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Democracy! FuCk YEAAAA!!! 3 16.67%
Republic! FuCk YEAAAA!!! 15 83.33%
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      09-10-2009, 12:40 AM   #1
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America is NOT a democracy

but a Republic...

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democracy = 51% deciding the fate of 49%. That doesnt sound fair to me. Go republic!
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call me crazy.....but do you guys think the US is facist in someway?
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democracy = 51% deciding the fate of 49%. That doesnt sound fair to me. Go republic!
So what you are saying is that the popular vote isn't a good way to decide things?
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America was founded as a constitutional republic. It was never intended to be a democracy, yet in some ways it has devolved into a democracy.
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I just started watching your video. I like it. Reminds me very much of The 5,000 Year Leap.
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So what you are saying is that the popular vote isn't a good way to decide things?
Popular vote a good thing? Are you kidding? The popular vote has included things like witch burning and the like. The population of american is probably the most uninformed in the civilized world. How many people were pushed into the voting lines to vote just because obama was black? Im sure that many many voters had no idea about the differences in policies between the candidates or even knew who the other candidates were.

I cant imagine how 51% deciding for 49% is a good thing. What if those 51% are completely wrong? America was never meant to be a democracy. A few deciding whats best for everyone else is exactly what the founding fathers were trying to run away from.
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Popular vote a good thing? Are you kidding? The popular vote has included things like witch burning and the like. The population of american is probably the most uninformed in the civilized world. How many people were pushed into the voting lines to vote just because obama was black? Im sure that many many voters had no idea about the differences in policies between the candidates or even knew who the other candidates were.

I cant imagine how 51% deciding for 49% is a good thing. What if those 51% are completely wrong? America was never meant to be a democracy. A few deciding whats best for everyone else is exactly what the founding fathers were trying to run away from.
This is crazy. You say the founding fathers didn't want a few deciding what's best for everyone, but everyone having a say is no good either? What are you proposing?
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This is crazy. You say the founding fathers didn't want a few deciding what's best for everyone, but everyone having a say is no good either? What are you proposing?
Im proposing a constitutional republic. Not a democracy, or socialism, or fascism, or communism.
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Im proposing a constitutional republic. Not a democracy, or socialism, or fascism, or communism.
Buy in a constitutional republic you still have people voting, and thus majority rules.
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The distinction between a Democracy and a Republic is a funny one since both require involvement from the electorate to vote for its representatives. Yet the only way to determine who will represent the people comes from the majority. There is no way around it.

A republic was created to prevent the majority from suppressing the minority. Yet if elected officials are chosen by the majority who thus create a consititution...was a republic really created in the first place?

I guess you can go about it by having the people directly frame a consitution, but how logical is that in a country of over 300 million people?
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