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      10-18-2009, 05:04 AM   #1
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How lucky we are...European M3 prices

Someone asked me recently how much the M3's run here in France...and coincidentally, BMW France just debuted a configuration-type option on their website. The out the door price for an E90 M3 sedan fully optioned is now around 92,000euros; or about US$137,000. I am pretty sure that reflects a significant increase in euro terms (never mind the dollar) from last year.

I'm attaching a nice PDF copy of the price for an E90 optioned as I bought mine (the DCT option could not be selected on the site, but the official price list shows it runs 4,200 euros (or around $6500). In comparison, my fully optioned US-spec car ran a shade over $60K (with every option, less the mil/diplomatic discount and about $3000 back from M3 for having misled me on what US-spec options worked here and which didn't--and of course, no taxes). If I converted the US price I paid to euros, I think I could buy a 325i here...but not well optioned. Kind of explains why these M cars are a rarity here.

On the plus side, as you can see on the official "tarifs" for the M3, French customers gets some extra option possibilities and the individual color options, which, while expensive, look nice.
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      10-18-2009, 06:43 AM   #2
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The price of being european, things cost pretty much double of USA price, and in terms of average wage, we earn less also!

going to configure my M3 later, with first drops of snow arriving, i wont be able to drive a M3 till March, guess 3-4 months order time, start of December sounds a good time.


thanks for the info, i wanted to have a decent idea of the expenses and extras before i went into the store, as my french is only basic/medium level great bit of info here!

glad you spotted the configure option on the site, i noticed most car companys dont have this and its good idea and useful source.

what sucks even more, if you want a 911 turbo you need 120k euro so then closer to 200,000 USD

then you got american cars that imported to europe and cost double the sticker price then in america and often 2 years old.

let the good times roll, and be a bit more aprecitive of your M3 because it is really that special of a car.

also 1 MILLLION MERCIS for the new discovery of the french configure function, we own 3 land rovers and hopefully will convert over to BMWs so theres a few more cars then the M3 that i need to configure
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      10-18-2009, 06:55 AM   #3
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The average price for a new rather loaded E90 M3 here in Holland is about 115,000 euros, for the E92 M3 about 120k euros. At my dealership in the showroom a few months ago: loaded E93 M3, 139,000 euros....

OMG how I love my country......
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      10-18-2009, 07:23 AM   #4
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The average price for a new rather loaded E90 M3 here in Holland is about 115,000 euros, for the E92 M3 about 120k euros. At my dealership in the showroom a few months ago: loaded E93 M3, 139,000 euros....

OMG how I love my country......
was it you who got a ticket for 104 in a 100km zone? that would never happen in france. you get a minimum of 10 percent over the limit before you get offical ticket.

some things just dont add up
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      10-18-2009, 07:28 AM   #5
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87k is my quote without knowing exact options so 92 sounds fair

just gotta wait it out till about december
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      10-18-2009, 08:40 AM   #6
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Don't they tax you European types pretty hard to pay for health care & other government run programs? Don't these taxes make up a large amount of the difference between US & European prices?
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      10-18-2009, 11:03 AM   #7
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      10-18-2009, 11:22 AM   #8
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I'm assuming it's because their euro to dollar conversion is greater? I spent sometime in the UK and couldn't stop converting the cost of living and salary from euro to dollar. It was nuts!
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      10-18-2009, 01:53 PM   #9
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i thought it comes down to population of america and the consumer rate/market.

either way you couldnt charge more then what they do for a M3 in america or they wouldnt sell any.

europe is quite strange on prices i found.
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      10-19-2009, 07:19 PM   #11
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The average price for a new rather loaded E90 M3 here in Holland is about 115,000 euros, for the E92 M3 about 120k euros. At my dealership in the showroom a few months ago: loaded E93 M3, 139,000 euros....

OMG how I love my country......
That's funny. They're going for mid sixties here, which is like 50k euros.
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Stop complaining.
You have like 3 times more vacation days than average US vacation times in business and fully paid amazing healthcare vs. our sucky 3rd party health insurance.


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Someone asked me recently how much the M3's run here in France...and coincidentally, BMW France just debuted a configuration-type option on their website. The out the door price for an E90 M3 sedan fully optioned is now around 92,000euros; or about US$137,000. I am pretty sure that reflects a significant increase in euro terms (never mind the dollar) from last year.

I'm attaching a nice PDF copy of the price for an E90 optioned as I bought mine (the DCT option could not be selected on the site, but the official price list shows it runs 4,200 euros (or around $6500). In comparison, my fully optioned US-spec car ran a shade over $60K (with every option, less the mil/diplomatic discount and about $3000 back from M3 for having misled me on what US-spec options worked here and which didn't--and of course, no taxes). If I converted the US price I paid to euros, I think I could buy a 325i here...but not well optioned. Kind of explains why these M cars are a rarity here.

On the plus side, as you can see on the official "tarifs" for the M3, French customers gets some extra option possibilities and the individual color options, which, while expensive, look nice.
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      10-19-2009, 07:50 PM   #13
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Stop complaining.
You can smoke pot while walking your dog on the street.
I can't even smoke my Carmel Light next to building entrance.

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The average price for a new rather loaded E90 M3 here in Holland is about 115,000 euros, for the E92 M3 about 120k euros. At my dealership in the showroom a few months ago: loaded E93 M3, 139,000 euros....

OMG how I love my country......
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      10-20-2009, 08:45 AM   #14
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Stop complaining.
You have like 3 times more vacation days than average US vacation times in business and fully paid amazing healthcare vs. our sucky 3rd party health insurance.
Perhaps you ought to read my posting before writing...you will see that I have nothing to complain about (nor did I do so) re the price of an M3 since I have a US-spec car here in Europe which I bought for less than most US-spec cars are sold in the US. What I explained in my posting was in fact to point out the difference in prices to show how lucky we are in the U.S. to be able to afford these cars. Complaining, how so?

As far as your OT points re vacation days and health care, don't believe everything you read or hear. To be sure, gov't workers or those in big companies in France may get several weeks off from their jobs a year (but so do federal employees), but if you work for yourself or in a smaller company, you don't take much time off here either. And pretty much everyone in France that can afford to do so, pays for a supplemental health insurance policy. And what you pay for other fixed costs here such as car insurance, utilities, etc in France partially offsets the cost of your health insurance.
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      10-20-2009, 10:08 AM   #15
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I'm assuming it's because their euro to dollar conversion is greater? I spent sometime in the UK and couldn't stop converting the cost of living and salary from euro to dollar. It was nuts!
Hence why you really can't just do a direct comparison..With Euro, Jpn and US prices..

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As far as your OT points re vacation days and health care, don't believe everything you read or hear. To be sure, gov't workers or those in big companies in France may get several weeks off from their jobs a year (but so do federal employees), but if you work for yourself or in a smaller company, you don't take much time off here either. And pretty much everyone in France that can afford to do so, pays for a supplemental health insurance policy. And what you pay for other fixed costs here such as car insurance, utilities, etc in France partially offsets the cost of your health insurance.
From what I see it's simple fix..Get a better job. More time off and no bitching about prices (yes i'm being sarcastic)

Even with your complaints (every country has dislikes) its still better than our ripoff health care insurance and auto insurance companies.

btw My wife is from Marseille. My french connection..
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