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| 12-13-2008, 02:37 PM | #1 |
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Nitrogen in tires
Nitrogen in tires is becoming a popular replacement for standard air. Nitrogen is all around us... the air we breathe is 78% nitrogen, 21% oxygen and the rest is small amounts of other gasses. When it comes to tire inflation, nitrogen has many advantages over oxygen. With nitrogen tire inflation, improvements can be noted in a vehicle's handling, fuel efficiency and tire life through better tire pressure retention, improved fuel economy and cooler running tire temperatures.
A colorless, odorless, and tasteless gas , nitrogen could cost you as much as $10 a tire. Most expensive air filled in my m3 tires.. I paid 40 dollars plus tax at the Fairfax BMW Service.. do any of you have one? |
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| 12-13-2008, 03:08 PM | #2 | |
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Nitrogen will NOT reduce tread wear, which is the typical reason for tires wearing out. What nitrogen will do is escape from the tire about 50% slower than air (from the studies I've seen). This is not a factor if you check and adjust your air pressures on a reasonable schedule (e.g., once a month). It is purported that nitrogen will not oxidize the inside of the tire as fast as air, but this is such a slow process that physical wear will claim the tire first, and the outside of the tire is subject to more oxidation from the sun and atmosphere. Nitrogen for street use is just a profit item for dealers.
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| 12-13-2008, 10:47 PM | #3 |
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Garage List 2012 Trek Madone 5.2 [0.00]
2009 e92 M3 DCT CF ... [5.00] 2009 + 2004 Trek - ... [5.00] 2008 e92 M3 6MT (Up ... [5.00] 2002 e46 M3 Cabriol ... [3.00] 2006 e90-325i (DD) [3.50] 2002 e39 M5 (retired) [4.75] |
even some Costco places are putting on Nitro on their tire changes too.
but havent tried it yet
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| 12-13-2008, 11:05 PM | #4 |
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As I stated, it's just a gimmick for street use. It is a superior fill, but tires in street use won't know it from air. Extreme conditions as in hard track use or racing is a different story.
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| 12-16-2008, 01:48 PM | #5 |
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Greg is right. Dont waste your time or money. Unless of course you are filling track tires, then spend the extra money.
I had to replace my rear tires after 4500 miles due to nails. Nitrogen would not have prevented that.
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| 12-17-2008, 12:48 PM | #7 |
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I assume that was tongue in cheek! Certainly no disadvantage to pure nitrogen, other than cost. My ulitimate garage would have a nitrogen generator in it!
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| 12-17-2008, 01:33 PM | #9 |
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Nitrogen source for tires
You can get a cylinder of nitrogen for that much, but don't think there are generators that inexpensive.
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| 01-14-2009, 12:55 PM | #10 |
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Garage List 2012 Trek Madone 5.2 [0.00]
2009 e92 M3 DCT CF ... [5.00] 2009 + 2004 Trek - ... [5.00] 2008 e92 M3 6MT (Up ... [5.00] 2002 e46 M3 Cabriol ... [3.00] 2006 e90-325i (DD) [3.50] 2002 e39 M5 (retired) [4.75] |
cant see paying $30 a dealer for it either, but if they put it in Pro-Bono I wont mind seeing the difference
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| 01-19-2009, 09:03 PM | #12 | |
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Garage List 2012 Trek Madone 5.2 [0.00]
2009 e92 M3 DCT CF ... [5.00] 2009 + 2004 Trek - ... [5.00] 2008 e92 M3 6MT (Up ... [5.00] 2002 e46 M3 Cabriol ... [3.00] 2006 e90-325i (DD) [3.50] 2002 e39 M5 (retired) [4.75] |
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![]() lol EDIT ADD: found out MR. TIRES uses nitrogen too ![]()
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| 02-02-2009, 10:56 AM | #13 |
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Garage List 2012 Trek Madone 5.2 [0.00]
2009 e92 M3 DCT CF ... [5.00] 2009 + 2004 Trek - ... [5.00] 2008 e92 M3 6MT (Up ... [5.00] 2002 e46 M3 Cabriol ... [3.00] 2006 e90-325i (DD) [3.50] 2002 e39 M5 (retired) [4.75] |
Still think Nitro is better after checking my warm tires yesterday, it creep up by as much as 5psi
![]() I think its definitely worth it, if it keeps the the tire in fairly constant pressure most of the time, but now wondering how much Tire shops charges to put them in for you if you didnt buy the tires there
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