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      08-29-2009, 02:02 PM   #1
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Question My 2008 e92 M3 – CA Lemon?

What do you guys think? I have had the following issue with my 2008 e92 M3 - DCT.
Purchased: October 30, 2008

Repair Incidents:

1. December 15th 2009 – 1 day at dealership. I took the vehicle in for “Trans Range N Error”.
The dealership “found parking lock fault. Test plan checked parking lock and states lock is functioning correctly. Cleared fault and test drove vehicle”.

2. December 23rd 2009 – 1 day at dealership. I took the vehicle in for same “Trans Range N Error”. The dealership “read the fault memory” and “found same parking lock fault”.

3. February 5th 2009 – 27 days at dealership (vehicle returned March 3rd 2009). I took the vehicle in for same “Trans Range N Error”, “Stability control disabled” warning and “Engine Malfunction warning/reduced power”. The dealership “removed and reinstall idle air actuator” and replaced “faulty idle air hose deteriorating”.

4. March 31st 2009 – 2 days at dealership (vehicle returned April 2nd 2009). I took in the vehicle for the same “Trans Range N Error”. The dealership replaced “faulty gear selector switch. Verified fault…”

A couple of weeks ago, I received an “Increased Emissions” error followed by an “Engine Malfunction/Reduced power” error. The good thing is that when the vehicle reduced the power this time and back in February, I was coming up on my freeway exit. I took in the vehicle to a completely different dealership on August 21st 2009 and they didn’t find anything. The 4 incidents above were all at the same dealership, so they know the issue when they see me come in

Two days ago, the “Trans Range N Error” came back. Now, I’m pretty patient and not one to make a big deal about things. But I feel that this unresolved issue has gone on too long. What do you guys think? BMWM.D.? Anyone else have this many issues?





From http://www.ag.ca.gov/consumers/general/lemon.php
(1) The same problem results in a condition that is likely to cause death or serious bodily injury if the vehicle is driven [reduced power in freeway apply?] and the problem has been subject to repair two or more times by the manufacturer or its agents, and the buyer or lessee has at least once directly notified the manufacturer of the need for the repair of the problem as provided in the warranty or owner's manual or
(2) The same problem has been subject to repair four or more times by the manufacturer or its agents and the buyer has at least once directly notified the manufacturer of the need for the repair of the problem as provided in the warranty or owner's manual or
(3) The vehicle is out of service because of the repair of any number of problems by the manufacturer or its agents for a cumulative total of more than 30 days since delivery of the vehicle.

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      08-29-2009, 05:11 PM   #2
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      08-29-2009, 05:25 PM   #3
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Out of the 14 new vehichles I've owned in my lifetime, I had to excersise the CA lemon law once. It took 5 months and many phone calls and emails. My best advice is do NOT ever be rude of even frustrated to the people you are dealing with. You're gonna get real familiar with 'patience'! This situation definately seems like it would qualify. Don't go after the 'dangerous' defect arguement, that is very difficult to prove. Just the sheer number of visits and the number of days spent in the shop seems like it would make it a slam dunk. If you are serious about persuing this you can PM me and I can dig out my emails to Toyota Motor Co. with my Tundra 5.7L buy back.
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My best advice is do NOT ever be rude of even frustrated to the people you are dealing with. You're gonna get real familiar with 'patience'!
I absolutely agree. Each time I have gone to the dealership I have been pretty mellow about the whole situation. Plus building a good relationship with a SA makes things easier anytime I need something.
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i had kind of the same thing going on with my m3 ... now she is a history ...
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lemon!
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LEMON! pm me for a lawyer rec if you want one, but i was able to get my buy back very easy. No Lawyer needed.
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Lawyer up, BMW NA will not help you
Yeah, I'm leaning towards getting a lawyer. I'm pretty much gone all day (7am ~ 7pm) and don't see how I can make a lot of progress myself.

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