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      05-25-2009, 06:43 PM   #1
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M3(DCT) vs Carrera S(PDK)......finally!!!!



FYI, the M3 coupe was modded with Hartge exhaust , kelleners ecu...
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      05-25-2009, 09:48 PM   #2
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      05-25-2009, 11:00 PM   #3
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Well, that should put a lot of arguments to rest.
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      05-25-2009, 11:52 PM   #4
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Sorry, quite old news/comparison...
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Nothing I didn't expect.

The 911 S weighs 500 lbs less and is pushing more torque than the M3 coupe.
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Did anyone notice any jerk from the camera during the Porsche's gear shifts?

.........No.

Exactly, I have driven the new PDK and compared to the M3 I can't feel the jerk at all, just buttery smooth shifts with maximum effect.

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If anyone expected a different result from this they were away with the fairies. The new 997 is incredibly quick (996 turbo quick), imagine what it would do to a stock M3 in either form.
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      05-26-2009, 12:18 PM   #7
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The M3 DCT is barely, and I mean barely faster than the OLD Porsche 911S in a straight line.
The M3 DCT traps around 113 mph stock, the old C2S did 112+.
The regular Carrera with PDK out accelerated the M3 DCT in a recent Car and Driver road test.

It's no surprise the more powerful Carrera S would put a few car lengths on it.

That Kelleners tune for the M3 must suck though, doesn't seem like it did anything to even keep the M3 close to the P-car.

Looks like the C2S might trap in the 116+ mph range stock. Quick car, lovely car, but over $100k decently equipped now is insane.

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Sorry, quite old news/comparison...
Officially official ....PDK is damn quick....I wish I could see a video of a normal Carrera 2 with PDK against M3 DCT
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Officially official ....PDK is damn quick....I wish I could see a video of a normal Carrera 2 with PDK against M3 DCT
If both are stock then I would guess the distance you see here between the C2S with PDK and the tuned M3 with DCT would be a good example of how that race would go.

It's just a shame those awful buttons are standard.
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      05-26-2009, 06:15 PM   #10
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Holy shxx Batman, Gustav created a video of a Porsche beating a BMW, say it's not so!
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The M3 DCT is barely, and I mean barely faster than the OLD Porsche 911S in a straight line.
The M3 DCT traps around 113 mph stock, the old C2S did 112+.
The regular Carrera with PDK out accelerated the M3 DCT in a recent Car and Driver road test.

It's no surprise the more powerful Carrera S would put a few car lengths on it.

That Kelleners tune for the M3 must suck though, doesn't seem like it did anything to even keep the M3 close to the P-car.

Looks like the C2S might trap in the 116+ mph range stock. Quick car, lovely car, but over $100k decently equipped now is insane.
That 911 C2S PDK is very quick, it's beaten heaps of other higher powered cars...IIRC the M5 touring with 507HP only beat it by a couple of car lengths...

That same modified M3 DCT beat C63 so I don't think the tune sucks...
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      05-27-2009, 01:33 PM   #12
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Exactly, I have driven the new PDK and compared to the M3 I can't feel the jerk at all, just buttery smooth shifts with maximum effect.
Yeah, but you're gonna miss the DCT low speed hesitation.
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      05-28-2009, 04:45 PM   #13
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Have they run a stock M3 DCT vs a stock C63 AMG?
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      05-28-2009, 07:47 PM   #14
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The new 911s with PDK is the car I would upgrade to next after the M3.

I absolutely LOVE that car both performance and looks and it has back seats that I need for the baby seat...
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If both are stock then I would guess the distance you see here between the C2S with PDK and the tuned M3 with DCT would be a good example of how that race would go.

It's just a shame those awful buttons are standard.
I dunno man. Some tunes just mess it up for you. Maybe this DCT wasnt running properly.
Anyway, it's guaranteed that PDK is damn quick with a added bonus of being smooth .

About the buttons, check this out. Apparently Gemballa is offering to replace those "buttons'' with F1 type paddle shifters. If I ever get the money to buy a PDK equipped Carrera, I think this is a must mod for me.




Those buttons for gears are now replaced with buttons for horns
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I dunno man. Some tunes just mess it up for you. Maybe this DCT wasnt running properly.
Anyway, it's guaranteed that PDK is damn quick with a added bonus of being smooth .

About the buttons, check this out. Apparently Gemballa is offering to replace those "buttons'' with F1 type paddle shifters. If I ever get the money to buy a PDK equipped Carrera, I think this is a must mod for me.




Those buttons for gears are now replaced with buttons for horns
Thank God they don't make you buy it in poxy tuners red.
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I dunno man. Some tunes just mess it up for you. Maybe this DCT wasnt running properly.
Anyway, it's guaranteed that PDK is damn quick with a added bonus of being smooth .

About the buttons, check this out. Apparently Gemballa is offering to replace those "buttons'' with F1 type paddle shifters. If I ever get the money to buy a PDK equipped Carrera, I think this is a must mod for me.




Those buttons for gears are now replaced with buttons for horns
I like it thick
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I'm upset we have this video everywhere and not one with the STOCK m3. That would be interesting.

+1 with the others about putting arguments to rest. Porsche vs. m3 are not comparable cars in terms of performance, practicality, and price. Different leagues.
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I thought the M3 would have done better with the mods, ecu and exhaust did not do much for the M3
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Have they run a stock M3 DCT vs a stock C63 AMG?
Not a stock M3, but have you seen:
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