Eibach Pro Kit installed in an E90 M3 with EDC - Page 2

ebohon · 11-12-2008, 02:40 AM

Looks good! The drop I'm looking for... keeping it civil while reducing that gap.

I've been leaning towards the Eibachs over the H&Rs for a couple of diff reasons and your drop confirms the look I'm looking for...but, if you don't mind, can you clarify something... you mentioned in your first post that the suspension felt softer in Comfort and not much different in others....coming from a Lexus... I def don't want to go to a softer suspension. I know you like the better turn in and the car feels planted at speed (but the car feels stable with stock also) .. can't the turn in response also be achieved with adjustments to camber, toe-in/out, etc. on stock springs? ... just want to make sure I'm not softening up the suspensions with Eibach because of your first comment. Thanks!

MrHarris · 11-12-2008, 04:25 AM

I'm worried about that too, also worried about how messed up the rebound will be with the shocks being compressed more and not being at optimal position.

Technic · 11-12-2008, 06:41 AM

I think that a better word should have been compliant instead of "softer", as in less impact harshness from the same road bumps (there are some speed bumps and rairoad tracks close to my driving routes that don't feel as harsh as before the spring install), but it is still an "M3 ride" and not a sudden Lexus ride, if you get my drift.

It is still a very sharp handler, and I have not aligned it yet.

This was the same effect -and the reason to get Eibachs again- as when I installed a Pro Kit to my old E46 M3. The ride became more compliant in regular driving but at the same time more controlled and stable at hard turns:

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Originally Posted by ebohon

Looks good! The drop I'm looking for... keeping it civil while reducing that gap.

I've been leaning towards the Eibachs over the H&Rs for a couple of diff reasons and your drop confirms the look I'm looking for...but, if you don't mind, can you clarify something... you mentioned in your first post that the suspension felt softer in Comfort and not much different in others....coming from a Lexus... I def don't want to go to a softer suspension. I know you like the better turn in and the car feels planted at speed (but the car feels stable with stock also) .. can't the turn in response also be achieved with adjustments to camber, toe-in/out, etc. on stock springs? ... just want to make sure I'm not softening up the suspensions with Eibach because of your first comment. Thanks!

ebohon · 11-12-2008, 11:28 AM

Thanks! That makes more sense. I have Eibachs on my Lexus IS now and I agree about the effect. With the old springs, the car seemed to roll quiet a bit. I think Eibach builds their springs progressive (non-linear???) with a bit of softness on the first fraction of compression and quickly stiffens IMO for spirited driving. Ed.

asaulo1 · 11-12-2008, 12:53 PM

what wheels are those? specs please.... looks good.....

Technic · 11-12-2008, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ebohon

Thanks! That makes more sense. I have Eibachs on my Lexus IS now and I agree about the effect. With the old springs, the car seemed to roll quiet a bit. I think Eibach builds their springs progressive (non-linear???) with a bit of softness on the first fraction of compression and quickly stiffens IMO for spirited driving. Ed.

Yes, that's what it is... but it seems that in this E9x M3 ProKit version only the front springs are progressive and the rears are linear.

Technic · 11-12-2008, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by asaulo1

what wheels are those? specs please.... looks good.....

VMR CSL replicas... 19 x 8.5 ET20 fronts, 19 x 9.5 ET22 rears; there is a 10mm spacer installed in the rear.

Thanks

mdrobc13 · 12-05-2008, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Technic

VMR CSL replicas... 19 x 8.5 ET20 fronts, 19 x 9.5 ET22 rears; there is a 10mm spacer installed in the rear.

Thanks

What tires did you go with?

montreal red · 12-05-2008, 11:25 PM

looking good!

Technic · 12-06-2008, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by mdrobc13

What tires did you go with?

General UHP in 245/35 and 275/30 (F & R)...

Technic · 12-06-2008, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by montreal jet black

looking good!

Thanks...

mdrobc13 · 12-08-2008, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Technic

General UHP in 245/35 and 275/30 (F & R)...

Are they all season? How do you like em compared to your OEM stock Pilot Sports PS2? How does your set up drive over stock? Any complaints with the Eilbachs either? I am thinking on doing the same tire set up and going Eilbach springs as well but I have a coupe. Thanks

Technic · 12-08-2008, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by mdrobc13

Are they all season? How do you like em compared to your OEM stock Pilot Sports PS2? How does your set up drive over stock? Any complaints with the Eilbachs either? I am thinking on doing the same tire set up and going Eilbach springs as well but I have a coupe. Thanks

The UHP used to be rated All Season but now they are Summer (Tire Rack).

My car came with the 18" Pilots so a comparison with the 19" UHPs is not going to be too objective or fair. What I know is that the UHP are excellent tires for the price, they stick and handle like they cost two times as much, are not noisy at all and they last some 30,000+ miles easily. Currently I have them installed in this M3, and in a Passat B6, and before that in a MKV GTI and in an E46 M3.

The same with the Eibachs... that's the only aftermarket spring that I install in my cars ('87 323, '90 Protegé, '93 318i, '96 Z3, '98 323iC, '04 M3, '07 GTI). They just work like OEM but lower and sharper. No issues with busted shocks at all, never, nada... that '93 318i rode them over 60,000 miles and still they were tight.

gthirtyfizle · 12-08-2008, 05:56 PM

Sounds great. I just got these in. Will install them tom and put up some pics.

NLMiami · 12-18-2008, 09:04 PM

Anyone have issues with the Eibach springs and 15mm spacers causing OEM 19" rims to rub??

GregW / Oregon · 12-18-2008, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Technic

Sorry, I was not going to to jack the car up using the differential as a jacking point... that's not designed for that purpose.

However, I did not see that rear jacking point that you are describing.

Well, simple way is to jack one side, support on a stand, then jack the other and do the same. Hope you don't work under the car without stands. Any way, result is very nice. I may have to look into this mod. Maybe I missed it, did you say where you got the kit from?

Technic · 12-18-2008, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by GregW / Oregon

Well, simple way is to jack one side, support on a stand, then jack the other and do the same. Hope you don't work under the car without stands. Any way, result is very nice. I may have to look into this mod. Maybe I missed it, did you say where you got the kit from?

"Simple" wasn't that quick enough that day, as I started relatively late...

I ordered the kit from drivewire.com. Price has been increased by $50, though...

Technic · 03-22-2009, 03:55 PM

The CSL replicas are gone... OEM ZHP rears in all four corners are in, and the car settled a little bit more since this thread was created (sorry for the photos quality, I had to resize the images):

STI · 03-24-2009, 09:50 AM

very nice ride, and the wheels are exceptional! one question tho, how does the edc feel in the sport setting? is it also softer like in the comfort mode?

Technic · 03-24-2009, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by STI

very nice ride, and the wheels are exceptional! one question tho, how does the edc feel in the sport setting? is it also softer like in the comfort mode?

Thanks!

It is slightly softer/better in Comfort and I don't feel any difference in Sport...

STI · 03-25-2009, 02:04 PM

thanks for the reply Technic, I think I might also go with the eibach springs since where I live the roads aren't very good and the H&R would drop to much the car

dds02400 · 03-25-2009, 06:45 PM

here is my Eibach pro too...

i like it, i tihnk the drop is perfect for me.

11-12-2008, 02:40 AM	#23
ebohon Second Lieutenant Drives: 2009 M3 Coupe, 6MT Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Anaheim Hills, CA Posts: 251 iTrader: (2)	Looks good! The drop I'm looking for... keeping it civil while reducing that gap. I've been leaning towards the Eibachs over the H&Rs for a couple of diff reasons and your drop confirms the look I'm looking for...but, if you don't mind, can you clarify something... you mentioned in your first post that the suspension felt softer in Comfort and not much different in others....coming from a Lexus... I def don't want to go to a softer suspension. I know you like the better turn in and the car feels planted at speed (but the car feels stable with stock also) .. can't the turn in response also be achieved with adjustments to camber, toe-in/out, etc. on stock springs? ... just want to make sure I'm not softening up the suspensions with Eibach because of your first comment. Thanks! __________________ 2009 M3 : 6MT : Carbon : Silverstone : Fox Red Novilo : Aluminum Trim : Tech Package : iPod : MODS: Performance Spoiler: Clear Reflectors : H&Rs : Escort 9500ix hardwired : Tint : Macht Schnell Filter : RPI Scoops : Rogue Pulley : Fabspeed resonated x-pipe with Remus Race : ESS Tune: TVinMotion

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11-12-2008, 11:28 AM	#26
ebohon Second Lieutenant Drives: 2009 M3 Coupe, 6MT Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Anaheim Hills, CA Posts: 251 iTrader: (2)	Thanks! That makes more sense. I have Eibachs on my Lexus IS now and I agree about the effect. With the old springs, the car seemed to roll quiet a bit. I think Eibach builds their springs progressive (non-linear???) with a bit of softness on the first fraction of compression and quickly stiffens IMO for spirited driving. Ed. __________________ 2009 M3 : 6MT : Carbon : Silverstone : Fox Red Novilo : Aluminum Trim : Tech Package : iPod : MODS: Performance Spoiler: Clear Reflectors : H&Rs : Escort 9500ix hardwired : Tint : Macht Schnell Filter : RPI Scoops : Rogue Pulley : Fabspeed resonated x-pipe with Remus Race : ESS Tune: TVinMotion

11-12-2008, 12:53 PM	#27
asaulo1 Lieutenant Drives: 2008 M3 Coupe, alp white Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Santa Clarita, CA. Posts: 565 iTrader: (0)	what wheels are those? specs please.... looks good..... __________________ "What a car.... what a masterpiece...." Jeremy Clarkson

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montreal red chris Drives: Green Frog Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Montreal Posts: 12,081 iTrader: (31)	looking good! __________________ 997.1 GT3RS 2009 WRX STI e92 M3 (gone)

12-08-2008, 05:56 PM	#36
gthirtyfizle Colonel Drives: E92 M3 AW Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: NYC Posts: 2,588 iTrader: (4)	Sounds great. I just got these in. Will install them tom and put up some pics.

12-18-2008, 09:04 PM	#37
NLMiami ///Menace 2 Society Drives: 2009 Jerez E92 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Fort Lauderdale Posts: 48 iTrader: (0)	Anyone have issues with the Eibach springs and 15mm spacers causing OEM 19" rims to rub??

03-22-2009, 03:55 PM	#40
Technic Major General Drives: 2012 E92 M3, 2010 CC Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Ft Lauderdale, Florida Posts: 9,805 iTrader: (13) Garage List 2004 M3 [0.00]	The CSL replicas are gone... OEM ZHP rears in all four corners are in, and the car settled a little bit more since this thread was created (sorry for the photos quality, I had to resize the images):

03-24-2009, 09:50 AM	#41
STI Enlisted Member Drives: M3 E46 & GDB STI Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Romania, Bucharest Posts: 42 iTrader: (0)	very nice ride, and the wheels are exceptional! one question tho, how does the edc feel in the sport setting? is it also softer like in the comfort mode?

03-25-2009, 02:04 PM	#43
STI Enlisted Member Drives: M3 E46 & GDB STI Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Romania, Bucharest Posts: 42 iTrader: (0)	thanks for the reply Technic, I think I might also go with the eibach springs since where I live the roads aren't very good and the H&R would drop to much the car

03-25-2009, 06:45 PM	#44
dds02400 Second Lieutenant Drives: m3 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: san jose Posts: 202 iTrader: (0)	here is my Eibach pro too... i like it, i tihnk the drop is perfect for me.

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