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      03-30-2009, 10:18 PM   #1
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EDC question

Ok, so after reading all threads about the EDC, the consensus is that it is only in "active mode" when in comfort or normal mode, and is "passive or non-active in sport mode.

Where does this info. come from? No where in the manual does it say that the EDC is disabled/passive when in sport mode. If you look at page #84 it basically says.....

Comfort: Select comfort if you want comfort-oriented shock absorbers

Normal: Select normal if you want a balance between comfort and sportiness

Sport: If you want consistently sporty control of the shock absorbers.

But nowhere does it say that the active portion of EDC is inactive in sport mode.

If fact it starts out by saying "You can select from 3 different programs for EDC"

Anyways, I still thing that the shocks make tiny adjustments even in sport mode.

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Probably more references out there. See third response from Larry Koch on normal vs. sport.

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=134860
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The usefulness of Sport will depend on the course. If it's smooth, then you'll get quicker transitions and less body roll. The Normal mode is best for rough roads at speed and courses with choppy corners or braking areas. By staying active, it'll give you more control as you need it. Comfort is best for drag starts from a dead stop, since it'll allow the most weight transfer to the rear wheels.

I don't know why you say the adjustments are "tiny." I've driven with passive adjustable Konis, Bilsteins and Tokikos and the EDC has more adjustment range than any of those. Generally all of those "performance" shocks stayed way harder than the EDC, even on their softest settings.

Have you been through a fast right-left transition with a dip or bump in the middle? I've never had a car that would track so well. My prior "great handling" cars would fly over the bump and my comfortable cars would perhaps track the bump, but bound out all over the place on the other side. The BMW keeps the drama so low that you think that nothing's going on, when a lot is really going on.

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The usefulness of Sport will depend on the course. If it's smooth, then you'll get quicker transitions and less body roll. The Normal mode is best for rough roads at speed and courses with choppy corners or braking areas. By staying active, it'll give you more control as you need it. Comfort is best for drag starts from a dead stop, since it'll allow the most weight transfer to the rear wheels.

I don't know why you say the adjustments are "tiny." I've driven with passive adjustable Konis, Bilsteins and Tokikos and the EDC has more adjustment range than any of those. Generally all of those "performance" shocks stayed way harder than the EDC, even on their softest settings.

Have you been through a fast right-left transition with a dip or bump in the middle? I've never had a car that would track so well. My prior "great handling" cars would fly over the bump and my comfortable cars would perhaps track the bump, but bound out all over the place on the other side. The BMW keeps the drama so low that you think that nothing's going on, when a lot is really going on.

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Tiny was used very loosely in my statement. I am by no means belittling the EDC system, I KNOW it is awesome as I had KWV2 on my 335I, my comment was whether the system goes into a "passive" mode in the SPORT setting. Most say yes, but the manual says nothing about it being passive at all. The manual suggests that all 3 modes are active modes.

Passive meaning not making adjustments on the fly and just being a regular preset damping.
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Tiny was used very loosely in my statement. I am by no means belittling the EDC system, I KNOW it is awesome as I had KWV2 on my 335I, my comment was whether the system goes into a "passive" mode in the SPORT setting. Most say yes, but the manual says nothing about it being passive at all. The manual suggests that all 3 modes are active modes.

Passive meaning not making adjustments on the fly and just being a regular preset damping.
I don't see how the manual suggest all 3 modes are active modes. If anything, it suggests otherwise; note the use of the term "consistently" for sport mode. Details of how the suspension settings work were a part of the original press releases I think. There was a 60 page word document, and they might be in there. Also, Ronin13 posted the link to Larry Koch's answer to that specific question. One must assume he answered that question correctly.
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Absolutely, Sport mode is passive and set at 75% of maximum damping.

I'm kinda lazy on that one. Do you really need proof?


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