DIY: Clutch Pedal Spring Removal DIY

SS32 · 12-24-2008, 04:53 PM

Took ace996's instructions and took some pictures for anyone interested. The hardest part was removing the e-clips, but the right tools help.

Tools used:

T-25 Torx Driver
Flashlight
Various Bent Picks

Tom's Instructions

Quote:

Originally Posted by ace996

I forgot to take pics of this...but my description should be sufficient...it is quite easy.

Ditched the clutch-spring today...about 5 minutes total. You need a little torx bit and something to pull two little e-clips...I used a curved pick.

1. Under the steering wheel, there are three little screws you need to remove, this allows the plate/cover that shields the pedal-innards to be removed. Once they are out, the plate/cover drops down...just watch the wires.

2. Behind the clutch pedal, there is a spring...it looks like a little black coilover...that is what is removed, not the silver spring that pulls it up in front (closer to the driver). You need to use the pick, or something else, to pull the e-clips that are on the left-side of the restraining pins (the top and bottom of the coilover).

3. Push the pedal, by hand, all the way to the floor and push the locating pins (top and bottom) out. This will allow you to pull the top of the coilover out and then the bottom.

4. Put the cover back and install the three screws. That's it.

I've done this to all the cars I've owned over the past few years. What this does is give a consistant feel to the pedal on release. You know how the pedal feels hard at first when you push down, then it gets easier? Now it's just the same feel the whole way down...not really harder...but it doesn't get easier.

The real reason for this... when I release the pedal, you can feel the engagement point much better, instead of the wandering/vague point with the spring. I never feel comfortable with the spring installed, as it feels as if the engagement point is never quite same from one day to the next. Now, the lever release is linear...no change in pressure from one inch to the next.

Depending on how I feel, I may tackle the clutch-stop mod next...

Be good,
TomK

Under the steering wheel you'll find a plastic cover with 3 T-25 screws. Remove these and drop the cover down.

Once you drop the cover down, it helps to detach this connection so you'll have more room to work. I'm not sure what it is, but it comes off easy enough. Just push the tab on the right side and it slides out.

e-clip on the left side of the top retaining pin

e-clip

e-clip on the left side of bottom retaining pin with scratch marks from me trying to remove it

Picks I bought at Advance Auto

This is definitely worth the 10 minutes that it takes. The clutch feels so much more linear. It doesn't pop out at the top of the travel like it used it. If you have even the slightest thought about taking the spring out, do it.

ace996 · 12-25-2008, 01:37 AM

Phenomenal write-up!!! Great job and glad you like the change.
Be good,
TomK

V1.47fan · 12-25-2008, 05:15 PM

Thank-you! guys.

mach330 · 12-28-2008, 01:11 AM

awesome...gonna try this tomorrow.

hvd.kevin · 02-17-2009, 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cowmoo32

Took ace996's instructions and took some pictures for anyone interested. The hardest part was removing the e-clips, but the right tools help.

This is definitely worth the 10 minutes that it takes. The clutch feels so much more linear. It doesn't pop out at the top of the travel like it used it. If you have even the slightest thought about taking the spring out, do it.

What's the point of this mod? I don't know what the clutch pedal spring does? Can someone please explain?

endofanera7 · 02-18-2009, 12:01 AM

I did the same thing and the clutch def feels much better! Great DIY.

schnell325 · 03-29-2009, 02:11 PM

Awesome!!! Just did it and the clutch feels much better, no "click/pop" upon release.

busman76 · 03-31-2009, 11:23 PM

did mine tonight took like 10min and it feels awesome. I agree definitley no pop at the top.

1MOREMOD · 04-12-2009, 12:14 PM

this is a nice idea until you realize you need an acrobat midget to accomlish this. I cant even see the clips to be removed. i can barely reach in and feel where they are so after half hour of messing around put it back together until my midget acrobat shows up to help.

jdogg2000 · 04-16-2009, 08:03 PM

I also thought this was a PITA to do because it took me a while to find a good position to get the upper clip off while holding my light. I ended up lying down upside down on the driver's seat hahah. It was worth it though as it changes the clutch feel immensely. It is MUCH easier to shift smoothly when shifting quickly. Highly recommended, a little pain for a big benefit!

SS32 · 04-20-2009, 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chriszeh

this is a nice idea until you realize you need an acrobat midget to accomlish this. I cant even see the clips to be removed. i can barely reach in and feel where they are so after half hour of messing around put it back together until my midget acrobat shows up to help.

I'm 6' 2" and got it done. It's not the easiest place to work, but it's definitely possible.

1MOREMOD · 04-20-2009, 10:04 AM

i am going to try again shortly as i have a track day coming up. I just wasnt in the mood to mess with this that day i guess.

1MOREMOD · 04-21-2009, 07:44 PM

got this done today. Havent driven the car yet so unsure if it will be something i like. Also my car uses a t-15 for those screws to get the cover off not a t25. mabe i need more drive time but each time i drive the car i forget i even changed anything so dont think this mod does much.

ace996 · 05-15-2009, 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chriszeh

mabe i need more drive time but each time i drive the car i forget i even changed anything so dont think this mod does much.

...put it back in and see if there's a difference...

Wyatt · 06-09-2009, 12:19 AM

Interesting mod. Why would the engineers put the spring in at all if it feels better without it?

JohnnyRoaster · 08-04-2009, 09:01 PM

I did this today and love it. It makes for much faster and smoother shifts. The short shift kit is next. A couple of words about the removal. It is a t15 for the screws. I used a set of ring pliers instead of dental picks. It was really hard to get the lower ring but I did not have to employ any left handed acrobatic midgets. I used a small handheld mirror to see the lower lock ring. It was tricky but at six three a better option than standing on my head backwards with my feet over the drivers seat.

endofanera7 · 08-05-2009, 03:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wyatt

Interesting mod. Why would the engineers put the spring in at all if it feels better without it?

This is the question I've been wondering this past couple of days. My shifting is almost perfectly smooth every single time now I have 15000 miles on the car.

Im thinking of putting the spring back on to see if there's any significant change in my shifting behavior.

For those who did this mod a while back, what's your plan?

John@BMW · 08-05-2009, 09:17 AM

Remember- this clutch spring is designed to help you push the clutch pedal in and keep it to the floor.

Could everyone post a picture of your clutch springs out of the car?

BMW has a newer updated Dual spring design out now that changes the feel and feedback from the clutch pedal.

When i did the 'swap' to the updated spring, the clutch pedal felt much better and linear than before. The earlier version changed pedal effort almost halfway down which gives you a false impression of clutch engagement/disengagement. The new spring does not seem to do that any more-

Picture-

Right side is the newer updated unit. The left side is the original factory '2008' spring

DevJ · 08-05-2009, 09:20 AM

John,

How would I go about getting one of these? Thanks

roofone · 08-05-2009, 10:02 AM

I've got the newer two spring setup pictured on the right. 6/09 build.

I'm glad you posted this. I did the clutch spring removal mod this weekend and didn't like the feel - it was too abrupt. Good to know there's a difference.

Maybe I'm just not very good at shifting, but the clutch just feels perfect with the spring in -- I think I'll be putting it back in this weekend.

John@BMW · 08-05-2009, 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DevJ

John,

How would I go about getting one of these? Thanks

You need to order part number: 35-00-6-769-442

That is the newest updated spring!

SlammedM6 · 08-05-2009, 10:27 AM

you guys think we could get our service department to change this piece without charging? If the original piece sucks?

12-25-2008, 01:37 AM	#2
ace996 NASA/PDA Instructor Drives: E92M3 Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Long Island Posts: 284 iTrader: (0)	Phenomenal write-up!!! Great job and glad you like the change. Be good, TomK __________________ "Arcadian, I've fought countless times, yet I've never met an adversary who could offer me what we Spartans call "A Beautiful Death." I can only hope, with all the world's warriors gathered against us, there might be one down there who's up to the task."Μολὼν λαβέ!!

12-25-2008, 05:15 PM	#3
V1.47fan Captain Drives: Bay M Vee Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: NATIONWIDE Posts: 968 iTrader: (0)	Thank-you! guys. __________________

12-28-2008, 01:11 AM	#4
mach330 You don't know JACK!!! Drives: 2011 X5 35i Join Date: May 2005 Location: The OC Posts: 797 iTrader: (3)	awesome...gonna try this tomorrow. __________________ Rated /// M

03-29-2009, 02:11 PM	#7
schnell325 Bored at work.... Drives: '08 M3,'11 335xi Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: BC Posts: 3,402 iTrader: (5)	Awesome!!! Just did it and the clutch feels much better, no "click/pop" upon release. __________________ 2008 SG E92 M3 6MT AA Stage 2 w/ Meth 2011 SG E90 335xi 6MT 2007 SG E70 X5 4.8is

03-31-2009, 11:23 PM	#8
busman76 Private First Class Drives: E90 M3 AW/Fox Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Bay Area Posts: 116 iTrader: (0)	did mine tonight took like 10min and it feels awesome. I agree definitley no pop at the top. __________________ 08 E90 M3 AW/FR/ 6 speed/Prem/H&R/Macht Schnell Air Filter/B&W Roundels/ Monochrome Badging/ Black Kidneys/ black grilles/ clutch pedal spring removed,painted reflectors,AA Pulley. On order: Macht Schnell Spacers 15/12, GP Thunders,

02-18-2009, 12:01 AM	#6
endofanera7 Major General Drives: 08 JB E92 M3 Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 5,035 iTrader: (12) Garage List 2008 E92 M3 [5.00]	I did the same thing and the clutch def feels much better! Great DIY.

04-12-2009, 12:14 PM	#9
1MOREMOD Major General Drives: at a moderate pace Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: garage Posts: 6,528 iTrader: (3)	this is a nice idea until you realize you need an acrobat midget to accomlish this. I cant even see the clips to be removed. i can barely reach in and feel where they are so after half hour of messing around put it back together until my midget acrobat shows up to help. __________________ 02 Tiag e46 M3\|6MT\|GC plates\|MCS c.o.\|GC race control arms\|GC bushings & bearings\|BW eng. & tran. mounts\|subframe kit\|BW race shifter\|BW Jaffster knob\|Euro header\|Eisenmann sport\|K&N c.a.i.\|Seibon CF hood\|CSL bumper\|CSL brakes\|RS19s\|SS lines\|half cage\|Recaro profi\|Profi 2 harness\|race pulleys\|BMWpedals\|Apex studs\|1995 Ford Probe gt chump car\|

04-16-2009, 08:03 PM	#10
jdogg2000 Private Drives: 2011 E92 M3 Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: USA Posts: 91 iTrader: (0)	I also thought this was a PITA to do because it took me a while to find a good position to get the upper clip off while holding my light. I ended up lying down upside down on the driver's seat hahah. It was worth it though as it changes the clutch feel immensely. It is MUCH easier to shift smoothly when shifting quickly. Highly recommended, a little pain for a big benefit!

04-20-2009, 10:04 AM	#12
1MOREMOD Major General Drives: at a moderate pace Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: garage Posts: 6,528 iTrader: (3)	i am going to try again shortly as i have a track day coming up. I just wasnt in the mood to mess with this that day i guess. __________________ 02 Tiag e46 M3\|6MT\|GC plates\|MCS c.o.\|GC race control arms\|GC bushings & bearings\|BW eng. & tran. mounts\|subframe kit\|BW race shifter\|BW Jaffster knob\|Euro header\|Eisenmann sport\|K&N c.a.i.\|Seibon CF hood\|CSL bumper\|CSL brakes\|RS19s\|SS lines\|half cage\|Recaro profi\|Profi 2 harness\|race pulleys\|BMWpedals\|Apex studs\|1995 Ford Probe gt chump car\|

04-21-2009, 07:44 PM	#13
1MOREMOD Major General Drives: at a moderate pace Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: garage Posts: 6,528 iTrader: (3)	got this done today. Havent driven the car yet so unsure if it will be something i like. Also my car uses a t-15 for those screws to get the cover off not a t25. mabe i need more drive time but each time i drive the car i forget i even changed anything so dont think this mod does much. __________________ 02 Tiag e46 M3\|6MT\|GC plates\|MCS c.o.\|GC race control arms\|GC bushings & bearings\|BW eng. & tran. mounts\|subframe kit\|BW race shifter\|BW Jaffster knob\|Euro header\|Eisenmann sport\|K&N c.a.i.\|Seibon CF hood\|CSL bumper\|CSL brakes\|RS19s\|SS lines\|half cage\|Recaro profi\|Profi 2 harness\|race pulleys\|BMWpedals\|Apex studs\|1995 Ford Probe gt chump car\| Last edited by 1MOREMOD; 04-23-2009 at 10:17 AM.

06-09-2009, 12:19 AM	#15
Wyatt Private First Class Drives: '11 Mk2 911 GT3 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Boise, Idaho USA Posts: 129 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2008 E92 M3 [0.00]	Interesting mod. Why would the engineers put the spring in at all if it feels better without it?

08-04-2009, 09:01 PM	#16
JohnnyRoaster Captain Drives: 09 Jerez Black M3 Sedan Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Outside Beantown Posts: 940 iTrader: (0)	I did this today and love it. It makes for much faster and smoother shifts. The short shift kit is next. A couple of words about the removal. It is a t15 for the screws. I used a set of ring pliers instead of dental picks. It was really hard to get the lower ring but I did not have to employ any left handed acrobatic midgets. I used a small handheld mirror to see the lower lock ring. It was tricky but at six three a better option than standing on my head backwards with my feet over the drivers seat. __________________

08-05-2009, 09:17 AM	#18
John@BMW I can't belive this car is a 4 door family sedan. Drives: 2008 M3 sedan, '96 M3 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Atlanta Posts: 386 iTrader: (1)	Remember- this clutch spring is designed to help you push the clutch pedal in and keep it to the floor. Could everyone post a picture of your clutch springs out of the car? BMW has a newer updated Dual spring design out now that changes the feel and feedback from the clutch pedal. When i did the 'swap' to the updated spring, the clutch pedal felt much better and linear than before. The earlier version changed pedal effort almost halfway down which gives you a false impression of clutch engagement/disengagement. The new spring does not seem to do that any more- Picture- Right side is the newer updated unit. The left side is the original factory '2008' spring Attached Images __________________

08-05-2009, 09:20 AM	#19
DevJ Colonel Drives: E92 M3 & IS350 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Norman, OK Posts: 2,605 iTrader: (1)	John, How would I go about getting one of these? Thanks __________________ E92 M3. Mods: \|Eisenmann Race\|AA X-Pipe + HFCs\| and a few others

08-05-2009, 10:02 AM	#20
roofone Enlisted Member Drives: 09 E90 M3 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Boston Posts: 46 iTrader: (0)	I've got the newer two spring setup pictured on the right. 6/09 build. I'm glad you posted this. I did the clutch spring removal mod this weekend and didn't like the feel - it was too abrupt. Good to know there's a difference. Maybe I'm just not very good at shifting, but the clutch just feels perfect with the spring in -- I think I'll be putting it back in this weekend.

08-05-2009, 10:27 AM	#22
SlammedM6 Brigadier General Drives: 2011 RR Sport Autobiography Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Toronto Posts: 4,924 iTrader: (2)	you guys think we could get our service department to change this piece without charging? If the original piece sucks? __________________

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