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      05-09-2009, 06:16 AM   #45
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Thanks! I've been through wild mod times, but as I "mature" (I would hope so by now), a little restraint goes a long way. I want to respect the basic engineering they did in Munich, but jut subtly tweak to make it "mine".

It's a fabuloous car to start with. These forums are great at getting everyone to try to outmod the next (Mexico, you're untouchable!). In the end, to 98% of the population we've already got a dream car. So, don't do anything to impress. Just tweak to make it personal. That's my story, and I'm sticking to it.
So very well said. I couldn't agree with you more, Greg.
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So very well said. I couldn't agree with you more, Greg.
+1 So true!
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Where did you pick up the Rogue spacer anyways? I checked EAS and they don't have them?
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You can buy directly from Rogue. Last I looked they seemed to have them in stock.
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I ordered directly from them yesterday, and they were shipped the same day.
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Where did you pick up the Rogue spacer anyways? I checked EAS and they don't have them?
As others have said, direct from RE. I think Bimmerworld carrries them, as well.
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Where did you pick up the Rogue spacer anyways? I checked EAS and they don't have them?
While we are a full stocking Rogue dealer, We offer the Macht Schnell units instead on the spacers.
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I ordered directly from them yesterday, and they were shipped the same day.
I did as well. Thanks for your help Greg with the anti-seize compound. You've done a really nice job with your car.
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FWIW, I have also installed the 15/12 F/R Rogue spacers with the black extended bolts. They're fabulous, lightweight, exceptionally well made, and the sizing makes the profile look just right. Maybe it's just me, but I also sense higher cornering limits on the butt dyno with the spacers. Theoretically I'm right, but the feel could just be in my head.
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How about the locking nuts then? You use four of the extended bolt and the stock locking nut then?
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How about the locking nuts then? You use four of the extended bolt and the stock locking nut then?
Wheel locks are not stock in the U.S., although I'm sure many dealers install aftermarket ones. At any rate, the RE write-up on the spacers addresses that issue and provides part numbers (McGard) for the proper length lock depending upon which spacer. They do not sell them.
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Wheel locks are not stock in the U.S., although I'm sure many dealers install aftermarket ones. At any rate, the RE write-up on the spacers addresses that issue and provides part numbers (McGard) for the proper length lock depending upon which spacer. They do not sell them.
My car came with BMW locking bolts; dealer made no mention of having installed them.

The problem is finding exteeded length black lcoks, which I have not found. I'm going iwthout locks for now.
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My car came with BMW locking bolts; dealer made no mention of having installed them.

The problem is finding exteeded length black lcoks, which I have not found. I'm going iwthout locks for now.
Well I'll be damned . . . You are right they are stock. I've looked several times, but my up-close eyesight just isn't what it used to be. I just took a closer look with my reading glasses on.

I'll run without them too.
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Well I'll be damned . . . You are right they are stock. I've looked several times, but my up-close eyesight just isn't what it used to be. I just took a closer look with my reading glasses on.

I'll run without them too.
Hopefully, the wrench is in your toolkit!
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That's the first thing I checked when I saw the locks this morning, and it is. My glove box flashlight was also still there, and still wrapped in plastic on my left-over '08.
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Thanks! I've been through wild mod times, but as I "mature" (I would hope so by now), a little restraint goes a long way. I want to respect the basic engineering they did in Munich, but jut subtly tweak to make it "mine".

It's a fabuloous car to start with. These forums are great at getting everyone to try to outmod the next (Mexico, you're untouchable!). In the end, to 98% of the population we've already got a dream car. So, don't do anything to impress. Just tweak to make it personal. That's my story, and I'm sticking to it.
I've admired your subtle taste to modding Greg which has been inline with my preferences. I'm think you set the tone for many of us "reserved" modder.

Keep up the good work and thanx for the pictures! I'm lovin the subtle drop of the Dinan springs.
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They are out of stock on the wheel bolts for 18 mm and 15 mm spacers which I have on the way. I've been told they will have more in 2 weeks. I considered the stud kit from Turner Motorsports, however that is a little over kill. I'll post pics when I have them installed.
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Very nice, I want to pull the trigger on this but I am just afraid of getting vibration/shimmy issues back again (I had vibration issues for a while and it was a PITA to get rid of).
I have read that you need balancing and maybe even an alignment after installing spacers, did you have to do this?





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These things are so nice I hate to hide them behind wheels! Maybe I'll mount them on the outside! I got four 12mm spacers + bolts from RE today. I had considered the Macht Schnell ones, but I like the more aggressive cutout on these, the addition of a pry slot on the backside, and the fact they are US-made. Just for reference I compared them to a 10mm H&R Trak+ spacer I had left from my E46 spare. In terms of finish and weight, the RE's kick butt! I know 4 oz/wheel will make no difference, but I still appreciate fine things.

12mm RE - 9.4 oz.
10mm H&R - 12.0 oz. (by extrapolation, 12mm ~ 14 oz.)

It's raining like heck out tonight, so I'll install and post photos tomorrow.
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Very nice, I want to pull the trigger on this but I am just afraid of getting vibration/shimmy issues back again (I had vibration issues for a while and it was a PITA to get rid of).
I have read that you need balancing and maybe even an alignment after installing spacers, did you have to do this?
I installed four 12mm this past Monday night. It's my daily-driver, and I have 250 miles on it since with zero issues. The car feels exactly the same as it did before, which is as it should be, and it is smooth as silk.
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i had rogue spacers for my e46 m3. they were garbage. i had them on the rear of my car, since i run a square set up.

Regardless of the amount of anti-seize placed on the spacer, they would seize on the car. The other thing is that the lip would deform and would be a PITA to remove.

Also the smoothened angled edge would be very hard to pry off when I needed to remove the spacer.

All in all, I prefer the H&R by far. Maybe the new rogue ones are better. From their track record on so-so quality parts, I would stay clear from all their products - except their SSk - but thats an OEM BMW piece thats modified.

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Thanks! I've been through wild mod times, but as I "mature" (I would hope so by now), a little restraint goes a long way. I want to respect the basic engineering they did in Munich, but jut subtly tweak to make it "mine".

It's a fabuloous car to start with. These forums are great at getting everyone to try to outmod the next (Mexico, you're untouchable!). In the end, to 98% of the population we've already got a dream car. So, don't do anything to impress. Just tweak to make it personal. That's my story, and I'm sticking to it.
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i had rogue spacers for my e46 m3. they were garbage. i had them on the rear of my car, since i run a square set up.

Regardless of the amount of anti-seize placed on the spacer, they would seize on the car. The other thing is that the lip would deform and would be a PITA to remove.

Also the smoothened angled edge would be very hard to pry off when I needed to remove the spacer.

All in all, I prefer the H&R by far. Maybe the new rogue ones are better. From their track record on so-so quality parts, I would stay clear from all their products - except their SSk - but thats an OEM BMW piece thats modified.
I'm no RE fanboy, but I don't know how they could be any better than these. Sorry for your bad experience. I know they have refined the design more than once. These seem to fit perfectly--not too tight or loose, and the square kerf along the back edge should make prying off easy if necessary. Just MO.
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