2010 EPA Hold

Kustjag · 10-09-2009, 12:54 PM

Hello all,

I am new to the forum and thank you all for the valuable info I have gleaned over the last few month of reading your posts.

I was supposed to pick up my freshly baked 2010 M3 coupe (space gray/fox red, DCT, 19inch, fully optioned) tomorrow from the dealer but it seems that all 2010s are still at the port and are not being released until certification by the EPA. They don't have any idea of when the car will be available for transportation from New Jersey at this point.

Has anyone had any experience with this in prior model years? Do you know how long this hold remains?

cheers,

R

mkoesel · 10-09-2009, 01:03 PM

I remember something similar happening when the 2008s first came out, I think. You might try a search, but I'm not sure if it will be easy to find the thread.

FWIW, some people have had their 2010 M3 delivered in the US already so this either doesn't effect all cars, is a recent development, or your dealership just made it up.

Mklapp · 10-09-2009, 01:45 PM

I'm having the same problem i have a AW 2010 M3 that has been sitting at the port now for a little over a week, my salesman told me that it could be a day a week or a month he doesnt know but he said they want to move these cars so shouldnt be to long. I live in florida and its at a port in GA i dont know why considering were one of the best places for boating and shipping but im hanging in here.. so anxious! good luck with getting your car hope you enjoy!

Kustjag · 10-09-2009, 02:04 PM

Hey,

Good luck with your car as well, loved the AW it was a tough decision between it and space gray for me.

As far as the hold it seems each car is being tested by EPA then released and not all cars are on hold, just that there is an extra step to go through which is delaying the release. Seemingly this occurs at the beginning of each model year to ensure the cars meet EPA standards...which are so low anyway i'm surprised they bother

JohnnyRoaster · 10-09-2009, 02:07 PM

Good luck to both of you. I hope your cars are released soon!

Kustjag · 10-09-2009, 02:16 PM

Thanks Johnny! I am excited to being behind the wheel of this monster! This is going to be different for me as well since it will be the smallest bmw, and probably the best driver experience car I've owned.

To date I've had a 2001 530i , 2005 645cic convertible (loved it), and the 2008 X5 4.8. Believe it or not the X5 was the best one to own over all for all the benefits I got out of one car (space, performance, and luxury). It will be interesting to drive a go-cart for a change

Brosef · 10-09-2009, 02:19 PM

I'm in the same boat as you, and it makes me want to strangle whomever is responsible.

Cabinetman · 10-09-2009, 02:26 PM

I hope they get this cleared up soon. My 2010 E90 should be getting unloaded today at the Brunswick port. I was hoping for a fairly quick trip through the VPC.

Kustjag · 10-09-2009, 03:03 PM

I know it is frustrating but just remember about the really cool new voice control system in the 2010's! I think that technology change was worth the wait over a 2009 in my opinion. The new system allows you to input addresses in one voice commands (ex. naturally say "1600 Pennsylvania avenue, washington, dc") instead of having to input state, city, street, number.

Moreover the new system will allow us to access music on our entertainment unit hard drive with the voice command (ex. just say "Guns and Roses, Patience")

10M3MAN · 10-09-2009, 03:13 PM

Wow, that would drive me up the wall... good luck and hopefully its out soon..

bigjae1976 · 10-09-2009, 03:15 PM

I didn't know the 2010's had those features.

GNR? That song is like 20+ years old now. I'm getting old

Kustjag · 10-09-2009, 03:19 PM

yes, all 2010's will have that feature...across all the model lines that use the new idrive system. And yes I grew up on GNR, feel very old!

ring007 · 10-09-2009, 08:39 PM

this EPA delay is holdin gup the '10 X5's as well.

aus · 10-09-2009, 11:01 PM

What's up with EPA picking on BMW???

This is how I got into an M3. I had a 135 delayed at the port after waiting months for it. The sale guys said they're giving GREAT lease deals and there was a car I was happy with. At that time, all the BMW's with the N54 were held up.

Hans Delbruck · 10-09-2009, 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brosef

it makes me want to strangle whomever is responsible.

The US GOVMENT, making busy work, being inefficient, spending your money!

Agnostic · 10-10-2009, 12:18 PM

Present and accounted for. Mine reached port of Charleston 9/24. Told it's waiting for me at the Performance Center. But...I can't have it. My tax dollars at work for me!

dolby · 10-10-2009, 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Agnostic

Present and accounted for. Mine reached port of Charleston 9/24. Told it's waiting for me at the Performance Center. But...I can't have it. My tax dollars at work for me!

Another //M in Charlotte. Welcome! Good luck on getting them to release it.

Dolby

Echo M3 · 10-10-2009, 12:35 PM

Does anyone know if this EPA holdup is pre or post -VPC?

If it's pre-VPC, then that means we're looking at another 1-2 weeks AFTER our cars are released. This is so frustrating - my car reached the port more than a week ago, and so far I have received no information from my CA or BMWNA regarding the holdup.

ihyln · 10-10-2009, 02:22 PM

VPC is fairly quick. Mine was there for only 5 days and I've heard as little as 2. I think and it all depends how swamped they might be.

cpiguy · 10-10-2009, 03:17 PM

My car arrived at Port Hueneme on Tuesday afternoon and was invoiced released to shipping yesterday afternoon. Accoring to my dealer, it should arrive today or Monday.

I guess we'll see.

JohnyRangr · 10-10-2009, 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cpiguy

My car arrived at Port Hueneme on Tuesday afternoon and was invoiced released to shipping yesterday afternoon. Accoring to my dealer, it should arrive today or Monday.

I guess we'll see.

LIEZ!

Moxie · 10-10-2009, 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kustjag

I know it is frustrating but just remember about the really cool new voice control system in the 2010's! I think that technology change was worth the wait over a 2009 in my opinion. The new system allows you to input addresses in one voice commands (ex. naturally say "1600 Pennsylvania avenue, washington, dc") instead of having to input state, city, street, number.

Moreover the new system will allow us to access music on our entertainment unit hard drive with the voice command (ex. just say "Guns and Roses, Patience")

I don't think the voice recognition works quite like that. For inputting you still tell it the Zip or City, then spell the street and tell it the number address, start guidance. After you have it saved in your address book, all you have to say is White House and it we take you there. I had mine for a couple weeks and just got around to trying it out. I spent most of the afternoon downloading music to the 12GB hard drive, got the low charging warning light & quit. I can watch DVD's while standing still. In my 08 335, DVD's didn't work. Is this a new option?

10-09-2009, 12:54 PM	#1
Kustjag New Member Drives: 2010 E92 BMW M3 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, VA Posts: 10 iTrader: (0)	2010 EPA Hold Hello all, I am new to the forum and thank you all for the valuable info I have gleaned over the last few month of reading your posts. I was supposed to pick up my freshly baked 2010 M3 coupe (space gray/fox red, DCT, 19inch, fully optioned) tomorrow from the dealer but it seems that all 2010s are still at the port and are not being released until certification by the EPA. They don't have any idea of when the car will be available for transportation from New Jersey at this point. Has anyone had any experience with this in prior model years? Do you know how long this hold remains? cheers, R
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10-09-2009, 01:03 PM	#2
mkoesel Moderator Drives: IB/PS M-DCT E93 M3 Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Canton, MI Posts: 11,784 iTrader: (1)	I remember something similar happening when the 2008s first came out, I think. You might try a search, but I'm not sure if it will be easy to find the thread. FWIW, some people have had their 2010 M3 delivered in the US already so this either doesn't effect all cars, is a recent development, or your dealership just made it up. __________________ 2008 Interlagos Blue E93 M3 - M-DCT 2011 Salsa Red Jetta TDI Sportwagen - DSG

10-09-2009, 01:45 PM	#3
Mklapp New Member Drives: 2010 AW M3 DCT Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Jupiter, Florida Posts: 14 iTrader: (0)	I'm having the same problem i have a AW 2010 M3 that has been sitting at the port now for a little over a week, my salesman told me that it could be a day a week or a month he doesnt know but he said they want to move these cars so shouldnt be to long. I live in florida and its at a port in GA i dont know why considering were one of the best places for boating and shipping but im hanging in here.. so anxious! good luck with getting your car hope you enjoy! __________________ 2010 M3 AW DCT!!

10-09-2009, 02:07 PM	#5
JohnnyRoaster Captain Drives: 09 Jerez Black M3 Sedan Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Outside Beantown Posts: 940 iTrader: (0)	Good luck to both of you. I hope your cars are released soon! __________________

10-09-2009, 03:15 PM	#11
bigjae1976 Brigadier General Drives: 04 330Ci, 11 E90 M3 Individual Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 4,145 iTrader: (8)	I didn't know the 2010's had those features. GNR? That song is like 20+ years old now. I'm getting old __________________ Sponsored by Momentum BMW #593...We Bleed BMW BLUE!

10-09-2009, 02:04 PM	#4
Kustjag New Member Drives: 2010 E92 BMW M3 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, VA Posts: 10 iTrader: (0)	Hey, Good luck with your car as well, loved the AW it was a tough decision between it and space gray for me. As far as the hold it seems each car is being tested by EPA then released and not all cars are on hold, just that there is an extra step to go through which is delaying the release. Seemingly this occurs at the beginning of each model year to ensure the cars meet EPA standards...which are so low anyway i'm surprised they bother

10-09-2009, 02:16 PM	#6
Kustjag New Member Drives: 2010 E92 BMW M3 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, VA Posts: 10 iTrader: (0)	Thanks Johnny! I am excited to being behind the wheel of this monster! This is going to be different for me as well since it will be the smallest bmw, and probably the best driver experience car I've owned. To date I've had a 2001 530i , 2005 645cic convertible (loved it), and the 2008 X5 4.8. Believe it or not the X5 was the best one to own over all for all the benefits I got out of one car (space, performance, and luxury). It will be interesting to drive a go-cart for a change

10-09-2009, 02:19 PM	#7
Brosef Lieutenant Colonel Drives: 2011 M Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Chicago Posts: 1,517 iTrader: (3)	I'm in the same boat as you, and it makes me want to strangle whomever is responsible.

10-09-2009, 02:26 PM	#8
Cabinetman Lieutenant Drives: 2012 IS-F Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Keller, TX Posts: 432 iTrader: (0)	I hope they get this cleared up soon. My 2010 E90 should be getting unloaded today at the Brunswick port. I was hoping for a fairly quick trip through the VPC.

10-09-2009, 03:03 PM	#9
Kustjag New Member Drives: 2010 E92 BMW M3 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, VA Posts: 10 iTrader: (0)	I know it is frustrating but just remember about the really cool new voice control system in the 2010's! I think that technology change was worth the wait over a 2009 in my opinion. The new system allows you to input addresses in one voice commands (ex. naturally say "1600 Pennsylvania avenue, washington, dc") instead of having to input state, city, street, number. Moreover the new system will allow us to access music on our entertainment unit hard drive with the voice command (ex. just say "Guns and Roses, Patience")

10-09-2009, 03:13 PM	#10
10M3MAN Lieutenant Colonel Drives: 2006 Nissan Altima SER Join Date: May 2009 Location: Wharton, TX Posts: 1,502 iTrader: (0)	Wow, that would drive me up the wall... good luck and hopefully its out soon..

10-09-2009, 03:19 PM	#12
Kustjag New Member Drives: 2010 E92 BMW M3 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, VA Posts: 10 iTrader: (0)	yes, all 2010's will have that feature...across all the model lines that use the new idrive system. And yes I grew up on GNR, feel very old!

10-09-2009, 08:39 PM	#13
ring007 Major Drives: '10 GT3RS & '13 Cayenne GTS Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: ///Iowa Posts: 1,031 iTrader: (13)	this EPA delay is holdin gup the '10 X5's as well.

10-09-2009, 11:01 PM	#14
aus Major General Drives: M3 Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Seal Beach, CA Posts: 6,221 iTrader: (5)	What's up with EPA picking on BMW??? This is how I got into an M3. I had a 135 delayed at the port after waiting months for it. The sale guys said they're giving GREAT lease deals and there was a car I was happy with. At that time, all the BMW's with the N54 were held up. __________________ Let me get this straight... You are swapping out parts designed by some of the top engineers in the world because some guys sponsored by a company told you it's "better??" But when you ask the same guy about tracking, "oh no, I have a kid now" or "I just detailed my car." or "i just got new tires."

10-10-2009, 12:18 PM	#16
Agnostic New Member Drives: 2010 M3 E92 Jet/Fox DCT, 19" Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: charlotte nc Posts: 15 iTrader: (0)	Present and accounted for. Mine reached port of Charleston 9/24. Told it's waiting for me at the Performance Center. But...I can't have it. My tax dollars at work for me!

10-10-2009, 12:35 PM	#18
Echo M3 Major Drives: E90 M3 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: NY Posts: 1,413 iTrader: (0)	EPA Timeline Does anyone know if this EPA holdup is pre or post -VPC? If it's pre-VPC, then that means we're looking at another 1-2 weeks AFTER our cars are released. This is so frustrating - my car reached the port more than a week ago, and so far I have received no information from my CA or BMWNA regarding the holdup.

10-10-2009, 02:22 PM	#19
ihyln Banned Drives: M3post sucks Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: M3post sucks Posts: 3,386 iTrader: (1) Garage List 2008 M3 [0.00] 2002 530i [0.00]	VPC is fairly quick. Mine was there for only 5 days and I've heard as little as 2. I think and it all depends how swamped they might be.

10-10-2009, 03:17 PM	#20
cpiguy Lieutenant Drives: 2010 M3 & 2011 458 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Westlake Village, CA Posts: 562 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2011 Ferrari 458 It ... [1.83] 2013 BMW M5 [0.00] 2010 BMW M3 [0.00] 2010 BMW X5 3.5D [0.00]	My car arrived at Port Hueneme on Tuesday afternoon and was invoiced released to shipping yesterday afternoon. Accoring to my dealer, it should arrive today or Monday. I guess we'll see. __________________ CPIGUY 2010 M3 Coupe, 2010 X5 35D 2011 458 Italia, 2013 M5

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