BMW M3 Forum (E90 E92)

BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read


Go Back   M3Post - BMW M3 Forum > E90/E92 M3 Technical Topics > Wheels + Tires Sponsored by The Tire Rack
  TireRack

KEEP M3POST ALIVE BY DOING YOUR TIRERACK SHOPPING FROM THIS BANNER LINK!
Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      09-02-2008, 06:18 PM   #1
Eurotrash8
Captain
 
Eurotrash8's Avatar
 
Drives: 2008 E92 M3
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Calgary, Alberta

Posts: 623
iTrader: (4)

Best winter tire

Im in the market and want to know where I can go to find out reviews of which is the best winter tire.

TIA
Eurotrash8 is offline   Hong Kong
0
Reply With Quote
      09-02-2008, 07:23 PM   #2
Radiation Joe
Veni Vidi Vici
 
Radiation Joe's Avatar
 
Drives: '11 JB/BBe-6sp-e90
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Macungie PA

Posts: 2,749
iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2011 e90 M3-Sold  [4.25]
2003 RS6 - Sold  [0.00]
2009 e90 M3 - Gone  [0.00]
2003 M3 SOLD  [0.00]
old 2002  [5.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Eurotrash8 View Post
Im in the market and want to know where I can go to find out reviews of which is the best winter tire.

TIA
I'm sorry, but there is no "best" winter tire. It depends on your intended use, how much snow you get, how much ice you see, etc.

Try the Tire Rack.
__________________

Dinan compliment of stuff plus PF rotors and RG63s. Enough for now.
Why, yes. I am an abrasive bastard.
Radiation Joe is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      09-02-2008, 08:17 PM   #3
ideliver
Major
 
ideliver's Avatar
 
Drives: 08 E60 M5 & 08 Infiniti QX56
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: At the gas station

Posts: 1,232
iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2006 MB S430 SOLD  [0.00]
2003 E46 M3  [0.00]
Blizzak LM-22 for more regular performance...LM-25 for better winter/snow performance...

IDK about other brands but have driven both of these 22's my E46 M3 and 25's on MB S430
__________________
Cars I've owned '76 Chevelle 350 RIP '82 Monte Carlo 350 RIP '82 Mustang 302 RIP '88 Honda CRX RIP '88 Olds Toronado sold '94 Toyota Tercel sold '99 Acura TL sold 2002 Porsche 911 sold 2003 E46 M3 Blk/gr 2006 MB S430 sold Current: 2008 Infiniti QX56 & 2008 E60 M5

ideliver is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      09-03-2008, 01:12 AM   #4
gorun
Lieutenant
 
gorun's Avatar
 
Drives: W166 ML63 PP
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Where the roads are crap...

Posts: 512
iTrader: (0)

Dunlop M3s, best winter tire in recent years. Hakkas are better in deep snow and ice but I doubt you will be going there.
gorun is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      09-03-2008, 02:02 AM   #5
Big Windy
Major General
 
Big Windy's Avatar
 
Drives: audi s4
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: seatac, wa

Posts: 5,118
iTrader: (0)

Garage List
The Dunlops are great, also check out the Michelin Alpins. I'm planning to go with Dunlop M3s this time, but I had the Alpins last season on my 335i and they worked great.
Big Windy is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      09-03-2008, 02:35 AM   #6
sayemthree
Brigadier General
 
sayemthree's Avatar
 
Drives: bmw
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: usa

Posts: 4,844
iTrader: (0)

www. tire rack
sayemthree is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      09-03-2008, 07:38 AM   #7
xsilvor
Captain
 
xsilvor's Avatar
 
Drives: 2008 E92 M3
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Houston, TX

Posts: 825
iTrader: (2)

They hit it with tirerack.

Keep in mind, that in some cases, a decent set of all-seasons will perform 95% as well in the snow, but will also do well in other inclement weather situations, as a full-out winter tire. I love my Goodyear Eagle F1 All-Seasons, but I'm also using them year-round for now. I imagine in your area, you can get some snow/ice even once "winter" has passed and you're wanting to get decent performing tires back on the car - maybe check out some all seasons to last you through the winter and still have some fun during that winter-spring interim
xsilvor is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      09-03-2008, 08:25 AM   #8
bbrc76
Registered
 
Drives: '06 M3 'vert
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Chicago

Posts: 4
iTrader: (0)

I ran Michelin Pilot all seasons on my e46 330 all 12 mos of the year and they got me thru the winter but there were times in snow that I slid around a decent amount.

I currently run Dunlop Winter Sport M3s on my e46 M3 and they are excellent tires. I deal with snow on a regular basis in Chicago. You can safely drive highway speeds in bad conditions with them.

With the hp of the e9x M3, I'd strongly suggest dedicated winter tires.
bbrc76 is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      09-03-2008, 09:12 AM   #9
gorun
Lieutenant
 
gorun's Avatar
 
Drives: W166 ML63 PP
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Where the roads are crap...

Posts: 512
iTrader: (0)

All seasons are bad, dont be fooled!
gorun is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      09-03-2008, 09:37 AM   #10
Radiation Joe
Veni Vidi Vici
 
Radiation Joe's Avatar
 
Drives: '11 JB/BBe-6sp-e90
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Macungie PA

Posts: 2,749
iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2011 e90 M3-Sold  [4.25]
2003 RS6 - Sold  [0.00]
2009 e90 M3 - Gone  [0.00]
2003 M3 SOLD  [0.00]
old 2002  [5.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by gorun View Post
All seasons are bad, dont be fooled!
+1

Read the reviews on Tirerack. I imagine the temps in Calgary stay pretty low in the winter (below 0C for months). All season's won't cut it. I love my Michelin PA2s, but don't know how they compare with other tires. I drove on them every day in two Minnesota winters (very cold, not so much snow). If you spend much time traveling distances on the highway, I think the PA2s are quiet and ride well and wear like iron. They were good up to the point my car high sided in the snow.

It's warmer here in NY with significant quantities of snow. I'll drive on my partially worn PA2s for the first part of winter and then decide if I want to buy a different brand (because the PA2s will be worn out) for the rest of the winter.
__________________

Dinan compliment of stuff plus PF rotors and RG63s. Enough for now.
Why, yes. I am an abrasive bastard.
Radiation Joe is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      09-03-2008, 07:20 PM   #11
YuppieM3
Private First Class
 
YuppieM3's Avatar
 
Drives: 08 E92 M3 6MT
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: NY

Posts: 116
iTrader: (0)

tirerack doesn't list anything for winter tires when I plug in my car... how are you guys searching?
YuppieM3 is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      09-03-2008, 09:42 PM   #12
darkalley
Lieutenant
 
Drives: 2008 DCT SSII, 2006 SMG
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Current F150, 06 S2000, 08 911 c4s

Posts: 587
iTrader: (0)

I went with the dunlop's and was very happy.
__________________
2008 SSII DCT M3/Peapack/Parsippany NJ
darkalley is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      09-05-2008, 05:57 PM   #13
ideliver
Major
 
ideliver's Avatar
 
Drives: 08 E60 M5 & 08 Infiniti QX56
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: At the gas station

Posts: 1,232
iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2006 MB S430 SOLD  [0.00]
2003 E46 M3  [0.00]
all season tires = no season tires
__________________
Cars I've owned '76 Chevelle 350 RIP '82 Monte Carlo 350 RIP '82 Mustang 302 RIP '88 Honda CRX RIP '88 Olds Toronado sold '94 Toyota Tercel sold '99 Acura TL sold 2002 Porsche 911 sold 2003 E46 M3 Blk/gr 2006 MB S430 sold Current: 2008 Infiniti QX56 & 2008 E60 M5

ideliver is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      09-05-2008, 07:18 PM   #14
Radiation Joe
Veni Vidi Vici
 
Radiation Joe's Avatar
 
Drives: '11 JB/BBe-6sp-e90
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Macungie PA

Posts: 2,749
iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2011 e90 M3-Sold  [4.25]
2003 RS6 - Sold  [0.00]
2009 e90 M3 - Gone  [0.00]
2003 M3 SOLD  [0.00]
old 2002  [5.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by MosesDKE View Post
tirerack doesn't list anything for winter tires when I plug in my car... how are you guys searching?
Search by size.

Either 225/45-18 (best in my opinion) or
245/40-18 square setup (what I'm running) or
235/40-18 square setup (what BMW recommends)

Be sure to narrow your search to winter tires only. You'll need wheels also, but TR has a great set of cheap wheels for the M3

Cheap 8.5x18 wheels
__________________

Dinan compliment of stuff plus PF rotors and RG63s. Enough for now.
Why, yes. I am an abrasive bastard.
Radiation Joe is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      09-08-2008, 06:21 PM   #15
mightyaa
Private
 
Drives: E90 M3
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Denver

Posts: 70
iTrader: (0)

How about for 19" wheels?
Looking specifically at the Blizzak LM-25's: The 245/40r19's seem to be too tall at 26.8". So, I'm looking at the 255/35r19's which are 26" tall. I prefer a square setup.
mightyaa is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      09-09-2008, 11:25 AM   #16
ben@tirerack
M3Post Supporting Vendor
 
Drives: 740i
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: South Bend, IN

Posts: 823
iTrader: (0)

Tirerack does not have the winter tire packages and winter product searches programmed into the website yet for the M3. I am trying to push for this to be done soon. In the meantime, anyone here is welcome to call me directly. My number is in my signature.
__________________
_______________________________________________



To credit the forum, click through one of the banners in my signature and the top of the page, or call me direct at 877.522.8473 ext 660.
Email:ben@tirerack.com
ben@tirerack is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      09-09-2008, 11:56 PM   #17
chris719
Lieutenant
 
Drives: '08 M Roadster
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: NJ

Posts: 411
iTrader: (0)

I ran Michelin Pilot Alpin PA3's on my G35 last winter and I plan to do the same on my M Roadster (yes, I'm crazy) this winter.

I'm sure they are not as good in the snow as, say, a Blizzak LM60, but they are awesome tires in the wet/dry/freezing temps. I could greatly exceed the speed limit with good noise levels and zero vibration or stability concerns. Grip on the dry was good despite downsizing to 225 in the rear.

Ben, do you have any idea how the PA3 compares with the LM25 and the Dunlop M3?
chris719 is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      09-10-2008, 09:10 AM   #18
Eurotrash8
Captain
 
Eurotrash8's Avatar
 
Drives: 2008 E92 M3
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Calgary, Alberta

Posts: 623
iTrader: (4)

Thanks for all the feedback. Right now I am looking for my A4 Quatttro (winter car) and I think I have it narrowed down to the Michelin X-ice 2, Dunlop 3D, and Nokian Hakka RSi. If any one has experience or knowledge of which will work best overall that would be great. Ben?

The climate up here is typically always below 0, icy and sometimes slushy (Chinooks)

TIA
Eurotrash8 is offline   Hong Kong
0
Reply With Quote
      09-10-2008, 06:58 PM   #19
ben@tirerack
M3Post Supporting Vendor
 
Drives: 740i
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: South Bend, IN

Posts: 823
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by chris719 View Post
I ran Michelin Pilot Alpin PA3's on my G35 last winter and I plan to do the same on my M Roadster (yes, I'm crazy) this winter.

I'm sure they are not as good in the snow as, say, a Blizzak LM60, but they are awesome tires in the wet/dry/freezing temps. I could greatly exceed the speed limit with good noise levels and zero vibration or stability concerns. Grip on the dry was good despite downsizing to 225 in the rear.

Ben, do you have any idea how the PA3 compares with the LM25 and the Dunlop M3?
PA3 is in a similar category to the LM25 and Dunlop. All are designed to balance performance and winter capability, which seems perfect for the driving you describe.

The LM25 has the most aggressive tread. This will help in deep snow, but make them the least sporty. I ran these for several winters, and was very pleased with them. They are now due for replacement after 3 winters.

The Michelin has a new Helio compound, that uses sunflower oil rather than petroleum in the compound. This is supposed to help traction on wet or slushy conditions, as well as ice and snow. It is very new, with only limited availability last winter. We may get a chance to test it, if not I may run a set to see what they are like. Very good customer reviews so far. Michelin winter tires usually empasize handling and responsiveness more than Bridgestone.

The Dunlop is an excellent balance of handling and winter traction, and has been very popular for BMW's. I would say it falls between the Bridgestone and the Michelin in it's balance of handling and winter traction.

Hope that is helpful. I think any of the 3 will do well.
__________________
_______________________________________________



To credit the forum, click through one of the banners in my signature and the top of the page, or call me direct at 877.522.8473 ext 660.
Email:ben@tirerack.com
ben@tirerack is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      09-10-2008, 09:04 PM   #20
chris719
Lieutenant
 
Drives: '08 M Roadster
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: NJ

Posts: 411
iTrader: (0)

Thanks for the info. What is unfortunate is the limited sizes the PA3 comes in vs the M3 and LM25. If I run 17" wheels on the Z4M I think only one Borbet wheel listed fits (others probably don't clear the brakes) and it's pretty ugly, but I can get the PA3. If I buy some 18" CSL replicas or M6 replicas to use as winter wheels I have to choose another tire, not that they are bad I'm sure.
chris719 is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      10-03-2009, 11:08 AM   #21
Projectile
Second Lieutenant
 
Drives: 2011 E92
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Calgary

Posts: 216
iTrader: (0)

Any updates on this topic for winter of 2009-2010?
Projectile is offline   Canada
0
Reply With Quote
      10-06-2009, 11:06 AM   #22
Subw00er
Bates '08 Interlagos Launch
 
Subw00er's Avatar
 
Drives: 08e92M, 03e46M
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: NY

Posts: 1,202
iTrader: (2)

Send a message via AIM to Subw00er
subscribed. What is the best handling tire for winter? I've used wintersports in the past and they are really good, but I much preferred the M3 to teh D3 they use now. The tires went all soft. Now I'm thinking an all season would give me that performance I'm looking for?
__________________
Custom Exhaust Project: Bates Valvetronic exhaust: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=253661 -- Exhaust Mod pics in here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/40236795@N03/
DON'T BUY Race Ready Performance electronic cutout valves. Here's why: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthr...40#post9589740
Subw00er is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
Post Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:25 AM.




m3post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST