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      03-25-2009, 02:28 PM   #1
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20" BBS LM-R from [GT Motoring] :Agressive Spec:

Ordered these 8 weeks ago along with my KW Clubsports which arrived much earlier. The wheels were shipped from Japan. GT Motoring balanced/mounted Yokohama Advan Sports for me with TPMs and shipped them to me. They are spotless. Again I have to thank Jae over at GT Motoring for all of his help. He's very knowledgeable, was always there to answer my questions, courteous, and updated me on the progress of my order. He also threw in a couple of extras .

So here they are 20x9 et8 fronts with 255/30/20 tires. 20x10 et18 with 285/30/20 rears.

If you saw my car before with just the Clubsports, you saw it was pretty dumped. There was major rubbing with it that way. I raised it about 1/2 inch all around and now there's some rubbing on the right rear which I hope some camber will be able to fix. The fronts clear the fender fine but there is some rubbing on the fender well liner close to full turn.

Here are some quick pictures to show what the car looks like at different angles. I'll take some better photos later and post them in the photos section. On with the show.



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Washed the wheels and applied a layer of Jetseal 109 (sealant)


















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      03-25-2009, 02:35 PM   #2
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They look perfect.
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      03-25-2009, 02:40 PM   #3
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Wow...thats hot!
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      03-25-2009, 02:55 PM   #5
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wow, amazing....I Might need to reconsider my P40 decision...
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      03-25-2009, 02:57 PM   #6
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HOT, looks perfect, how it should be. Enjoy em!
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      03-25-2009, 03:02 PM   #7
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Wow, that looks amazing. Too bad about the rubbing. Are you running spacers?
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      03-25-2009, 03:11 PM   #8
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Wow, that looks amazing. Too bad about the rubbing. Are you running spacers?
No spacers. I'm sure the rear rubbing will be fixed with some camber adjustment on the rear. Not sure about the front wheels rubbing on the inside fender well liner though.
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Beautiful.

Very surprised about the rubbing. Your running an aggressive offset, but other are running even more aggressive with no rubbing. I wonder if it has anything to do with the KW's. Is it rubbing on the fender or the suspenpension??

My new wheels are 20x11.5 and running a 325 on the rear with no rubbing.
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Damn...John...sex on wheels!!! I gotta check it out in person.
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Beautiful.

Very surprised about the rubbing. Your running an aggressive offset, but other are running even more aggressive with no rubbing. I wonder if it has anything to do with the KW's. Is it rubbing on the fender or the suspenpension??

My new wheels are 20x11.5 and running a 325 on the rear with no rubbing.
It's because the offsets are so agressive. I don't think any other wheel out there is this much. The back right is rubbin on the actual fender (the little lip area right at the edge where it gets rolled in). The fronts rub the actual wheel well liner.
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Beautiful.

Very surprised about the rubbing. Your running an aggressive offset, but other are running even more aggressive with no rubbing. I wonder if it has anything to do with the KW's. Is it rubbing on the fender or the suspenpension??

My new wheels are 20x11.5 and running a 325 on the rear with no rubbing.

The wheels look sick!

Not to hijack the thread but
Hi Volinder, Can you post a link of the pics of your wheels? and also post exact specs on the tires?
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Absolutely awesome!!! GTM =
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Beautiful.

Very surprised about the rubbing. Your running an aggressive offset, but other are running even more aggressive with no rubbing. I wonder if it has anything to do with the KW's. Is it rubbing on the fender or the suspenpension??

My new wheels are 20x11.5 and running a 325 on the rear with no rubbing.
U can run an even bigger tire and not have rubbing as long as the offsets are not aggressive, but doesnt look nearly as good as how very aggressive offsets look. I have 360 Forged wheels, and when i bought them I told them I wanted the most aggressive offsets I could get and so they did. When I put them on I felt like I could run small spacers cause there was some room to play with, but guess what? That wasnt so. 360 basically maxed it out. I tried a 5mm spacer in the back and was rubbing on the fender part closest to the skirt and 10mm up front was rubbing on the wheel liner. I felt that even by running more negative camber in the rear I would have rubbing on the corners and the front, well, I dont think camber adjustments will fix that rubbing. Op, all u can try to do is run a thinner tire for the front. Does look very mean tho and PERFECT lol.

U just have to decide tho wether ur fine with paying a shit load of money on custom wheels and b cool with them rubbing. I wasnt, therefore took the spacers off.
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wow, those are amazing. car looks beautiful. the offsets are just perfect!
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Perfect ride height, Perfect offset, Perfect car!


Because you have not adjust any alignment since you lowered the car, the rears are rubbing unevenly.
Once you get the little more camber front and rear, you won't have any rubbing issue.


Anyways, car looks VERY HOT, I wish I should have ordered another set for MY M3.
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Perfect ride height, Perfect offset, Perfect car!


Because you have not adjust any alignment since you lowered the car, the rears are rubbing unevenly.
Once you get the little more camber front and rear, you won't have any rubbing issue.


Anyways, car looks VERY HOT, I wish I should have ordered another set for MY M3.
I am running those same tire sizes. I didnt notice it on my eralier post. I can almost guarantee u that the front rubbing will not go away. U might get rid of the rear rubbing with either running some serious negative camber or mayb raising it a bit, but not the front. With those offsets and tire sizes the only way u might b able to get rid of the rubbing is by raising the car, but who would do that now lol.
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I am running those same tire sizes. I didnt notice it on my eralier post. I can almost guarantee u that the front rubbing will not go away. U might get rid of the rear rubbing with either running some serious negative camber or mayb raising it a bit, but not the front. With those offsets and tire sizes the only way u might b able to get rid of the rubbing is by raising the car, but who would do that now lol.
I have to disagree.
FYI, this set up has been done already.
We would NEVER recommend such a set up if the wheel will have major rubbing issue.


Rear rubbing issue can be solve with just stock camber adjustment knob.
It is NOT even near "serious" negative camber, just little more camber than stock config.

For fronts...
Because we knew stock front suspension wont allow enough camber to clear the fronts, this is why we recommended KW ClubSports to give extra camber to go with this wheel.
We do NOT sell this wheel to those who will be lowering the car with just springs or basic coilover due to rubbing issue.
The above pictures are NOT even at max neg camber YET, there are PLENTLY room for adjustment.
And even at current setup, Sard says it does NOT rub as he stated on first thread.


The rubbing with fender liner while turning is different issue.
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      03-25-2009, 04:24 PM   #21
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I love these - really aggresive - how much did they set you back by? Thanks.
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