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      10-13-2009, 10:32 AM   #23
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TechArt's.

Maybe I am losing it, but I really like this.
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Still ugly on the outside. Inside looks good but that's a LOT of buttons
Agreed. Most cars grow on me, this hasnt one single bit.
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The one part of the design that I really do like is the interior. Very elegant yet sporty.
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That TechArt one looks sick, even from the rear!
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      10-13-2009, 01:56 PM   #27
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Weird. The rear shot is the best shot. IMO.

A Carrera white with that interior above. TechArt pkg with their black/silver wheels.

Formula I think is that model wheel above.
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are you kidding? the x6m is barely faster and yet has 150 more hp and its the worst looking car since the pontiac aztec...the panamera turbo 500 hp runs a high 11/low 12 IIRC, and no x5m or x6m is going to touch it. x5m and x6m cant touch even the panamera 4s in the handling and grip dept's. the 4s has grip and handling level the m5 cant even touch, not even the m3 sedan can match them.
They even said the panamera is the best 4 door sedan...and its not even the top of the line model.
And the quality and fit and finish is FAR and beyond any bmw.
Panamera Turbo just brings everything up another notch or two.
you must hate bmw too much. how the x6m is ugly as the aztec and the failnamera is good looking? failnamera is the ugliest/most hideous porsche ever...wait, ugliest luxury sedan ever made.
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you must hate bmw too much. how the x6m is ugly as the aztec and the failnamera is good looking? failnamera is the ugliest/most hideous porsche ever...wait, ugliest luxury sedan ever made.
+11!

damn what a post, how much did porsche pay you for this lol.

I saw one near my house a week ago, it's an ugly porsche imho, period. I also find it weird it says PORSCHE on it in huge letters ... as if you can't notice that ... it's like it is the ultimate steppingstone porsche for posers
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damn what a post, how much did porsche pay you for this lol.

I saw one near my house a week ago, it's an ugly porsche imho, period. I also find it weird it says PORSCHE on it in huge letters ... as if you can't notice that ... it's like it is the ultimate steppingstone porsche for posers





Stepping stone for posers??????????? I am guessing you are 19 or so.

Base price for the Panamera is $89,900.
That get's you 4 doors and an engine.
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Stepping stone for posers??????????? I am guessing you are 19 or so.

Base price for the Panamera is $89,900.
That get's you 4 doors and an engine.
Also gets you a starter home.
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What were those idiot designers thinking by putting their brand name on such poser models?
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nope, 7 series and x6 are bad from every angle, worst looking cars prob in car history. porsche only looks questionable from the rear, but everyone who has seen them in person says they are great looking.
x6 bad from every angle? Like this is better looking?
http://www.hellaswebnews.com/images/foroi/Cayene_1.jpeg or http://www.cbautoimports.ca/images/c..._cayene_v8.jpg. It looks exactly like a raised failnerama

than the x6 here.
http://www.bmw.com/com/en/newvehicle...erior_side.jpg
http://images.dealer.com/nctd/09-x6-hero.jpg

If you think the cayenne is better looking, you need to get your eyes check asap.

LOL. the beetle looks deadly similar to any porsche. j/k

I don't like the 7, but it is not ugly as you made it to be. just a plain and boring car for the older crowd, that's all. How can this be ugly?
http://www.bmw-syria.com/me_dl/sy_en...troduction.jpg

In fact, I think the 7 is better looking than the failnemara
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nope, 7 series and x6 are bad from every angle, worst looking cars prob in car history. porsche only looks questionable from the rear, but everyone who has seen them in person says they are great looking.
I think you're on crack. Or you simply lack the ability to include the term 'imo'.

I think the 7 series is an excellent design in terms of being elegant, understated, yet powerful.

I don't know anyone who thinks the Cayenne is "great looking but questionable from the rear". Nobody gives a shit about it, because the looks aren't out there nor are they ugly. It's just an angry looking fucker that can go fast. There's nothing polarizing about it.

Everyone I know thinks the X6 looks futuristic and unique. I think it's the best looking SUV on the market, but that's just me.
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Silver or white GTS is my pick if ever in that market.


The Pan is obviously not for everyone.

I like it because it IS different. The S63/65 are great cars but are a dime a dozen in my area. The Maz is a great looking and sounding car but over priced and has/had to many bugaboos. IMO.
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Everything is a personal opinion and not fact when it comes to looks. I don't think the X6 is the best looking SUV but it's neither the worst, the Panamera isn't the worst looking luxury car but it neither the prettiest. There is part of the Panamera that looks great and others not so much which I believe that's how most people see it.

It is one of the best handling luxury cars made, it's also one of the quickest and definitely is one of the most expensive and probably one of the best made if the rest of their products are anything to go by, these are all facts but the looks isn't a fact it's simply an opinion and everyone shouldn't get so up tight about his comments.

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I noticed shift@red made a comment on the 5series GT, I just for the laugh configed one of the BMW UK wedsite to the same spec as my XF, though it was only the 530d and not the same 535d that would have been the equivalent. Anyway my Jaguar came out at 45K were as the 530d GT totalled a huge 54K, 9K more expensive was even a shock to me.
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i just saw a silver one about 5 minutes ago. I'd hit it.
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I think this deems the X6-M useless. This is a 4 seater with a decent trunk and 4WD. We all know the ground clearance of the X6-M doesn't give it an advantage anywhere. No BMW road cars should be off the road, especially with those low profile tires and 20 inch wheels. Where the Panamera shines is in its package. It is basically the same price as the X6-M, but has MUCH less power yet performs similarly if not better in most of the tests. Sure, call it ugly, just like you guys call the GT-R ugly(At least I don't think it is lol). But this thing hauls ass even without twin turbos. The Panamera Turbo will be a beast. Now I'm not saying I don't like the X6-M, I would love one. But it seems as if Porsche came out with a sensible option.I believe this is basically what the X6-M would be if it were a car.
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I think this deems the X6-M useless. This is a 4 seater with a decent trunk and 4WD. We all know the ground clearance of the X6-M doesn't give it an advantage anywhere. No BMW road cars should be off the road, especially with those low profile tires and 20 inch wheels. Where the Panamera shines is in its package. It is basically the same price as the X6-M, but has MUCH less power yet performs similarly if not better in most of the tests. Sure, call it ugly, just like you guys call the GT-R ugly(At least I don't think it is lol). But this thing hauls ass even without twin turbos. The Panamera Turbo will be a beast. Now I'm not saying I don't like the X6-M, I would love one. But it seems as if Porsche came out with a sensible option.I believe this is basically what the X6-M would be if it were a car.
Are you forgetting that a lot of people buy into these cars simply for the increased driving position and better vantage point to see around.
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Are you forgetting that a lot of people buy into these cars simply for the increased driving position and better vantage point to see around.
I agree. And SUVs also have the advantage of not giving you a guilty feeling when you have to drive down an old dirt road with big water puddles, etc. They are also handy when you have to do light work on rental property and need to pack a shovel and a sapling in the cargo area and need to fold down the seats. Or when you need to jump a curb
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I agree. And SUVs also have the advantage of not giving you a guilty feeling when you have to drive down an old dirt road with big water puddles, etc. They are also handy when you have to do light work on rental property and need to pack a shovel and a sapling in the cargo area and need to fold down the seats. Or when you need to jump a curb
Well frankly I wouldn't be doing that with a 85K motor, SUV or not.
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i just saw a silver one about 5 minutes ago. I'd hit it.

Panamera here in Dallas? Rolling are in a showroom?
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