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That's good to hear. I've really been looking at the AP Racing kit.
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Have you tried the AP kit with 18" wheels yet? Im a little suspicious about all these kits fitting easily with most 18" wheels.
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For the track I use a square set of factory 18x9.5" (rears) that fit fine with no spacers front or back. Basically, the wheel fitment guide (pdf file) on the Brake Pro's site is accurate. If it clears your wheels, the brakes will clear. |
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My 18x8.5" stock rims fit over the rear AP brakes without a spacer. You only need a spacer when you put that rim on the front. I have the same snow tire strategy as you do.
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Im starting to like this setup..
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The PF kit is something else. I would compare AP, Brembo, and Stoptech.
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Each caliper uses 4 pads on the PFC kit, which is unique from my knowledge.
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http://store.bimmerworld.com/shared/...t=products.asp Call James Clay owner of Bimmerworld, he drives in the speed world challenge. He is a down to earth guy and would more than happy to talk to about the PF system. Or shoot him an email. I put the PF systems right up their with Moton suspension. Top shelf sh*t. Not cheap, $8k 4-wheel kit. . Last edited by M3_WC; 10-21-2009 at 01:49 AM.. |
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By the way, AP Racing has been making calipers and discs for professional motorsports, OE and aftermarket customers for almost 40 years. It original parent (Automotive Products plc) had been manufacturing brake systems since sometime around 1918, I believe, with Mr. Malcolm Lougheed (later changing his name to Lockheed) and his initial development of automotive hydraulic brake systems. Just a point of reference. |
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Same kind of sh*t could said about PF. PF makes brakes for major race series. They have many many hard race laps and championships with their systems. AP Racing and Performance Friction are very good systems. Same could not be said for other piston-counters brake kits out there. |
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Cost is an issue if PFR front and rear is used. That is one of the reasons I chose AP. My install is tomorrow.
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Has anyone done a comparison of the long-term (4-5 years) operation costs of the APR, PF, Brembo, and StopTech systems--assuming regular track use? Obviously, lots of driver and usage related variables there, but this would be a relevant thing to consider.
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I know to replace the rotors and related hardware on the Brembo 380mm kits is around $1000 to $1200. My rotors on my E46 M3 lasted a long time, daily driven plus about 10 track days. My skills are not at the same levels as yours though Lucid.
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The OEM rotors lasted about 10 days for me, and they cost about $300 each. Is the $1k figure you quoted for the Brembos per wheel? (I assume so)
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With all due respect, I have known some of the people at PFC for around 20 years and respect them and the company. However, PFC has been making calipers for just a few years now. They started as a pad company, then got into iron discs and now begun with calipers. Their race calipers have definitely had some success in some arenas after significant challenges, but their street calipers were just released last year. Again, I'm not saying they are garbage by any means. But your statement implies that they have the same level of experience as AP and some others, which is clearly not the case. In the eyes of the market, they will need to earn their stripes just like everybody else has. And I wish them nothing but the best. Chris |
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I would have to check the email I got again, but I think that was for the front end. But I would have to dig up the email. On my 355mm Brembos, to replace the rotors and brackets it ran me around me around $950 shipped, fronts.
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