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      11-21-2008, 06:30 PM   #1
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m3 vs sl63 vs evo x vs tt-s vs is-f

dont know if its a repost **************************car-videos-08...-vs-BMW-M3.htm
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      11-21-2008, 06:49 PM   #2
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They always start the M3 in the back for some reason. Not much passing going on.

I was surprised how the Audi took off at the start.
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      11-21-2008, 06:53 PM   #3
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nice!! But the m3 on the wet is not good!!
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      11-21-2008, 07:35 PM   #4
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That Best Motoring shit is more fixed than the WWF.
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      11-21-2008, 10:12 PM   #5
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They always line up the cars from slowest to fastest. Since the M3 is the fastest of all of these cars in the dry, it would most likely be ranked near the back.
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that audi is badass
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      11-23-2008, 03:12 PM   #7
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AWD > RWD in the wet.
Also, the M3 was a DCT, the outcome was expected!
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      11-23-2008, 06:08 PM   #8
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weird. Jap show. Jap driver. jap car beats out better car. hmm.
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      11-24-2008, 06:40 AM   #9
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at least the rwd mercedes came in first!
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      11-25-2008, 12:48 PM   #10
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Look at the lines the M3 driver was taking.....horrible....he didn't even try to pass the Lexus until the last lap..... If the track was dry.....the M3 should beat all of those with ease..
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weird. Jap show. Jap driver. jap car beats out better car. hmm.
Not necessarily true. One of the first races between the IS-F vs M3 in one of those jap auto shows, the M3 beat the IS-F by a huge margin.

Here's the video. It was actually Best Motoring video also, between the C63 vs M3 vs IS-F vs 350GT.

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      11-26-2008, 01:21 AM   #12
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I think this was supposed to be a comedy race...
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1) BMI/Hot Version "races" are ALWAYS placed on the starting grid based on the vehicles power:weight ratio, ie. 15lbs to 1bhp would be farther up front than a 10lbs to 1bhp car.

2) At the end of the segment they always post the cars fastest lap and a timed trial lap (performed prior to the race and w/o other cars obstructing)... these times (esp. the time trial) are truer to what that car can do given the varying test day conditions.

3) These gentleman are ALL Professional Drivers who compete and win in various motorsport series of auto-racing... their talent/abilities needn't be questioned.

4) [where applicable] Would you try to hit a few more keys to spell Japanese or abbreviate as JPN... the other way is offensive.
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      12-08-2008, 01:40 AM   #14
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wet laps mean nothing.
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      12-08-2008, 03:44 PM   #15
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AWD > RWD in the wet.
Also, the M3 was a DCT, the outcome was expected!
Not so fast...

This article shows the E46 M3 out performing the Audi S4 in wet cornering. As the OP said Audi fans will obviosuly call the test rigged... Oh well I liked the article.
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Not so fast...

This article shows the E46 M3 out performing the Audi S4 in wet cornering. As the OP said Audi fans will obviosuly call the test rigged... Oh well I liked the article.
If you honestly believe that in the wet rwd BMW is as good as awd Audi then so be it swamp.

I know from personal experience that quattro aids wet grip but only exiting the corners, during the corner it has no bearing what so ever but you can get back on the throttle a lot sooner. So it depending on the length of the track and the amount of corners as it how big the victory will be for the Audi or any other awd car.

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SportAuto did their own wet track test, best do a search and see how much slower the M3/335i is in comparison to the RS4/S5.
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all that power to the rear in the pouring rain. Honestly that race looked about right.
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      03-02-2009, 06:26 PM   #18
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wet laps mean nothing.
I beg to differ - it was raining when I did Watkins Glen, did my 335i absolutely no favors...

You can hope for good weather, but in the end you drive what you brung, regardless if rain or shine.


Edit: And that being said, I think I would have fared lots better if I'd had a set of PS2 or similar over my Pirelli all seasons...
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