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      10-09-2009, 05:00 PM   #23
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Incorrect answer, all-seasons do NOT work as well once the temp drops below about 40F or about 5C. This is a known fact and back up links can be provided if needed.
Oh come on! All-season tires are the ultimate compromise tire - they are supposed to provide decent performance in all conditions. Of course they won't work as well in the cold as a dedicated winter tire! No one ever said they would, not even me. The post I responded to lumped them in with summer tires as far as cold-weather performance, which is clearly incorrect.

All-season tires work in near-freezing conditions. Summer tires do not. My answer was correct. It's unclear to me what you think you are trying to prove.
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      10-09-2009, 08:28 PM   #24
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Oh come on! All-season tires are the ultimate compromise tire - they are supposed to provide decent performance in all conditions. Of course they won't work as well in the cold as a dedicated winter tire! No one ever said they would, not even me. The post I responded to lumped them in with summer tires as far as cold-weather performance, which is clearly incorrect.

All-season tires work in near-freezing conditions. Summer tires do not. My answer was correct. It's unclear to me what you think you are trying to prove.
Not trying to prove anything, no need to be so testy....

All-seasons do not work as well as winters in temps below about 40F. They do work much better than summer tires, agreed. All-seasons are really three-seasons, unless your winters are very mild (warm) with little to no snow/ice. Them's the facts, like it or not.
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      10-09-2009, 10:45 PM   #25
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winter tires is a must. esp since the m3s dont even come with all seasons from the factory. summer rated ps2s are very bad in winter or cold weather conditions.

i have a set of sottozeros for winter.
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