Unbelievable: problems already!

ROTORHEAD77 · 04-10-2009, 02:52 PM

Wow,

I picked the car up on Tuesday, it is Friday and there is already a problem. There are less than 500KM on the car and it has an ABS/DSC/DBC malfunction indicators going off. I can't turn on DSC, nor can I use cruise control. I am visiting the German dealer in the morning. The faults will not clear with restarts, and I am not going to tamper with anything at this point as far as resetting the ECU via a battery disconnect. I am not sure that that will clear the fault codes in this modern ECU anyway.

It is a crying shame that my car came off the line not 2 weeks ago, and I have to take it back to the dealership during my first week of ownership.

Until the malfunction indications appeared, I was having a blast. This car is a lot of fun even below 5500 RPM and without full throttle. I still love it, and am giving Bimmer the benefit of the doubt with respect to the issue.

What a way to ruin a Saturday.

Are these common problems with the E90?

Sorry for the rant, I am just disappointed.

URBAN LEGEND · 04-10-2009, 03:51 PM

Sorry to hear that. I am sure it will get fixed quickly.

skim · 04-10-2009, 03:52 PM

sorry to hear.. i'm sure the dealer will get her back in good health.
i have about 1k miles on her now and i know she's still in the infant stage, but no issues so far!

gemini330zhp · 04-10-2009, 08:55 PM

Wow that sucks but then again this is why we have a warranty. Im sure the car will be fine once its fixed.

ROTORHEAD77 · 04-11-2009, 04:25 AM

The mech told me that it is an abs "black box" that is broken. They can't order one until Tuesday. I have to commend the German dealer. They are pretty competent, from my perspective. One good thing about being in Bavaria is that it should only take 1 or 2 days to get the part.

MrHarris · 04-11-2009, 04:31 AM

I've read of this problem like 5 times already

itsmejoehaha · 04-11-2009, 06:26 AM

my car broke the same day i picked it up. the dealer had it for two weeks and i just got it back.... drove it for a day and today i need to bring it back to the dealer with another check engine light. (owned the car for a total 2.5 weeks now)

im very disappointed in these cars

Blue0013 · 04-11-2009, 07:24 AM

I dropped my car off last monday with similar issues. DSC/DBC/reduce performance/increased emissions (which came on later in the day). It had at the time of drop off about 15010 miles so I was just about to turn it in anyway, but they had it for a week I got it back Friday afternoon(last night). Good thing was I went out of town monday right after I dropped it off, and got a call that it was ready for pick up on my way back in to town. So no time lost I guess. My dealer said the issuse was the same as yours so, at least they are on track with what it is. You should have it back in no time.

elmariachi · 04-11-2009, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by ROTORHEAD77

The mech told me that it is an abs "black box" that is broken. They can't order one until Tuesday. I have to commend the German dealer. They are pretty competent, from my perspective. One good thing about being in Bavaria is that it should only take 1 or 2 days to get the part.

In a place where it is home to BMW, I would be surprised if they were not competent. Dont worry. I am sure you will be taken care off.

NoSubstitute · 04-11-2009, 04:28 PM

The M3 is a very scary investment if plan to own it after warranty.

1013mm · 04-11-2009, 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoSubstitute

The M3 is a very scary investment if plan to own it after warranty.

ouch because its kinda true.....

Mr Tonka · 04-11-2009, 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoSubstitute

The M3 is a very scary investment if plan to own it after warranty.

investment?? I hope you're not a financial advisor.

SHADY1 · 04-12-2009, 03:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoSubstitute

The M3 is a very scary investment if plan to own it after warranty.

Aussie F10M · 04-12-2009, 03:21 AM

URBAN LEGEND · 04-12-2009, 06:17 AM

Its not an investment. Its a toy...

ersin · 04-12-2009, 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoSubstitute

The M3 is a very scary investment if plan to own it after warranty.

Not really. I see these as teething problems. It'll get sorted out. The BMWs I've owned just seemed to better as time went on.

SlammedR8 · 04-12-2009, 10:04 AM

i had the same errors, they replaced my wheel speed sensor last week and Im good to go now!

exadius · 04-12-2009, 12:43 PM

I had a similar problem. The DSC failed on the way home from the dealer. It turns out that it was a manafacturing problem. A wire from the controler to one of the wheels was shorted out when it was caught in a metal bracket during assembly. They replaced the controller before they discovered the actual problem.

ROTORHEAD77 · 04-12-2009, 02:07 PM

Let us hope that it is not the same problem as your exadius. In Germany, this car cost an arm, a leg, and a child (Pretty close to $150,000 with a 19% sales tax included). It is for this reason that there is a possibility that this dealer hasn't seen too many of these cars and might not be aware of the quirks.

Which wheel caused the problem?

Thanks!

osteome · 04-12-2009, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ROTORHEAD77

Let us hope that it is not the same problem as your exadius. In Germany, this car cost an arm, a leg, and a child (Pretty close to $150,000 with a 19% sales tax included).

A little OT, but it is my experience that most Americans over here, really don't pay much attention to it, but the Germans seem a bit more "aware" of the M3 badge. In general use, it seems to get more stares off-post than on.

I have had no problems in my first 900 miles, but hope that the local dealer will provide a smooth service at 1200 miles (at my cost), with the relative rarity of the vehicles in this neck of the woods (I know of only 4 M3s and at least one M5 locally)

04-10-2009, 02:52 PM	#1
ROTORHEAD77 DUSTOFF: ALL BALLS, NO GUNS!!! Drives: '09 E90 M3 SG DCT '04 JDM FIT Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Mittel Franken Posts: 110 iTrader: (0)	Unbelievable: problems already! Wow, I picked the car up on Tuesday, it is Friday and there is already a problem. There are less than 500KM on the car and it has an ABS/DSC/DBC malfunction indicators going off. I can't turn on DSC, nor can I use cruise control. I am visiting the German dealer in the morning. The faults will not clear with restarts, and I am not going to tamper with anything at this point as far as resetting the ECU via a battery disconnect. I am not sure that that will clear the fault codes in this modern ECU anyway. It is a crying shame that my car came off the line not 2 weeks ago, and I have to take it back to the dealership during my first week of ownership. Until the malfunction indications appeared, I was having a blast. This car is a lot of fun even below 5500 RPM and without full throttle. I still love it, and am giving Bimmer the benefit of the doubt with respect to the issue. What a way to ruin a Saturday. Are these common problems with the E90? Sorry for the rant, I am just disappointed.
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04-10-2009, 03:51 PM	#2
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skim Lieutenant Drives: 07 Z4MC Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: SF Bay Area, CA Posts: 556 iTrader: (0)	sorry to hear.. i'm sure the dealer will get her back in good health. i have about 1k miles on her now and i know she's still in the infant stage, but no issues so far! __________________ Future mod consideration: exhaust, pulley otherwise, very happy with how the m3 was born
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04-10-2009, 08:55 PM	#4
gemini330zhp Major Drives: 2008 M3 E90 Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: BergenCo NewJersey Posts: 1,181 iTrader: (0)	Wow that sucks but then again this is why we have a warranty. Im sure the car will be fine once its fixed. __________________ 2008 Jet Black E90 M3 6SPD no sunroof and 18s to my specs
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04-11-2009, 04:25 AM	#5
ROTORHEAD77 DUSTOFF: ALL BALLS, NO GUNS!!! Drives: '09 E90 M3 SG DCT '04 JDM FIT Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Mittel Franken Posts: 110 iTrader: (0)	The mech told me that it is an abs "black box" that is broken. They can't order one until Tuesday. I have to commend the German dealer. They are pretty competent, from my perspective. One good thing about being in Bavaria is that it should only take 1 or 2 days to get the part.
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04-11-2009, 06:26 AM	#7
itsmejoehaha New Member Drives: 2008 Alpine White M3 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: NH Posts: 9 iTrader: (0)	my car broke the same day i picked it up. the dealer had it for two weeks and i just got it back.... drove it for a day and today i need to bring it back to the dealer with another check engine light. (owned the car for a total 2.5 weeks now) im very disappointed in these cars
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04-11-2009, 07:24 AM	#8
Blue0013 Let's go to the track! Drives: 1 Sick Car Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Killeen, TX Posts: 76 iTrader: (0)	I dropped my car off last monday with similar issues. DSC/DBC/reduce performance/increased emissions (which came on later in the day). It had at the time of drop off about 15010 miles so I was just about to turn it in anyway, but they had it for a week I got it back Friday afternoon(last night). Good thing was I went out of town monday right after I dropped it off, and got a call that it was ready for pick up on my way back in to town. So no time lost I guess. My dealer said the issuse was the same as yours so, at least they are on track with what it is. You should have it back in no time. __________________ *08 E92 ///M3* Alpine White Fox Red Premium/Technolgy**
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NoSubstitute New Member Drives: 2009 C2, GT3 Soon! Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Arizona Posts: 21 iTrader: (0)	The M3 is a very scary investment if plan to own it after warranty.
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04-12-2009, 06:17 AM	#15
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SlammedR8 Brigadier General Drives: 2010 Audi R8 V10 +2013 Audi S4 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Toronto Posts: 4,936 iTrader: (2)	i had the same errors, they replaced my wheel speed sensor last week and Im good to go now! __________________
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04-12-2009, 12:43 PM	#18
exadius Private Drives: Space Grey E92 M3 M-DCT Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 90 iTrader: (0)	I had a similar problem. The DSC failed on the way home from the dealer. It turns out that it was a manafacturing problem. A wire from the controler to one of the wheels was shorted out when it was caught in a metal bracket during assembly. They replaced the controller before they discovered the actual problem.
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04-12-2009, 02:07 PM	#19
ROTORHEAD77 DUSTOFF: ALL BALLS, NO GUNS!!! Drives: '09 E90 M3 SG DCT '04 JDM FIT Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Mittel Franken Posts: 110 iTrader: (0)	Let us hope that it is not the same problem as your exadius. In Germany, this car cost an arm, a leg, and a child (Pretty close to $150,000 with a 19% sales tax included). It is for this reason that there is a possibility that this dealer hasn't seen too many of these cars and might not be aware of the quirks. Which wheel caused the problem? Thanks!
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