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      11-03-2008, 01:53 AM   #1
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Question TC Kline Smart Design Coilover

I was just looking at TC Kline E92 M3 Smart Design Coilover system and couldn't find any info if it will work with EDC ...

Does anybody have this set up ?
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      02-19-2009, 01:50 PM   #2
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Just checked their site again and it looks like they have a few different systems for e92 M3s. Still didn't find any info about EDC ...
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Just checked their site again and it looks like they have a few different systems for e92 M3s. Still didn't find any info about EDC ...
EDC: Electronic Damping Control

Coil-overs replace the factory struts. Ergo, no it doesn't work with EDC.

You can install the system. It's from TCKline, so you know it's good, but you loose the EDC.
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Looks like someone finally came out with a single adjustable c/o system for our cars. The price seems good too at $1,665.

http://www.tcklineracing.com/suspension.htm

I think you'll still need to remove the rear shocks to adjust them though.

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If you have edc and get coilovers, say bye-bye to EDC... Had the D/A tck's on my E46 M3 and they were the best coils I've tried on the car! Great system!
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EDC: Electronic Damping Control

Coil-overs replace the factory struts. Ergo, no it doesn't work with EDC.

You can install the system. It's from TCKline, so you know it's good, but you loose the EDC.
I know that Joe, I just wasn't sure if they something like KW does for EDC ...

I heard many good things about them but never had a chance to try them o my car ...
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Fuck... I wish they made EDC compatable ones already. If I wasnt getting EDC I would be all over these in a heartbeat
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Looks like someone finally came out with a single adjustable c/o system for our cars. The price seems good too at $1,665.

http://www.tcklineracing.com/suspension.htm

I think you'll still need to remove the rear shocks to adjust them though.

Naw, the rears adjust by a turning the blade at the top of the shaft.
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So you don't need to fully compress the rear shocks in order to adjust them? That would be pretty sweet.
But you'd stll have to remove the shock mount though, right?
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So you don't need to fully compress the rear shocks in order to adjust them? That would be pretty sweet.
But you'd stll have to remove the shock mount though, right?
No. You just take the white plastic knob, place it on the top of the shaft (inside the trunk under a cover), and turn it.
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I had the TCK Smart Design D/A's on my e46 M3 and they were fantastic. I intend on getting TCKs for the e92 as well.

Regarding EDC, don't hold your breath. The last conversation I had with Pete at TCK, there was no intention of making an EDC-friendly kit. Still, I'm sure it's a fantastic setup.
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Couldn't you just buy the KW EDC units? Someone said they are separate from the coil overs and just there to prevent the fault code.
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I had the TCK Smart Design D/A's on my e46 M3 and they were fantastic. I intend on getting TCKs for the e92 as well.

Regarding EDC, don't hold your breath. The last conversation I had with Pete at TCK, there was no intention of making an EDC-friendly kit. Still, I'm sure it's a fantastic setup.
I talk to the owner last weekend at Infinion and learned a lot new about their suspension ... Some time soon they are going to have kit that will work with EDC ! They are working with some German company to make it happen

Look at car # 222 here

it is new 09 E90 M3 with their kit on the car and SSR wheels (TC is driving it)
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I talk to the owner last weekend at Infinion and learned a lot new about their suspension ... Some time soon they are going to have kit that will work with EDC ! They are working with some German company to make it happen

Look at car # 222 here

it is new 09 E90 M3 with their kit on the car and SSR wheels (TC is driving it)
Sweet. That's slammed! Their E46 M3 products are great and rock solid so the EDC compatible coilovers should be an instant hit.
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Sweet. That's slammed! Their E46 M3 products are great and rock solid so the EDC compatible coilovers should be an instant hit.
yeah ... as soon as it will be released i am planing take my car to them directly to install it
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I have coilovers on my car and after putting them on I am glad to have them, best mod for the money.

Anyway, the real reason why I posted was to ask a question. I dont remember where I herd it from, C&D, R&T or Fifth Gear but isn't it confirmed that the EDC "normal" mode is the fastest time around the track? If true wouldn't it make the option to go to a stiffer setting a useless option therefore eliminating the need for EDC all together?
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Anyway, the real reason why I posted was to ask a question. I dont remember where I herd it from, C&D, R&T or Fifth Gear but isn't it confirmed that the EDC "normal" mode is the fastest time around the track? If true wouldn't it make the option to go to a stiffer setting a useless option therefore eliminating the need for EDC all together?
Depending on the driving situation, EDC can adjust the dampers to yield more effective stiffness for transient response in normal than sport. That is what Larry Koch told me when I asked him about it in a BMW CCA event. Makes sense as that is what active suspension is for. EDC sport puts the dampers in passive mode, which means the computer sets the damping coefficient once and leaves it alone, whereas in the normal mode, the damping coefficient is being constantly adjusted.
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Anyway, the real reason why I posted was to ask a question. I dont remember where I herd it from, C&D, R&T or Fifth Gear but isn't it confirmed that the EDC "normal" mode is the fastest time around the track? If true wouldn't it make the option to go to a stiffer setting a useless option therefore eliminating the need for EDC all together?
I've heard the same thing. The "Normal" mode will actually make the suspension firmer than the FIRM setting if it senses you need it.
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Anyway, the real reason why I posted was to ask a question. I dont remember where I herd it from, C&D, R&T or Fifth Gear but isn't it confirmed that the EDC "normal" mode is the fastest time around the track? If true wouldn't it make the option to go to a stiffer setting a useless option therefore eliminating the need for EDC all together?
I ran Limerock in both 'Normal' and in 'Sport' and didn't notice much difference, although I chose to leave it in 'Sport' - I didn't want the suspension changing, I'd rather it be more predictable in the stiffer setting.
Perhaps I'll change it up this season and check it with my laptimer/logger.

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If this is true about the EDC compatible systems sign me up!!

TCK will have my money again the very second they are announced and on the market
I had the D/A system on my E46 and they were a dream around the track. I am completely sold on TCK's handling and the price point fits perfectly under moton
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If this is true about the EDC compatible systems sign me up!!

TCK will have my money again the very second they are announced and on the market
I had the D/A system on my E46 and they were a dream around the track. I am completely sold on TCK's handling and the price point fits perfectly under moton
Did you run without rear sways like they recommended for the E46?
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Did you run without rear sways like they recommended for the E46?
in autocross on my e46, i found that i'm faster without a rear sway

but in tracking, i prefer having my rear sway set in the middle with the rear shocks set to a half turn from full stiff.

it all depends on what u want

i have tck's with 550/600, gc sways, gc fcab, oem rtab with gc delrin shims
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