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      11-26-2008, 04:54 AM   #23
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A salesman from my dealer who I'm friends with took these pics.
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      11-26-2008, 04:56 AM   #24
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I think it looks much better with the angel eyes on. Some aftermarket vendor should replicate that blacked-out bumper and/or make a widebody kit like this, but in a toned-down manner. You know, none of the slats or anything.
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Has anyone heard how much HP its producing?
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      11-26-2008, 09:00 AM   #26
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      11-26-2008, 09:17 AM   #27
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      11-26-2008, 10:52 AM   #28
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can i trade my m3 for that m3? i dont mind all those ad's on it. lol!

god damn, it's nice!
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      11-26-2008, 12:24 PM   #29
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anyone wanna try putting the same rear spoiler on their e92's?? hehe..hope it doesnt stay white for the races..does look a bit dull imo..
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      11-26-2008, 01:21 PM   #30
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anyone wanna try putting the same rear spoiler on their e92's?? hehe..hope it doesnt stay white for the races..does look a bit dull imo..
funny, how you mentioned the wing. it looks fine on the track.....but it's a different story on normal roads!
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      11-26-2008, 07:25 PM   #32
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      11-26-2008, 07:28 PM   #33
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Yeah, I recall some discussion on this when the car debuted. The clutch would be kinda cool for launching the car. Does it have any functionality when shifting on the move? I am curious how it all works.
Obviously I have no personal experience with this particular car, but in typical sequential race transmissions, the clutch pedal is only for launching the car. Once you're rolling, you just bang the lever to shift it. On downshifts, you do blip the throttle to get the shift, but without clutch--even when you're on the brakes.
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Obviously I have no personal experience with this particular car, but in typical sequential race transmissions, the clutch pedal is only for launching the car. Once you're rolling, you just bang the lever to shift it. On downshifts, you do blip the throttle to get the shift, but without clutch--even when you're on the brakes.
Cool, that's about what I figured, thanks. Must be a hoot to drive one.
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Obviously I have no personal experience with this particular car, but in typical sequential race transmissions, the clutch pedal is only for launching the car. Once you're rolling, you just bang the lever to shift it. On downshifts, you do blip the throttle to get the shift, but without clutch--even when you're on the brakes.
Actually a Porsche driver in the ALMS stated that he clutches when he downshifts so that he can perform said throttle blip. Otherwise he'd be blipping the throttle with a lower gear engaged.

The fight won't really start till Corvette moves to GT2.
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      11-27-2008, 01:20 AM   #36
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485 i've been told

the true hp will really never be known to the general public...

but i can tell you that its over 500hp.... you need that to be competitive in the ALMS gt2 class...
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      11-27-2008, 01:48 AM   #37
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Actually a Porsche driver in the ALMS stated that he clutches when he downshifts so that he can perform said throttle blip. Otherwise he'd be blipping the throttle with a lower gear engaged.

The fight won't really start till Corvette moves to GT2.
the porsche trannys are 'dated' for lack of better words... and dont have the ability to match revs on downshifts using the ecu.. so your foot does the work.. you can actually downshift without using the clutch on a qualifier lap or something like that by using force... but its bad for the tranny and wont help in a enduro race situation for reliability....

the tranny in the M3 im sure is more like the Ferrari GT2 trannys.. but prob not as good... as those you can actually pre downshift before you even start braking.. then when you hit the brakes the ecu takes over and does everything for you...

for instance.. your on a long front straight and the next turn is a 3 gear turn... so u clik the left paddle 3 times.... but nothing will happen.. then a couple hundred feet later when you brake... .. bom... bom.......bom...... your in 3rd and ready to rock and roll....

i did notice the same shift knob thats used in the ALMS M3 car is in the Bimmerworld SPEED TC cars... so i assume the transmission manufacturer is the same... i googled the hell out of it to try to see what sequential trannys they use.. but i guess they dont want anyone to know.... i found nothing..


ive also read that the M3 alms car tranny is oil and water cooled... and did anyone notice in the incar pics that the pole connected to the shifter was going to the back of the car?.. plus those weird air vents behind the doors... what back there could possibly need that much cooling?

i think the tranny is located in the rear of the car....
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The fight won't really start till Corvette moves to GT2.

there was a hell of a fight last year... 1 race the vettes were even slower then the GT2 cars!.. and they were GT1...





gt2 next year is going to be fantastic.... the top ALMS teams are more worried about the M3 then the other 'new' cars...
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the arriver drivers Andy Priaulx and Jörg Müller drove the test. it think they on board to @ drivers section
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I'm hopeful for the ALMS M3s, but I think in 2009 they will play catch up with the established 430s and GT3s.
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Do you know its weight 1200kg or 1400kg for this race series?
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Do you know its weight 1200kg or 1400kg for this race series?
1150kg and 'just'485BHP.

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the true hp will really never be known to the general public...

but i can tell you that its over 500hp.... you need that to be competitive in the ALMS gt2 class...
http://www.autosportblog.com/2008/Ma...dy-to-Race.htm
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there was a hell of a fight last year... 1 race the vettes were even slower then the GT2 cars!.. and they were GT1...





gt2 next year is going to be fantastic.... the top ALMS teams are more worried about the M3 then the other 'new' cars...
Wow... one race... maybe there was a mechanical problem? That doesn't mean anything unless you tell the whole story.

And if you think the Porsche transmission is outdated... think again. That was one of the biggest reasons why they took the ALMS championsihp from Ferrari after a disappointing 2007.

Which top ALMS teams are afraid of BMW? When they left in 2001 and came back a few years ago (with team PTG) they were NOWHERE near competitive. Hence their switch to Panoz for the time being
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