Lowering M3

SmokeyJoe · 09-10-2008, 09:24 AM

I am thinking about lowering my M3 with the H&R spring .6R and 1.0F. Honestly doing this for looks. But I don't want to be negativly effecting my performance. I do plan to track the car soon, not to hard just some casual days at the track. I do drive it hard on the autobahn. I have EDC and usually leave it in Normal or Comfort.

So guys who have lowered there cars, can you tell me what you think of performance and comfort afterwards?

If you have EDC and it still functions well, which brand of spring did you use?

Thanx Guys

Radiation Joe · 09-10-2008, 09:45 AM

Try reading this thread. It looks like the H&R springs work well with the EDC.

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=149729

synclastica_86 · 09-10-2008, 09:48 AM

I've never modified just for looks, but if you are not concerned with the performance, wouldn't a body kit that extends lower ba a better choice?

gadget · 09-10-2008, 09:52 AM

he height is what it is for a reason. BMW did a lot of testing in their wind tunnel. Clearly height would be something they would optimize. I believe the M is higher than the 335 for a reason.

SmokeyJoe · 09-10-2008, 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gadget

he height is what it is for a reason. BMW did a lot of testing in their wind tunnel. Clearly height would be something they would optimize. I believe the M is higher than the 335 for a reason.

I have also been curious about this myself. I have also been thinking about the front spoiler as well. But my dealer told me how well the engineering is for aero dynamics I have been hesitant.

But I love the look of these dropped M3's on here. If there is a performance gain with the springs I think I will go for it. I would really like to here from some others with the springs.

Anyway time to hit the autobahn

!Xoible · 09-10-2008, 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by synclastica_86

I've never modified just for looks, but if you are not concerned with the performance, wouldn't a body kit that extends lower ba a better choice?

how does a body kit close the wheel gap?

SlammedM6 · 09-10-2008, 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ///Mantis

how does a body kit close the wheel gap?

+10000000

It doesn't
dont do a body kit, lowering your M is fine.
EDC works great with H&R - no problems at all.

First mod I did was lowering with H&R
GO FOR IT!

MDCTFTW · 09-10-2008, 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gadget

he height is what it is for a reason. BMW did a lot of testing in their wind tunnel. Clearly height would be something they would optimize. I believe the M is higher than the 335 for a reason.

You don't think it's for the cooling fins on the LSD?

!Xoible · 09-10-2008, 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slammedm3

+10000000

It doesn't
dont do a body kit, lowering your M is fine.
EDC works great with H&R - no problems at all.

First mod I did was lowering with H&R
GO FOR IT!

how long have u had them? how's the ride? from my H&R experience the ride deteriorated over a few months. just got very jumpy and bouncy.

to best compare get in a stock M3 and see if u feel much different

synclastica_86 · 09-10-2008, 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ///Mantis

how does a body kit close the wheel gap?

I look into performance a lot more... I hardly do anythings for looks (except getting rid of the orange markers... they are ugly)... So forgive me if i say something stupid...

But can't you use bigger rims to close the wheel gap?

!Xoible · 09-10-2008, 01:26 PM

bigger wheels wont necessarily fill the gap.

rzm3 · 09-10-2008, 02:10 PM

The overall diameter of the tires/wheels must be maintained to a certain degree. Otherwise DSC may not work effectively, if at all. Hence, bigger wheels usually require lower profile tires to maintain the overall diameter. Hence they wont close the gap.

IWC Doppel · 09-10-2008, 02:23 PM

I have done 7,000 mile on H&R's and the car still feels fantastic. Forget the looks the car rides and feels BETTER on the H&R springs, the looks are a bonus.

It was truly awesome round the ring. I hit 160mph in Germany and the car felt very planted and superb. I spent an hour between 110 and 150 mph, no issues at all, awesome set up. I can confidently load up the suspension at 120+mph which is normally a challenge for a road car....

ModBargains.com · 09-10-2008, 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyJoe

I am thinking about lowering my M3 with the H&R spring .6R and 1.0F. Honestly doing this for looks. But I don't want to be negativly effecting my performance. I do plan to track the car soon, not to hard just some casual days at the track. I do drive it hard on the autobahn. I have EDC and usually leave it in Normal or Comfort.

So guys who have lowered there cars, can you tell me what you think of performance and comfort afterwards?

If you have EDC and it still functions well, which brand of spring did you use?

Thanx Guys

I've heard great things about the H&R Springs. We've sold plenty and heard only great reviews. Plus, I don't think adding these springs will negatively affect your performance in handling. It will give you a lower center of gravity, so I don't see why this wouldn't be a good starting mod

OverDrive · 09-10-2008, 08:16 PM

it sucks that M3's aren't low enough as a factory thing.

JetBlack5OC · 09-10-2008, 11:18 PM

The Eibach Pro-kits may be the way to go. Member PencilGeek has them on his coupe. They don't lower the car as much as the H&R's.

Front -0.8 Rear -0.6

schnell325 · 09-11-2008, 12:30 AM

So tempting. And I hope everyone's dealer will be "spring" friendly if there's ever an issue....

SmokeyJoe · 09-11-2008, 01:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JetBlack5OC

The Eibach Pro-kits may be the way to go. Member PencilGeek has them on his coupe. They don't lower the car as much as the H&R's.

Front -0.8 Rear -0.6

I just found these last night and was thinking maybe there the way to go. I had eibachs before and didnt like them, but that was along time ago on a chevy.

IWC Doppel · 09-11-2008, 01:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyJoe

I just found these last night and was thinking maybe there the way to go. I had eibachs before and didnt like them, but that was along time ago on a chevy.

They might be great BUT the H&R's are -1, -.6 but definately a proven formula as far as I am concerned

SlammedM6 · 09-11-2008, 08:01 AM

I'd go H&R before Eibach,

Well I did!

KKSigua · 09-11-2008, 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slammedm3

I'd go H&R before Eibach,

Well I did!

+1 on H&R springs over Eibach plus they match well with H&R spacers which I am getting

IWC Doppel · 09-11-2008, 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KKSigua

+1 on H&R springs over Eibach plus they match well with H&R spacers which I am getting

I love the set up with 10mm spacers all round, works and look s great

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gadget Major Drives: 09 e92///M SSII DCT Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: US Posts: 1,165 iTrader: (0)	he height is what it is for a reason. BMW did a lot of testing in their wind tunnel. Clearly height would be something they would optimize. I believe the M is higher than the 335 for a reason.

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IWC Doppel Private First Class Drives: 08 M3 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: London Posts: 176 iTrader: (0)	I have done 7,000 mile on H&R's and the car still feels fantastic. Forget the looks the car rides and feels BETTER on the H&R springs, the looks are a bonus. It was truly awesome round the ring. I hit 160mph in Germany and the car felt very planted and superb. I spent an hour between 110 and 150 mph, no issues at all, awesome set up. I can confidently load up the suspension at 120+mph which is normally a challenge for a road car....

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JetBlack5OC Captain Drives: E60&E92 Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: west Posts: 983 iTrader: (0)	The Eibach Pro-kits may be the way to go. Member PencilGeek has them on his coupe. They don't lower the car as much as the H&R's. Front -0.8 Rear -0.6

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