Rogue Engineering spacers - works of art

GregW / Oregon · 05-04-2009, 09:29 PM

These things are so nice I hate to hide them behind wheels! Maybe I'll mount them on the outside! I got four 12mm spacers + bolts from RE today. I had considered the Macht Schnell ones, but I like the more aggressive cutout on these, the addition of a pry slot on the backside, and the fact they are US-made. Just for reference I compared them to a 10mm H&R Trak+ spacer I had left from my E46 spare. In terms of finish and weight, the RE's kick butt! I know 4 oz/wheel will make no difference, but I still appreciate fine things.

12mm RE - 9.4 oz.
10mm H&R - 12.0 oz. (by extrapolation, 12mm ~ 14 oz.)

It's raining like heck out tonight, so I'll install and post photos tomorrow.

Manny212 · 05-04-2009, 09:38 PM

they do look nice but my H&R's work the same and you can't see them.

503Alex · 05-04-2009, 09:39 PM

Looks good! The rain is crazy tonight.

GregW / Oregon · 05-04-2009, 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manny212

they do look nice but my H&R's work the same and you can't see them.

I know, but 1/4 lb is 1/4 lb (unless it's an outside rim 1/4 lb)!

I love German products, but if we can get the same or better in a US product, so much the better for our economy and the environment (shipping from Germany)!

Manny212 · 05-04-2009, 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GregW / Oregon

I know, but 1/4 lb is 1/4 lb (unless it's an outside rim 1/4 lb)!

I love German products, but if we can get the same or better in a US product, so much the better for our economy and the environment (shipping from Germany)!

I know i agree with you. I love RE products and buying US made products is great(except for most of our cars). You have helped the market jump a few points

Mr.Metak2you · 05-04-2009, 10:05 PM

Greg, I'm with you. I like the Rogue spacers, pulleys, SSK etc. I can't wait to hear the exhaust they have planned for our cars!

chris s · 05-04-2009, 10:06 PM

Very nice...i'm considering 15/12 for front and rear. Seems to work nicely. Post pics. Did you pay extra for the black extended lugs?

Radiation Joe · 05-04-2009, 10:15 PM

Interesting.

When did they start machining out the slots? I'm pretty sure I have a two or three year old set of Rogues with large round holes for weight reduction.

sgmsmg · 05-04-2009, 10:18 PM

Rouge must have recently revised their design because these are what the ones I have look like:

wheelman · 05-04-2009, 10:25 PM

I completely agree with Greg.
My 15 & 12mm spacers and black bolts arrived from Rogue on Friday and were installed Saturday. I couldn't be happier with them.

GT3 Tim · 05-05-2009, 10:20 AM

RE makes some quality prodructs! Ben and the guys at RE are true enthusiasts and don't skimp on quality.

Jersey Girl · 05-05-2009, 10:45 AM

Quote:

Rouge must have recently revised their design because these are what the ones I have look like:

Yep, I had some put on my car (15mm f, 12mm r) and Ben had just brought them from the machine shop. In fact I was waiting at their shop for him to get back so they could go on.

mmmmmm, spacers fresh from the oven

IRMthree · 05-07-2009, 02:34 AM

OP: did you put them on?

GregW / Oregon · 05-07-2009, 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IRMthree

OP: did you put them on?

Yep, pics to come TODAY. Nothing radical, but a nice improvement.

chris s · 05-07-2009, 08:22 AM

Pics or ban!

Straz M3 · 05-07-2009, 09:26 AM

The RE 15/12 Combo is how the car should have came from the factory as far as stance. Someone told me the other night that my car looked like a pitbull waiting to attack. Hahaha

Boooost · 05-07-2009, 09:32 AM

15/12 combo is the best setup. I will have to get a set of RE.

GregW / Oregon · 05-07-2009, 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Straz M3

The RE 15/12 Combo is how the car should have came from the factory as far as stance. Someone told me the other night that my car looked like a pitbull waiting to attack. Hahaha

I went 12/12 to maintain the factory F?R track balance. IMO, the front fenders should overhang a little to look right. Pushing the front wheels out too much reminds me of a lot of picups I see with tires sticking out of the body.

The other thing is 15 mm starts to go beyond my confort range for spacer thickness. On the other hand, the 1/8" difference between the two is minimal.

MMMorish · 05-07-2009, 11:32 AM

Pardon my ignorance, but doing spacers is something I've wanted to do for a while and I just don't have enough knowledge about.

Three questions;
1. If I were to do spacers on a non lowered car, will it damage or potentially reduce the longevity of anything mechanical (suspension, tie rods, ect..) on my car?

2. Will it change the dynamics of the cars handling?

3. What is the best set up? Some here say 15f/12r and others say 12f/12r

Please help!

Thanks!!

GregW / Oregon · 05-07-2009, 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MMMorish

Pardon my ignorance, but doing spacers is something I've wanted to do for a while and I just don't have enough knowledge about.

Three questions;
1. If I were to do spacers on a non lowered car, will it damage or potentially reduce the longevity of anything mechanical (suspension, tie rods, ect..) on my car?
2. Will it change the dynamics of the cars handling?
3. What is the best set up? Some here say 15f/12r and others say 12f/12r

Thanks!!

1 & 2. Differences will be very minimal. There could be some shortening of wheel bearing life, but again, minimal.
3. Who are you asking? Like with anything, there will be a diversion of opinions. You are talking about only 1/8" difference per side between 12s & 15s, so it's not dramatic. Look at the various photos posted in various threads of both setups and make up your own mind.

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=240884

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthr...hlight=spacers

l]http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthr...hlight=spacers

MMMorish · 05-07-2009, 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GregW / Oregon

1 & 2. Differences will be very minimal. There could be some shortening of wheel bearing life, but again, minimal.
3. Who are you asking? Like with anything, there will be a diversion of opinions. You are talking about only 1/8" difference per side between 12s & 15s, so it's not dramatic. Look at the various photos posted in various threads of both setups and make up your own mind.

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=240884

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthr...hlight=spacers

l]http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthr...hlight=spacers

Thanks!

dawgdog · 05-07-2009, 08:38 PM

Great thread Greg. I am very interested in these spacers and would love to see photos of them on your car. Also, what do you use as an antiseizing (sp?) compound? I have never put spacers on but would like to do this right.

Thanks,
Carl

05-04-2009, 09:29 PM	#1
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05-04-2009, 09:38 PM	#2
Manny212 Lieutenant Drives: 2008 M3 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: NY Posts: 597 iTrader: (3)	they do look nice but my H&R's work the same and you can't see them. __________________ 2008 E90///M3 - \| Alpine White/Black Novillo \| Technology \| Premium \| Cold \| 19" \| Mods: \| Macht Schnell Filter \| RPi Scoops \| UUC SSK \| H&R Spacers \| AA Pulleys \| HID Angels \| H&R Springs

05-04-2009, 09:39 PM	#3
503Alex Captain Drives: S30 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: OR Posts: 610 iTrader: (0)	Looks good! The rain is crazy tonight. __________________

05-04-2009, 10:05 PM	#6
Mr.Metak2you Brigadier General Drives: LEXUS LS(DailyDriver) Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Astral Projecting: ∞ 23.516 -122 02.625 0242.101 ĕv'rē-hwâr' Posts: 4,383 iTrader: (11) Garage List 2013 BMW M3 [0.00] 2011 1M Coupe (Sold) [4.30] 2008 E90 M3 (Sold) [4.30] 2007 Z4 Mcpe (Sold) [5.00] 2005 BMW M3 (Sold) [5.00]	Greg, I'm with you. I like the Rogue spacers, pulleys, SSK etc. I can't wait to hear the exhaust they have planned for our cars! __________________

05-04-2009, 10:06 PM	#7
chris s Brigadier General Drives: 2012 e92 M3 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: New York Posts: 4,557 iTrader: (8)	Very nice...i'm considering 15/12 for front and rear. Seems to work nicely. Post pics. Did you pay extra for the black extended lugs? __________________ 2012 MR e92 M3 DCT, fully loaded... ESS NA V2 Tune, Akra/Challenge Sport, KW Sleeve, OEM GTS rims, Volk TE37 SLs 2008 e92 M3 Coupe 6MT \| AW/BLK Extended...SOLD!

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Radiation Joe Veni Vidi Vici Drives: '11 JB/BBe-6sp-e90 Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Macungie PA Posts: 2,674 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2003 RS6 - Sold [0.00] 2011 e90 M3 [4.25] 2009 e90 M3 - Gone [0.00] 2003 M3 SOLD [0.00] old 2002 [5.00]	Interesting. When did they start machining out the slots? I'm pretty sure I have a two or three year old set of Rogues with large round holes for weight reduction.

05-04-2009, 10:18 PM	#9
sgmsmg Enlisted Member Drives: 2008 E92 M3 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: MA Posts: 41 iTrader: (1)	Rouge must have recently revised their design because these are what the ones I have look like: Last edited by sgmsmg; 11-20-2009 at 12:04 AM.

05-04-2009, 10:25 PM	#10
wheelman Private First Class Drives: '09 E90 M3 MT Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 114 iTrader: (1)	I completely agree with Greg. My 15 & 12mm spacers and black bolts arrived from Rogue on Friday and were installed Saturday. I couldn't be happier with them. __________________

05-05-2009, 10:20 AM	#11
GT3 Tim Moderator Drives: 2008 E90 M3 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 1,883 iTrader: (0)	RE makes some quality prodructs! Ben and the guys at RE are true enthusiasts and don't skimp on quality. __________________ Tim (apparently likes "3" cars) E90 M3 -- Current ride 2004 GT3 -- Sold 1997 M3/4 -- Sold 1995 M3 -- Sold

05-07-2009, 02:34 AM	#13
IRMthree Captain Drives: E46 M3 SMG Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: WestCoast Posts: 665 iTrader: (0)	OP: did you put them on? __________________ Current: E46 M3 SMG Coupe Possible Future: E92 M3 DCT Coupe

05-07-2009, 08:22 AM	#15
chris s Brigadier General Drives: 2012 e92 M3 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: New York Posts: 4,557 iTrader: (8)	Pics or ban! __________________ 2012 MR e92 M3 DCT, fully loaded... ESS NA V2 Tune, Akra/Challenge Sport, KW Sleeve, OEM GTS rims, Volk TE37 SLs 2008 e92 M3 Coupe 6MT \| AW/BLK Extended...SOLD!

05-07-2009, 09:26 AM	#16
Straz M3 Never Lose Drives: 2011.75 E92 M3 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Windy City Posts: 1,148 iTrader: (2)	The RE 15/12 Combo is how the car should have came from the factory as far as stance. Someone told me the other night that my car looked like a pitbull waiting to attack. Hahaha __________________ '11 Melbourne Red Metallic / Black/Fox/Fox 6MT E92 ///M3 ZCP \| Convenience Package \| Premium Package 2 \| Heated Seats \| Enhanced Premium Sound l BMW Apps

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Boooost Private First Class Drives: MK4 Supra, Alpine on black 335 Join Date: May 2007 Location: Cali/Vegas Posts: 105 iTrader: (0)	15/12 combo is the best setup. I will have to get a set of RE. __________________ BN Sports Supra... mmmm

05-07-2009, 11:32 AM	#19
MMMorish Just call me J.J. McClure Drives: E92 M3 & C4 Corvette Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Toronto Posts: 2,838 iTrader: (5)	Pardon my ignorance, but doing spacers is something I've wanted to do for a while and I just don't have enough knowledge about. Three questions; 1. If I were to do spacers on a non lowered car, will it damage or potentially reduce the longevity of anything mechanical (suspension, tie rods, ect..) on my car? 2. Will it change the dynamics of the cars handling? 3. What is the best set up? Some here say 15f/12r and others say 12f/12r Please help! Thanks!! __________________ MODS: Meisterschaft GT Racing Exhaust / BMC Air Filter / UUC SSK & DSSR (Modded)/ RPI Scoops / Passport SRX Hardwired / Custom Wrap 3M Clearbra / 20% Tint / 50% Windshield Tint / Key Hole Delete / Matted Out Accessories / VRS Type II Diffuser / Smoked Reflectors / Euphoria 6K LED Interior Lights / Rear Fog Light Mod / 6000K HID's / 6500K LUX H8 Angel Eyes / RDash License Plate LED Kit / LED Xenon Reverse Lights "M3 drivers have no friends"

05-07-2009, 08:38 PM	#22
dawgdog Colonel Drives: 08 e92 M3 dct Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Seattle, Wa. Posts: 2,075 iTrader: (0)	Great thread Greg. I am very interested in these spacers and would love to see photos of them on your car. Also, what do you use as an antiseizing (sp?) compound? I have never put spacers on but would like to do this right. Thanks, Carl __________________ AW on Fox Red Extended, Alum trim, ZPP, ZTP, DCT, 19" wheels, Heated front seats, HD radio, Sat radio, I-pod & usb, Premium sound, AP racing BBK, 18 Volk Racing TE 37s, Akrapovic Evolution exhaust, AST suspension

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