BMW Fascination I & II in E92 M3 with M-DCT

enfield · 09-28-2008, 05:46 PM

Hi guys - I am not an owner.... yet. I have a Z4M Coupe at this time. I did BMW's Fascination I & II Courses in the M3. BMW Driver Training is a great learning experience. I have done a number of their courses and I have become a much better driver. I specially recommend their Winter Driving Course for everyone!!

My take (& this is just my opinion) on the M3. By the way - this forum is first rate and my opinions are quite similar to what has already been expressed by many.

The noise is FANTASTIC! The S65 engine.... I am in love!

The M-DCT is a great piece of kit. I have a Z4M Coupe 6MT at this time. I will not hesitate and I will get the M-DCT. The gear changes are smooth. We drove in S5 and I did notice a slight lag in the gear changes. I was changing gears around 7K and I did not feel that the slight lag was a problem. The downshifts with rev matching were GLORIOUS!

I felt that the EDC is something I can do without. The car has great handling even in comfort mode. I also did not find the track mode to be too harsh with 19 inch wheels (even on Quebec public roads) - but then again I drive a Z4M Coupe

The brakes are pretty good. I think that the Z4M's brakes are better but then again the Z4M is lighter and it's brakes come from the E46 M3 CSL.

Anyway - that is just mt $0.02. Love the E92 M3. Love the M-DCT. I think I will get one.

A few pictures for you guys:

Me with a shit eating grin:

The Fascination I guys:

The Fascination II guys:

A few M3's:

addy85 · 09-28-2008, 06:41 PM

cool

JEllis · 09-28-2008, 06:47 PM

looks like fun

MJC///M3 · 09-28-2008, 07:35 PM

looks awesome

Zoli007 · 09-28-2008, 10:15 PM

Looks fun, what track is that?

chicagobimmerboy · 09-28-2008, 10:48 PM

cool, I'd like to be part of the line up

flyinggonzo · 09-28-2008, 11:22 PM

It's Tremblant. That looks like a lot of fun- I'll have to try fascination next year!

torredresen · 09-29-2008, 04:04 AM

Nice pix, nice review, nice tracking course with all the trees

Buy one , seriously,do it

KKSigua · 09-29-2008, 05:31 AM

awesome you must had a great time. lucky you

booforty · 09-29-2008, 05:37 AM

Nice write-up and thanks for posting the pics!

enfield · 09-29-2008, 06:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zoli007

Looks fun, what track is that?

Quote:

Originally Posted by flyinggonzo

It's Tremblant. That looks like a lot of fun- I'll have to try fascination next year!

Yep - The track is at Mont Tremblant. It is a nice course with lots of height changes and blind corners. There are also long stretches where we were getting slightly north of 200 kph and then rapidly reaching the braking zone. We also did some drifting excercises on the skid pad. That was also FUN!

It was a great learning experience and I loved the car as I said earlier. It was also a lot of fun. I met a couple of guys who come for the course on a yearly basis!!

Jack28 · 09-30-2008, 05:41 PM

Looks Like you had alot of Fun! Thanks for Sharing! I would love to do that! How can someone go about doing the training?

Thanks

Bimmer Nerd · 09-30-2008, 07:31 PM

very nice write up and pictures, looks like a TON of fun.

enfield · 09-30-2008, 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack28

Looks Like you had alot of Fun! Thanks for Sharing! I would love to do that! How can someone go about doing the training?

Thanks

There is a Driver Training section on www.bmw.ca that I used to get information and then sign up.

On www.bmwusa.com there is a link on the top right stating "Experience" just above 'search'. If you put your mouse on that then a window pops up and there is a choice for Performance Driving under events.

It is pricey but worth it in my opinion. Lots of people spend $$ trying to increase power using chips, superchargers, exhausts - but most people do not invest in improving their driving skills.

e46e92love · 10-01-2008, 01:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by enfield

Lots of people spend $$ trying to increase power using chips, superchargers, exhausts - but most people do not invest in improving their driving skills.

+1

Flat Out 32 · 10-01-2008, 10:32 PM

Those cars look great with the M stripes! They should make those an accessory as well as something in the F1-08 car for the non-Ms.

dawgdog · 10-02-2008, 06:45 AM

I''m very satisfied with my e92 DCT. With a software upgrade it could approach perfection. Initially I was not that impressed with edc, but after 4000 plus miles and several trips to the track for lapping days I can say that I am glad I have it.

MikeM5 · 10-03-2008, 01:13 PM

wow, very nice...looks like a GREAT time!

Dubois · 10-06-2008, 04:10 AM

Looks great! I will be doing this in the next few months. I completed Advanced II a couple of months back and made this video. We got to spend half the day in the M3's which was a little more than we were supposed to:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jbTZXy4Z2M

Deda · 10-06-2008, 05:09 AM

wow,that looks like very good fun!

enfield · 10-06-2008, 06:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dubois

Looks great! I will be doing this in the next few months. I completed Advanced II a couple of months back and made this video. We got to spend half the day in the M3's which was a little more than we were supposed to:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jbTZXy4Z2M

Nice video!! It is a lot of fun!!

09-28-2008, 05:46 PM	#1
enfield Civilian Drives: Range Rover Sport Supercharged Join Date: May 2007 Location: Ontario Posts: 926 iTrader: (0)	BMW Fascination I & II in E92 M3 with M-DCT Hi guys - I am not an owner.... yet. I have a Z4M Coupe at this time. I did BMW's Fascination I & II Courses in the M3. BMW Driver Training is a great learning experience. I have done a number of their courses and I have become a much better driver. I specially recommend their Winter Driving Course for everyone!! My take (& this is just my opinion) on the M3. By the way - this forum is first rate and my opinions are quite similar to what has already been expressed by many. The noise is FANTASTIC! The S65 engine.... I am in love! The M-DCT is a great piece of kit. I have a Z4M Coupe 6MT at this time. I will not hesitate and I will get the M-DCT. The gear changes are smooth. We drove in S5 and I did notice a slight lag in the gear changes. I was changing gears around 7K and I did not feel that the slight lag was a problem. The downshifts with rev matching were GLORIOUS! I felt that the EDC is something I can do without. The car has great handling even in comfort mode. I also did not find the track mode to be too harsh with 19 inch wheels (even on Quebec public roads) - but then again I drive a Z4M Coupe The brakes are pretty good. I think that the Z4M's brakes are better but then again the Z4M is lighter and it's brakes come from the E46 M3 CSL. Anyway - that is just mt $0.02. Love the E92 M3. Love the M-DCT. I think I will get one. A few pictures for you guys: Me with a shit eating grin: The Fascination I guys: The Fascination II guys: A few M3's: Last edited by enfield; 09-29-2008 at 06:12 AM.
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09-28-2008, 06:41 PM	#2
addy85 Got beef? Drives: E90 335i Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Arlington Texas Posts: 3,649 iTrader: (4) Garage List 2007 335i [0.00]	cool __________________ Special Thanks to AU335

09-28-2008, 06:47 PM	#3
JEllis Brigadier General Drives: E36 M3, 997S Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: San Diego Posts: 3,372 iTrader: (1)	looks like fun __________________

09-28-2008, 07:35 PM	#4
MJC///M3 Colonel Drives: 09 SSII E92 M3 Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Bronx, NYC Posts: 2,330 iTrader: (0)	looks awesome __________________ "You will get there, but it is up to you and you alone. It is what you are willing to do, and how you are willing to get there. You must be relentless, you must be tireless, you must pursue at all costs, so that you are ready, when the time is right." -Dad

09-28-2008, 10:15 PM	#5
Zoli007 Private First Class Drives: 2003 M5 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Davie Florida Posts: 154 iTrader: (0)	Looks fun, what track is that? __________________

09-28-2008, 10:48 PM	#6
chicagobimmerboy First Lieutenant Drives: Un esotico Italiano ;) Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Chicago suburbs Posts: 363 iTrader: (0)	cool, I'd like to be part of the line up

09-28-2008, 11:22 PM	#7
flyinggonzo Private First Class Drives: 2008 M3 Sedan Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Toronto Posts: 159 iTrader: (-1)	It's Tremblant. That looks like a lot of fun- I'll have to try fascination next year! __________________ 2008 BMW E90 M3 - Interlagos Blue/Silver Covillo - no mods yet! 2004 VW Touareg V8 - Blue Silver Metallic/Black - no mods yet!

09-29-2008, 04:04 AM	#8
torredresen Captain Drives: M3 09 E93 JzB Fox Red extended Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Belgium Posts: 712 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2005 Z4; 2.0 [0.00] 2005 Z4 [0.00]	Nice pix, nice review, nice tracking course with all the trees Buy one , seriously,do it

09-29-2008, 05:31 AM	#9
KKSigua Forever Modding! Drives: 08 JZB M3, M-DCT Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 1,068 iTrader: (4)	awesome you must had a great time. lucky you __________________ Advan F7, Vorst. GTS3 Bumper, Deck lid, AA Pulley, ECU 1.5, X-Pipe w/HFC, Eisenmann Black Series Race, CF Grills,Vents,Mirrors, BMW Perf. Steering Wheel, 09 iDrive Knob, Alum. Pedals, Euro Rear Fog & Side Mirrors, Lux H8, F1 Tint, Ventureshield, EAS Mirror Mod, , Gruppe M CAI, Dinan 3.62, Stage 3 susp. ACS CF side skirt, Escort 9500ix, Challenge CF rear diffuser, Kics R40 Stud Conv. Kit, Alekshop F&R Cam.

09-29-2008, 05:37 AM	#10
booforty Major General Drives: E92 M3 Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: London, UK Posts: 8,813 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2008 E92 M3 [0.00]	Nice write-up and thanks for posting the pics!

09-30-2008, 05:41 PM	#12
Jack28 HUSTLER Drives: E46 M3-E92 M3 Join Date: May 2006 Location: So/Ca Los Angeles Posts: 1,319 iTrader: (0)	Looks Like you had alot of Fun! Thanks for Sharing! I would love to do that! How can someone go about doing the training? Thanks __________________ E92 M3 ZCP- AW/FR w/Extended Leather) Packages: ZCP, 6MT, Fully Loaded E46 M3 - AW/IR 6 Spd, Fully Loaded. 19'' BBS LM DBK, V-CSL C/F Bmpr, Botld, Diff, V-CSL Custum IR-CF Center Counsel, V-GTR Hood, Dixis Ti 76mm, Meisterschaft Ti Sec. 1&2, EvoSport Headers, CAI, D/A Chip, tck d/a, Alcantera Headliner with Imola Red Sttitching....

09-30-2008, 07:31 PM	#13
Bimmer Nerd I \| L Photography Drives: E46 M3 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Los angeles, ~818~ Posts: 7,420 iTrader: (11)	very nice write up and pictures, looks like a TON of fun.

10-01-2008, 10:32 PM	#16
Flat Out 32 First Lieutenant Drives: my feet. Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: South FL Posts: 372 iTrader: (2)	Those cars look great with the M stripes! They should make those an accessory as well as something in the F1-08 car for the non-Ms. __________________ Georgie Vazquez Mayaguez, PR R.I.P. 335i, 010 135i here!

10-02-2008, 06:45 AM	#17
dawgdog Colonel Drives: 08 e92 M3 dct Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Seattle, Wa. Posts: 2,075 iTrader: (0)	I''m very satisfied with my e92 DCT. With a software upgrade it could approach perfection. Initially I was not that impressed with edc, but after 4000 plus miles and several trips to the track for lapping days I can say that I am glad I have it. __________________ AW on Fox Red Extended, Alum trim, ZPP, ZTP, DCT, 19" wheels, Heated front seats, HD radio, Sat radio, I-pod & usb, Premium sound, AP racing BBK, 18 Volk Racing TE 37s, Akrapovic Evolution exhaust, AST suspension

10-03-2008, 01:13 PM	#18
MikeM5 Drives: E90 M3 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 827 iTrader: (6)	wow, very nice...looks like a GREAT time! __________________ UNSCENE MEDIA GROUP 08 E90 M3 \| 13 ZC6 BRZ-L

10-06-2008, 04:10 AM	#19
Dubois Private Drives: 335i M Sport//TitaniuM Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 61 iTrader: (0)	Looks great! I will be doing this in the next few months. I completed Advanced II a couple of months back and made this video. We got to spend half the day in the M3's which was a little more than we were supposed to: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jbTZXy4Z2M __________________ 335i M-Sport TiAg - Auto paddleshift / Black Dakota / 225M Rims / Logic 7 / USB Interface / No Sunroof Other Ride - Subaru Liberty 3.0R Spec B Wagon

10-06-2008, 05:09 AM	#20
Deda Major General Drives: BMW X6 35d Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Croatia Posts: 6,400 iTrader: (0)	wow,that looks like very good fun!

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