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      06-09-2009, 07:30 PM   #67
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      06-09-2009, 07:37 PM   #68
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As I said before, it's "chrome" paint.

As a research scientist in the coatings industry, I can guarantee that Alsa corp can paint it and make it indistinguishable from chrome.

Here's a slideshow showing the patented Alsa system on Dereiter's website, along with a chrome sportbike.

http://www.dereiterracing.com/news/id-61.html

Alsa corp uses a brilliant technology, just look at the Gallardo they "chromed" and look on YouTube for more examples of their work.

I don't work for them, but from one chemist to another I highly respect them and their technology.

And the patent for those interested:
http://www.google.com/patents/about?...BAJ&dq=4975305 Relatively simple for those who paid attention in highschool or college chemistry. Precipitation of silver nitrate onto a substrate and then subsequently clearcoated. The silver nitrate precipation was how they use to make mirrors, or how they mirror the inside of vases, christmas ornaments, etc. The trick was getting it to adhere to the outside of a surface and then protect it. If done properly, it's gonna be a mirror finish.
Good info, thanks. I do see a huge contradiction here though. Precipitation is plating not painting. It may not be the common electroplating but it is a form of plating. Painting is done with brush or nozzle and pressurized gas using a liquid paint (well that's my working definition at least)
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      06-09-2009, 07:39 PM   #69
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      06-09-2009, 07:56 PM   #70
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Good info, thanks. I do see a huge contradiction here though. Precipitation is plating not painting. It may not be the common electroplating but it is a form of plating. Painting is done with brush or nozzle and pressurized gas using a liquid paint (well that's my working definition at least)
They do pressurize it, they use a 3 or 4 stage setup. They generally spray the silver nitrate containing solution onto the part until it literally runs off. Then they spray on the solution that leads to the precipation, and you can watch the silver literally "appear" as you spray the second component.

Plating implies an electrochemical process or vacuum deposition. Painting can be applied in dozens of different ways; dip coating, flow coating, roll coating, spin coating, knife coating, electrodeposition, spray coating (HVLP, airless, air-assisted airless, conventional), powder coating, etc...

The Alsa Corp process is 4 step process as I understand the patent. Apply a basecoat of paint, the silver nitrate then reactant solution, clear topcoat. Finding the right basecoat that will accept the precipitant and clearcoat that doesn't lead to wrinkling/orange peel are the key to their system.

There are some interesting vids on their website showing the application:
http://www.alsacorp.com/products/chr...mefx_video.htm
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      06-09-2009, 08:00 PM   #71
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They do pressurize it, they use a 3 or 4 stage setup. They generally spray the silver nitrate containing solution onto the part until it literally runs off. Then they spray on the solution that leads to the precipation, and you can watch the silver literally "appear" as you spray the second component.
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Cool, thanks for the clarification!

Can I ask you some technical questions on anodizing by PM?
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      06-09-2009, 08:11 PM   #72
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      06-09-2009, 09:11 PM   #74
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      06-09-2009, 09:59 PM   #75
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      06-09-2009, 10:27 PM   #77
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      06-09-2009, 10:32 PM   #78
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i think it looks pretty cool, but they need a more metallic, silver window tint
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      06-09-2009, 10:46 PM   #79
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      06-09-2009, 11:05 PM   #80
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      06-09-2009, 11:16 PM   #82
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      06-09-2009, 11:34 PM   #83
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      06-10-2009, 12:34 AM   #85
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Reminds me of the terminator..
+1 exactly what I thought first time I saw this. BELONGS TO THE TERMINATOR SERIES... Now how much does that cost? Anyone notice an American flag flying on the door of the shop? WTF is up with that? I thought this is in Russia?
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      06-10-2009, 12:36 AM   #86
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      06-10-2009, 01:03 AM   #87
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+1, but full marks for effort.

Russia seems to be the new up-and-coming for nouveau riche... lots of crazy wealth over there at present.

They lost 60 out of 87 of there billionars over there this year.
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      06-10-2009, 01:35 AM   #88
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Not bad. I think it would look better with more black accents... Kidneys, wheels, tinted or smoked tails...
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