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      02-26-2009, 11:16 PM   #45
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all jokes aside, post #37 is pretty sad.

I love my 335, but damn if BMW isn't so behind on some things (who the hell puts a cd changer in the trunk)
I feel like shrek everytime i think about my interior, it really is not the best. For example you have to look at the stereo to see the song number or radio station while every Acura had a small display with the temp and the stereo settings.

Really like the different approach behind the engine though.You don't have to rev it as much to make progress.
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      02-27-2009, 12:34 AM   #46
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Dude, that looks like a Neon and a Focus did the nasty and had a baby.
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Well the new TSX looks like my turd had a baby.

Of the two, I would prefer the one that looks like a Neon and a Focus.
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Your turd has a snaggletooth.
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      02-27-2009, 09:30 AM   #47
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One thing to keep in mind is that probably 5% of people care about the difference between fwd and rwd. Another thing to keep in mind is Honda knows how to make a fwd car handle very well. I would imagine that the new TSX will slalom a little faster than a 328i.
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      02-27-2009, 11:10 AM   #48
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I'm kinda surprised they didn't put the turbo 4 in the TSX
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yeah, the K23 turbo motor would be a much better fit for the TSX than a V6. I liked the previous model TSX and almost got one, but it was sold out from under me. I'm kinda happy though, because I do like the e90 a lot, and probably wouldn't have even considered the car if the TSX hadn't sold (I only had hondas/acuras for the last 18 years).
Apparently it wouldn't fit.
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      02-27-2009, 11:19 AM   #49
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I had a TL and the dealer gave me the previous generation TSX many times as a loaner. So I've got lots of experience with these cars.

The TL/TSX are designed for different market segment than our E9x cars. The TL/TSX are sportier than most cars, but our E9x cars go to next level, especially with ZSP.

I haven't driven the new TSX/V6, but I doubt it will come close to matching the handling of our cars. Virtually every automotive writer says our cars are the best handling sport sedans, period.

You not only have physics going against you with FWD, you've got Acura setting up these cars for a much larger market segment. An E9x with ZSP and RFT's is a pretty extreme car compared to most cars. It is way off the mark for "normal" non-enthusiast drivers. It takes a real enthusiast to appreciate the stiff, sometimes harsh ride.

The TL/TSX are pretty nice cars that are sportier than most and they'll cost less to maintain. But our cars come much closer to being the perfect sports sedans and they are worth a few extra bucks to enthusiasts.
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      02-27-2009, 11:29 AM   #50
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I think that Acura went seriously down hill with the TSX re-design. They took a clean and sex potential rich car and did plastic surgery and it went wrong. The previous gen had a lot going for it... the gear box (6 speed) was great and it had a better motor than a Type S... K24 which LOVES boost. The only problem is it was under powered for a car that wasn't very light and it was FWD. Now this... WTF.

Now THESE are the TSX's I'd want in my garage:











I would have opted for black or bronze instead of lime buttttt

















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      02-27-2009, 01:17 PM   #51
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Add my name to the former TSX owners: An 06 MMC Carbon Grey 6MT.

Terrific daily driver, perfectly mated I4/6MT, not fast but quick enough to have a little fun, FWD but no torque steer and very tossable, outstanding NAV/Bluetooth/instrumentation, great mileage, made in JP with exceptional fit and finish. All and all, a best buy, all for under 30K.

Fast forward to the second gen, 09 TSX.

Exterior: Fail.
Interior: Fail.

Test Drive: "Is the steering supposed to be this way?" "Yes, its improved."

Acura: Next gen RL, TL, and TSX. Power Plenum. Epic. Fail.

BMW 328 vs. TSX? You must be joking.
I had an 06 6mt/Nav TSX also. I sometimes miss it, but I sold it for a very commendable reason so, meh. It wasn't very quick or a handling champ, but it was fun to steer and had a nice stirring gearbox. I still notice a nicely done up CL-9 TSX.

The new ones, I would never consider. They gayed it up too much...they went the opposite they should have gone with it. They should have gone further towards enthusiast/performance IMO.
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      02-27-2009, 02:23 PM   #52
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Something is wrong with your 328 then.

A stock TSX has a 15.7 1/4 mile (hell edmunds had it at 16.2 and it was a manual)

A stock 2000 328i does it in 15.2 (same edmunds got the 328 in 15 flat and achieved 16 flat in a 2000 323 convertible)

Not saying the TSX is bad its not at all, but a 328 should be noticeable faster and I feel something is off with yours. (coming from a fellow E46 owner)
When my 328i was brand new, it may be slightly faster than my TSX but never come to noticeable faster. But when I got my TSX, my 328i was already 4 yr old. And my TSX with hondata is able to pull away from a E46 325. But I dun care which one is slightly faster than which. The point is the 2.4L Honda I4 just as strong as some BMW I6 even with higher displacement. Many over here will just say I4 sucks, FWD sucks, jap sucks...etc. even never really drive it and then comment with "my buddy has one and it sucks".
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      02-27-2009, 02:29 PM   #53
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The last one was a really fun car in 6MT even without any power. But this sucker's way too heavy (as much as the 2nd gen TL-S) and lost its sport edge. With that said though, the interior is actually extremely nice and it's definitely the most attractive sedan Acura is selling these days. I'd buy it if they made it in AWD.
Know a s******* of ppl who own the prev gen TSX, but one of my buddies has the stick... LOVED every minute behind the wheel.. what a box and what an engine ... a pure GT.....high revs and larger ratios
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      02-27-2009, 06:52 PM   #54
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When my 328i was brand new, it may be slightly faster than my TSX but never come to noticeable faster. But when I got my TSX, my 328i was already 4 yr old. And my TSX with hondata is able to pull away from a E46 325. But I dun care which one is slightly faster than which. The point is the 2.4L Honda I4 just as strong as some BMW I6 even with higher displacement. Many over here will just say I4 sucks, FWD sucks, jap sucks...etc. even never really drive it and then comment with "my buddy has one and it sucks".
I had a FWD car for a while... it sucked. The FWD part, that is. If Toyota had done the 2000 Celica GT-S right, it would have been RWD and I might still be driving it.

And I swore the TSX had a 2.0 liter engine. Both gens.
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      02-27-2009, 07:09 PM   #55
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I highly doubt the new TSX will be priced like the 328...more like TSX = 128 pricing

328 price near the TL
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      02-28-2009, 04:25 AM   #56
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I highly doubt the new TSX will be priced like the 328...more like TSX = 128 pricing

328 price near the TL
Believe it. Honda thinks that the TSX should be good enough to take on the overpriced ripoff. You will get everything a loaded 328i comes with at the price you expect it to start at (34,000).
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...but I'm not digging that design. 328i looks WAY nicer.
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      03-04-2009, 03:57 PM   #58
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Front Grill = FAIL.

If it looked like this and was RWD or AWD...I'd totally go for one:

acura should hire you to be their designer for their next tsx!!
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acura should hire you to be their designer for their next tsx!!
He did not render that but i do believe that they should have gone in a similar direction.
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acura should hire you to be their designer for their next tsx!!
That was what everyone thought and hoped the redesigned TSX would look like. The picture is at least 2 years old.

I think the new TSX is like the G37 coupe..they tried to do too much. I've seen both old TSX and new TSX parked next to each other, in the same color as well....and I thought to myself how the old one looked nicer. The lines were subtle and smooth and not so 'loud' like the new one.
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