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      11-04-2009, 02:46 PM   #45
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how come there are no pics of the dashboard/steering wheel?
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      11-04-2009, 02:49 PM   #46
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For those of you who would consider this for over $170,000 US, is it worth it? I can see maybe as a collector's / track use only item, perhaps...
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      11-04-2009, 02:49 PM   #47
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      11-04-2009, 02:53 PM   #48
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This is the motor that should have been in our cars originally. No one would be complaining about the torque any more.
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      11-04-2009, 03:00 PM   #49
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Supercharging brings out the GTS in your car! Jokes aside, I really think this is a nice car for the track junkie! Day to day, comfort and a nice interior still takes my worries away
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I'd only get the brakes for my car. And no A/C? Guess it'll be just a winter track car .

Curious about exact engine changes. When are we going to know?
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      11-04-2009, 03:02 PM   #51
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I'd only get the brakes for my car. And no A/C? Guess it'll be just a winter track car .

Curious about exact engine changes. When are we going to know?
Yup. Are they putting that engine in the regular M3 street car?
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      11-04-2009, 03:06 PM   #54
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Why the heck can't they at least put that engine in the 2010 M3's with the LCI????
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      11-04-2009, 03:07 PM   #55
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It weighs over 300 lbs more than a GT3.
Than the GT3 RS, which has no sound insulation. If you want an absolutely raw experience, that, or a Viper ACR are clearly the ticket. But to dismiss this car based on paper specs and declare it no match for a regular GT3 is incredibly premature. Porsche states the GT3 will do 7:40. Sport Auto tested a regular GT3 got exactly that. BMW states this car will also do 7:40. It should be a pretty close match.
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it s a car built for track use!
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      11-04-2009, 03:11 PM   #57
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While retaining the same 8500 rpm redline, it will have a much wider torque curve and produce more peak torque overall than the GT3 that will be much peaky in nature. That is the advantage M3 GTS has and it will also not be as strung out as the GT3 engine is since the GT3 really delivers most of its power above 6000 rpm. I am sure M3 GTS can get easily another 50 - 60 HP out to the tune of 500 - 510 HP.


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It weighs over 300 lbs more than a GT3. Only can match the GT3 RS' power with .6 liter more displacement. Its a great effort, no doubt, but still not the the level of a GT3/RS or 430 Scuderia. Youre saying this car will be faster than an f430 Scuderia which ran 7:39 on the ring, even though it weighs more and has much less hp??? Let alone be faster than a GT3/RS...give me a break.
It has the potential to be fast, but a 7:40 on the ring is still a ways off of the 7:33 the GT3 just ran. And wait until the GT3 gets PDK, it will be 7:20s.
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      11-04-2009, 03:13 PM   #58
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It weighs over 300 lbs more than a GT3. Only can match the GT3 RS' power with .6 liter more displacement. Its a great effort, no doubt, but still not the the level of a GT3/RS or 430 Scuderia. Youre saying this car will be faster than an f430 Scuderia which ran 7:39 on the ring, even though it weighs more and has much less hp??? Let alone be faster than a GT3/RS...give me a break.
It has the potential to be fast, but a 7:40 on the ring is still a ways off of the 7:33 the GT3 just ran. And wait until the GT3 gets PDK, it will be 7:20s.
you are definitely a porsche fan, also considering you claim to drive one as well. if ur saying the f430 scuderia ran a 7:39, please explain the 7:29 by the nissan gtr. the gtr weighs more than 1000lbs MORE than the scuderia!!! (or more than 35% heavier!) and has less power. the GT3 RS is a fantastic car no doubt, and im a big fan of porsche, particularly the new GT3 RS and 997.5 Turbo... but i think you're judging this GTS more than you rightfully can. you haven't even driven it, no one from the outside world has so there are no independent reports on how this GTS performs. please wait til the results are out. BMW is known to underrate their engines so im not surprised if it's actually got more than 450hp. also, if ppl judged the gtr by the numbers then they wouldn't be able to explain why the gtr is faster around the 'ring than a f430 scuderia, especially considering the huge weight difference and slight power difference.
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      11-04-2009, 03:17 PM   #60
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its a win...a huge step in the right direction for BMW
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Just trying to stay positive about this car. But with a GT3/RS as a competitor...dunno.
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      11-04-2009, 03:17 PM   #61
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haha fuck yea

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Can't wait for Top Gear to test this car...

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      11-04-2009, 03:18 PM   #63
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I'm not wanting to play down this engine but it's only matching what the RS5 will have and needing an extra 200cc to do it. South and myself have been discussing whether it's got DI as some reports state but if it does (which I doubt) then this is a seriously under performing engine because based on what I know a DI with it's displacement and peak revs would comfortably develop 490-500hp no sweat.
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Does it still rev to 8400? Still only making 25? I'm not sure I understand BMWs logic here, after ditching the CSL for the purpose of changing directions or w/e and the economy.. and then going and making the x5/6m, and now this. It seems doubtful we'll see this in America, too
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