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      06-08-2009, 05:25 PM   #67
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Hmmm...there's a little less rumble in the very low rpm range, but it still sounds like a V-8 after 2k and really screams towards redline. I need mufflers though; I'm think Remus Sport to keep it fairly mellow and stock looking. I took a couple of videos this weekend (disclaimer: wife was operating it...she's not the best photographer). Shoot me your e-mail and I'll send them to you.
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      06-08-2009, 05:41 PM   #68
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Changing the stock X-Pipe to the Fabspeed setup with high flow cats results in dramatically healthier tone. Deeper. Louder. Less muffled. All with stock mufflers.

I then added the Eisenmannm Sport and it hits in you in the chest with tone.

It is crazy talk to think swapping stock X for this upgrade lessens rumble.
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Changing the stock X-Pipe to the Fabspeed setup with high flow cats results in dramatically healthier tone. Deeper. Louder. Less muffled. All with stock mufflers.

I then added the Eisenmannm Sport and it hits in you in the chest with tone.

It is crazy talk to think swapping stock X for this upgrade lessens rumble.
Thank you. I needed the reassurance that it was, in fact, crazy talk. I'm getting cabin fever just sitting around thinking about it. Thanks for splashing water on my face
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      06-08-2009, 05:54 PM   #70
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Changing the stock X-Pipe to the Fabspeed setup with high flow cats results in dramatically healthier tone. Deeper. Louder. Less muffled. All with stock mufflers.

I then added the Eisenmannm Sport and it hits in you in the chest with tone.

It is crazy talk to think swapping stock X for this upgrade lessens rumble.
Crazy talk is thinking that your setup sounds the same as mine. I have no resonators and stock primary cats....signicantly deeper?? I think not .
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I replaced my primaries with the high flow. Trust me, it is much deeper. My car sounded like "X" when it arrived at Fabspeed. When I picked it up with the high flow cats, X-Pipe and resonators, it was way deeper. Like "2X". Jeremy even revved it and pointed out just how much louder it was. The stock primary cats are a big restriction. Anything you remove from the stock setup will increase volume. Some things more than other things.

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Crazy talk is thinking that your setup sounds the same as mine. I have no resonators and stock primary cats....signicantly deeper?? I think not .
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      06-08-2009, 07:57 PM   #72
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hmmm... I'm wondering if they're ever gonna get mine shipped out to me??? I keep getting told every day it's going out and I'll get a tracking number, but I've yet to get one as promised again today Been almost two weeks of this now.

Hopefully it gets here ASAP so I can post up some nice vids for them
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The 360 Forged of exhaust accessories?
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      06-09-2009, 08:36 AM   #74
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J08M3--You should have your performance package today as it's currently on the vehicle for delivery in Commack, NY.

I am posting all of the videos I have to date regarding various exhaust setups on the E92 so you have a better understanding of what components sound like when combined with Fabspeed's X-Pipe and High flow Sportcats:

Fabspeed 2ndary Catbypass "X-Pipe" with Stock Muffler>+16HP/9ft-lbs tq

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Fabspeed 2ndary Catbypass "X-Pipe" with Remus Race>+10HP/13ft-lbs tq


Fabspeed 2ndary Catbypass "X-Pipe" with Resonators and 200 cell High-flow Primary Sportcats, ECU Upgrade with Stock Muffler>32HP/17ft-lbs tq

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Fabspeed 2ndary Catbypass "X-Pipe" with Resonators and 200 cell High-flow Primary Sportcats with Eisenmann Race>22HP/16ft-lbs tq
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      06-09-2009, 08:37 AM   #75
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Nice, can't wait... I'm gonna install it tomorrow or thursday then.
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i want to get the same thing done as the space grey e90 dogears car i think...the only thing that bothers me is warranty issues are their any?
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      06-09-2009, 09:44 AM   #77
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The 360 Forged of exhaust accessories?
Not even close, Fabspeed is a standup seller and they make top quality products.
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Not even close, Fabspeed is a standup seller and they make top quality products.
Yea, I have to step back in and say they have been very cool to deal with. Wasn't meaning to post up anything negative before about the two weeks. Just was getting a little frustrating on this end since I have someone installing a bunch of stuff for me and trying to hold a schedule with the rest of their appointments.

I will be posting up some third party independent pics as soon as it arrives to me so you guys can check the quality for yourselves.
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Just received mine

Looks really well built. I'm very impressed with the quality so far.
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J08M3,

You're going to pair this with the eisenman sport?
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J08M3--You should have your performance package today as it's currently on the vehicle for delivery in Commack, NY.

I am posting all of the videos I have to date regarding various exhaust setups on the E92 so you have a better understanding of what components sound like when combined with Fabspeed's X-Pipe and High flow Sportcats:

Fabspeed 2ndary Catbypass "X-Pipe" with Stock Muffler>+16HP/9ft-lbs tq

DYNO CHART

Fabspeed 2ndary Catbypass "X-Pipe" with Remus Race>+10HP/13ft-lbs tq


Fabspeed 2ndary Catbypass "X-Pipe" with Resonators and 200 cell High-flow Primary Sportcats, ECU Upgrade with Stock Muffler>32HP/17ft-lbs tq

DYNO CHART

Fabspeed 2ndary Catbypass "X-Pipe" with Resonators and 200 cell High-flow Primary Sportcats with Eisenmann Race>22HP/16ft-lbs tq
Am I reading this correctly that the stock muffler made more HP than the Remus Race exhaust? That is surprising if true.
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Am I reading this correctly that the stock muffler made more HP than the Remus Race exhaust? That is surprising if true.
You probably gain less with the x-pipe if you've already put free-flowing mufflers on the car. Unfortunately power increases from different parts are not cumulative.
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Ordered mine today as well. Just the X pipe with no resonators and stock exhaust.
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Ordered mine today as well. Just the X pipe with no resonators and stock exhaust.
Great bang-for-the-buck....also sounds very exotic and unique .
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Great bang-for-the-buck....also sounds very exotic and unique .
I'm hoping so!
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J08M3,

You're going to pair this with the eisenman sport?
nope Eisenmann sport is for sale (preferably for trade with Eisenmann Race ) For now it's going on to AA mufflers.

At first I wanted this car quiet, but now I miss having one that screams
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You probably gain less with the x-pipe if you've already put free-flowing mufflers on the car. Unfortunately power increases from different parts are not cumulative.
I understand that but I read this to mean gains over stock with each scenario. Not additional with just the X-pipe but maybe that explains this.
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Damn this forum and this thread...lol. Another $2500 is going to bite the dust shortly. Thanks for the pics J08.

I was very surprised at how tame the sound output was on the Eisenmann Race. My Eisenmann Race is being installed this week, and have been told to expect a loud exhaust that will shake the neighbors' windows. I had thought that with the Xpipe it would have been super loud. Pleasantly surprised by what the video showed.
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