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      02-15-2009, 01:01 AM   #67
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It would be a shame to turn an M3 into a garage queen for several months every year. These cars are built for all weather, so long as there's enought clearance. Clean the underside at every opportunity and they'll easily last a couple of hundred thousand miles.

I worship my M3 by flogging it every chance I get. I warm it up like a race horse, but when it's ready it gets its head, summer and winter.

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believe me, the m is just a car really. Drive it the way it meant to be driven.
+1 I drive my car in the winter all the time
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+1 I drive my car in the winter all the time
Soooo tell me ... How did it handle in all that sunny winter sky?
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Soooo tell me ... How did it handle in all that sunny winter sky?
It was kind of sketchy at times, but the Michelin PS2s came through
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It was kind of sketchy at times, but the Michelin PS2s came through
The Pirelli Sotozero IIs are great on the in between weather, including cold/dry and ice. Here in the Denver area we get a lot of snow days, but then it dries up pretty quick and rarely stays on the road for more than a day. Of course, there's some hot/dry performance given up to the PS2, but surprisingly little (you wouldn't take these Pirellis to the track unless it was an ice race). The really shine in the dry cold, staying soft and compliant and don't feel squirmy.

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Heres my E90 M3 in our last snow storm.
Had it defrost in the garage overnight.
As you will see, i was plowing the snow pretty well.
I'm suprised i didnt get stuck.
This car is a little tractor in the snow.
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I just got my M back from a service appointment (reprogram CA keys) so it was nice and clean in the snow near my home. Unfortunately, I haven't figured out a winter setup yet so I'm still on stock 19's with summer tires(!). So today it's resting in the garage while we take out the wagon (535xiT).

In case anyone wonders how summer tires perform in winter... my driveway is about a .005% slope and I almost didn't make it into my garage! The compound gets so hard below freezing that it slips like crazy even on dry pavement. I can't wait to get a winter setup going so I can start DRIVING again!
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... and tucked away in it's "garage" (on my desk) is the only M that I don't want to drive in winter!
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3s-a-charm, where'd you get that model?

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they are all over eBAY. There are E92 and E93 only I believe...havent seen E90s but they should be there too!
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At the dealership... I asked my CA to get me one when I bought the car and he did. Great guy - JM Wong at Calgary BMW.
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You used to have that grey s5 right? i recognize the plates...i drove next to you before on hillside around nhp/mineola.....white modded 335.
Yeah dude I remember that 335i. Thing's beast...r u from nhp? cuz my cuz with a black shelby lives there, and I dont live too far. Btw, I got rid of the S5...just wasn't fast enough for me
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Gosh, love the snow. I am glad to see M3s' in the snow, and not wasted away in the garage.
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Gosh, love the snow. I am glad to see M3s' in the snow, and not wasted away in the garage.
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      02-19-2009, 07:23 PM   #83
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The Pirelli Sotozero IIs are great on the in between weather, including cold/dry and ice. Here in the Denver area we get a lot of snow days, but then it dries up pretty quick and rarely stays on the road for more than a day. Of course, there's some hot/dry performance given up to the PS2, but surprisingly little (you wouldn't take these Pirellis to the track unless it was an ice race). The really shine in the dry cold, staying soft and compliant and don't feel squirmy.

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thats whay i am using all into the city and back in montreal winters. car is surprisingly capable, climbing hills sometimes is a challenge though.
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you know, if you can afford an M3 with 5k worth of wheels, then you could probably spend 2500.00 on an older honda accord or something for winter driving. Such a shame to treat that nice car like that IMO
+ 1 I agree, I have my lexus GS for the winter with all seasons, shes been pretty good to me.

Plus driving the E93 in the winter is also not good for the rubber seals and mouldings in the roof and as per my shop foreman at the BMW dealer, they can detoriate over time at such extreme temp's creating windnoises, creaks, water leakage...etc etc.

The BMW warranty only goes to a certain extent to take care-off windnoises so dont wanna end up with those problems!

FYI: for those who are leasing I wouldn't care, but since I bought my car out and keeping it for a few years, I most certainly would like to take care of it and avoid salt at all costs
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Heres my E90 M3 in our last snow storm.
Had it defrost in the garage overnight.
As you will see, i was plowing the snow pretty well.
I'm suprised i didnt get stuck.
This car is a little tractor in the snow.


WOW! How did you not get stuck? I haven't got snow tires for mine yet (as I won't need them till next season) but I think if I saw that much I'd just stay at home and not risk getting my baby stuck (she is a daily driver though).
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FYI: for those who are leasing I wouldn't care, but since I bought my car out and keeping it for a few years, I most certainly would like to take care of it and avoid salt at all costs

I own. The car is designed to handle salt. Just wash the underside regularly and then very thoroughly in the spring. I expect to keep mine ten to fifteen years, as I usually do, and don't think that a little salt will ruin those plans.

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I own. The car is designed to handle salt. Just wash the underside regularly and then very thoroughly in the spring. I expect to keep mine ten to fifteen years, as I usually do, and don't think that a little salt will ruin those plans.

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Dave,

theres many reasons for someone like you to worry then, whos keeping there cars for 10-15 years:

1. Little Salt? I live in the GTA area, they use a lot of salt here!

2. Congested City - leads to higher chances of accidents! especially with the Gardiner, 401 and major regional highways we have around toronto!
I know even in summer there is a lot of cars on the road, but there is less chances of some idiot who makes a miscalculation and crashes into your new m3

3. If you drive a vert, its a fact over time the seals in the roof will start to detoriate and the car will develop wind noises and creaks...as per the shop foreman at my dealer.

So in the end if i have a second car to drive why not?
I rest my case
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Dave,

theres many reasons for someone like you to worry then, whos keeping there cars for 10-15 years:

1. Little Salt? I live in the GTA area, they use a lot of salt here!

2. Congested City - leads to higher chances of accidents! especially with the Gardiner, 401 and major regional highways we have around toronto!
I know even in summer there is a lot of cars on the road, but there is less chances of some idiot who makes a miscalculation and crashes into your new m3

3. If you drive a vert, its a fact over time the seals in the roof will start to detoriate and the car will develop wind noises and creaks...as per the shop foreman at my dealer.

So in the end if i have a second car to drive why not?
I rest my case

What a bunch of crap. It's just a car. It's meant to be driven, not worshipped. I rest my case.

You DO indeed cite some good reasons not to own a 'vert. Those things will happen no matter what you do AND it weighs a bunch more.

Enjoy your POS Honda.

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