BMW M3 Forum (E90 E92)

BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read


Go Back   M3Post - BMW M3 Forum > M3 (E90 / E92 / E93) > General M3 Forum (E90 + E92 + E93)
 
Lux Angel Eyes
Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      08-29-2008, 02:53 AM   #67
Year's_End
RWD only.
Year's_End's Avatar
United_States
334
Rep
12,336
Posts

 
Drives: '08 E92 335i
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: St. Pete, FL

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Radiation Joe View Post
Nope. SUV drivers. Minivans included.

As I overtake, they inexplicably decide to change lanes from the slow lane to the fast lane. It appears to be random. In fact, I call it the random lane change.

They don't look.
They aren't passing anyone.
Random.

Then there is the tour bus. Oh, yes, the tour bus. It doesn't matter what speed they are traveling at. They just plant that big ass boat in the left lane and stay there. No amount of light flashing or horn honking will generate a response. They are rolling road blocks. They don't speed up. They don't slow down. If you pass them, and then slow down to annoy them, they will run into you. The drivers are unconscious.

Try it sometime. Get in front of one of these road hogs and then slow to about 1mph slower than they are going. See how close that behemoth gets before you lose your nerve and speed up. You won't even be able to see its windshield through your mirror; just a big wall of fiberglas.
hahaha it's funny because it's true.
__________________
E92 335i: Space Grey|Coral Red|Aluminum Trim

Future Ride: 2015 Mustang GT Premium |Guard|401A|PP|Recaros|6MT
Appreciate 0
      08-29-2008, 07:24 AM   #68
Wads
Second Lieutenant
Wads's Avatar
4
Rep
257
Posts

 
Drives: E93 M3 & Tuned Focus ST
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: UK

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by e46e92love View Post
Dude, not knocking anyone, but when I had a cheap car that was "quick" I didn't go around saying it would beat out a 911 S, M3 or corvette........
I suggest you re-read what I actually said and then explain to everyone where I suggested that my ST was quicker than an M3. I said that the ST (in modified form) is a quick car and also that I didn’t expect my new E93 M3 to be as quick in gear (which I honestly don’t and will measure as and when the new car is fully run-in using the timing gear I’ve used on a wide range of fast cars….. the same $600 kit used by many top car magazines so not a simple stopwatch).

I totally understand your scepticism of my comments as for one you don’t know me nor have any reason to trust anything I say….. but all I can say is that as a 40 year old car geek I have no reason to troll or make up rubbish on a car forum. As far as the ST goes I purchased it as a “make do” car not really expecting to be impressed with its (straight line) performance, coming from a Boxster S and S2000 before that my expectations were not high at all….. the ST was a quickish car to carry the wife and new baby around while waiting for the M3 vert to be delivered.

The only time I ridiculed somebody on a car forum was strangely close to your implied comment….. basically a guy on the Focus ST forum said that his modified ST kept pace with an Audi RS4 cabrio….. “dream on” said I not realising how quick a simple ECU remap can make the car. Before ordering the E93 M3 I tested plenty of decent cars and measured their performance, most of them would totally destroy the ST from a stop light but in gear between 30-70mph I am amazed at the bang for the buck offered by the humble Ford…… the following 30-70mph times were from the testing I did:

M5 3.5sec
M3 Coupe 3.9sec
Jag XKR 3.9sec
997 Carrera S manual 4.0sec
Audi R8 4.2sec (I didn’t have the test gear with me but this is the time recorded by Autocar mag)
Aston DB9 Volante 4.2sec
Audi RS5 4.3sec
Focus ST 4.3sec
Cayman S 4.4sec
997 Carrera S Tiptronic 4.5sec
Boxster S (987 3.2) 4.8sec
Audi RS4 Cab 4.9sec
S2000 5.6sec
Golf R32 DSG 5.8sec
Alfa Brera V6 7.2sec

Sorry to everyone for taking this slightly off topic but I felt the need to respond to an unwarranted attack.
__________________
E93 ///M3 M-DCT

Testing soon: Lambo LP670 SV and Ferrari 430 Scuderia
Appreciate 0
      08-29-2008, 07:42 AM   #69
ZoinksM3
Private First Class
ZoinksM3's Avatar
3
Rep
114
Posts

 
Drives: E90 DCT M3
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Irving, Tx

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Stunnerable View Post
Don't knock other peoples cars. More than once in my life I had total POS cars and it's all I could afford. Consider yourselves lucky you can drive such nice cars like BMWs and never knock someone else who can't afford them. That's the pinnacle of ignorance.
It is the driver plus the type of car. When I got my first vehicle, a '83Datsun\Nissan Stanza, I didn't roll up to a Grand National and look to drag.

Everyone has their own situation; money, style choices, etc. There are certian cars that attact certian drivers who have inflated expectations of what their cars can do. We call these people asshats.
__________________
Appreciate 0
      08-29-2008, 07:58 AM   #70
Stunnerable
Captain
Stunnerable's Avatar
United_States
11
Rep
624
Posts

 
Drives: Nissan Rogue, 09 Jet Black M3
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Horsham, PA

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by ZoinksM3 View Post
It is the driver plus the type of car. When I got my first vehicle, a '83Datsun\Nissan Stanza, I didn't roll up to a Grand National and look to drag.

Everyone has their own situation; money, style choices, etc. There are certian cars that attact certian drivers who have inflated expectations of what their cars can do. We call these people asshats.
You know what funny about this.. when I lived in Plano, TX back in 99 I was going to school at SMU and on the ride home in my 95 Nissan 4 banger truck I raced a Viper. It wasn't because I was trying to act cool or I thought I would beat him.. I just wanted him to show off so I could see and hear it take off. Now I know how horrid the Viper V10 sounds.
Appreciate 0
      08-29-2008, 04:41 PM   #71
TheBry
Captain
TheBry's Avatar
United_States
11
Rep
767
Posts

 
Drives: 2012 740Li (F02) Loaded!
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: San Francisco, California

iTrader: (0)

Toyota Camry + Prius + Corolla; Honda Civic + Civic Hybrid

Uuuhhggghh!! I'm so glad you started this thread. I've been wanting to vent about this for ages!

I absolutely HATE driving behind Camrys, Prius' Corollas and Civics (especially the hybrid variety). There's just something about drivers who select these cars -- or, more accurately, the way some drivers DRIVE these cars. The Civic driver (at least in my neck of the woods) ALWAYS drives slow in the fast lane. Especially the latest generation Civic (pictured below). They'll "dam-up" traffic for miles behind them without the slightest glance into their rear view mirror -- with miles and miles of open highway in front of them. Why not move into one of the right lanes?! Frustrating.

The Prius driver (current generation car pictured below) is a little more challenging to characterize. They're either really slow or really fast with no in-between. I always make the assumption that the slower driver is paying more attention to their energy use than actual driving -- which wouldn't be such a bad thing if they weren't CLOGGING the fast lane. There's nothing funnier than a smug Prius driver in the carpool lane gumming up the flow of traffic so they can keep their MPG meter at 50MPG, while regular (non-carpool) traffic is passing them by. Then there's the hyper Prius driver that floors the thing, weaving in and out of traffic. There are lots of both varieties here in the San Francisco Bay Area.

In some cases it's the car itself. For example, I especially hate the 1997 - 2000 Camry (pictured below). When I'm driving behind one of these, the driver will invariably tap on the brakes at the slightest hint of "traffic change" in front of them. In any other car, this simple tap would illuminate the brake lights and gradually slow the car. However, in this generation Camry, the braking action causes the nose of the car to dive, and the rear to raise up high in the air. I never EVER get used to this. I always think they're in a panic stop, so I panic myself. I've slowly come to realize that it's just the behavior of this particular car, so I steer clear of them whenever I can.

I think part of the problem here is that these cars are simply "appliances". They're very easy to drive and are relatively inexpensive (which is why they're all over the place and, in some cases, a menace to society).
Attached Images
   
__________________

Past: 2004 E46 330ci Convertible
Present: 2008 E93 M3
Present: 2012 740Li (F02) M-Sport (European Delivery)
Appreciate 0
      08-29-2008, 06:33 PM   #72
MRBLUE
Private
MRBLUE's Avatar
4
Rep
95
Posts

 
Drives: 09 SEDAN SG DCT FR
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: claremont

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Stunnerable View Post
Don't knock other peoples cars. More than once in my life I had total POS cars and it's all I could afford. Consider yourselves lucky you can drive such nice cars like BMWs and never knock someone else who can't afford them. That's the pinnacle of ignorance.
why does someone always try to make this forum P.C.The car the person driving whatever,you annoy me. I think is the basic topic? Stunnerable you may have drivin a POS but I hope you did not drive like TOOL.If you where in a mustang and race me to every stop light then I Im afraid you where A ....
Appreciate 0
      08-29-2008, 06:48 PM   #73
monsta
Brigadier General
monsta's Avatar
United_States
59
Rep
3,591
Posts

 
Drives: E92 M3
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Bergen County, NJ/Y.O, NY

iTrader: (2)

VW owners are the worst especiall the GTI's and the old Jetta's w/ the blacked out bummper from the exhaust
__________________

'08 E92 M3 6MT | IB | FR | RAC RG63's | VRS Ti Exhaust | Fabspeed HFC & Xpipe
'09 X5 35d SG/SB
'11 X3 28i AW/CN/FW (wife's car
Appreciate 0
      08-29-2008, 11:30 PM   #74
Keto
Lieutenant Colonel
Keto's Avatar
United_States
21
Rep
1,585
Posts

 
Drives: F80 M3
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: WHO DAT NATION

iTrader: (1)

Garage List
2015 BMW M3  [5.00]
Expeditions and Suburbans are apparently driven by people who assume the big engine means they're in a fast car. Inevitably on a certain stretch of road that I do 60 they gun it to keep up, then when they hit the big back-to-back 90 degree curves they slow to 25 while I stay at 60.

Enjoy inertia, ladies.

Those curves stop most of the pretenders, although a Oldsmobile Alero tried to keep up the other day and almost went off the road. Classic stuff.
__________________
2015 SO/SO MT M3 :: Exec : Lighting : Adaptive : HK : CF trim : Full leather : DAP : Black 19's : sunshade
Crystalline tint 40%/70% on windshield : M performance mirrors, spoiler, splitters, lip : RKP diffuser : Fully dechromed
Bavsound Stage 1 : V1 Savvy hardwired : Self-coded, will code locally for beer or food
Appreciate 0
      08-30-2008, 03:14 AM   #75
Robert
Major General
118
Rep
6,902
Posts

 
Drives: 135i, current is350
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Socal

iTrader: (1)

Add Scion tc to the list.
Appreciate 0
      08-30-2008, 04:08 AM   #76
Big Windy
Major General
Big Windy's Avatar
United_States
71
Rep
5,118
Posts

 
Drives: audi s4
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: seatac, wa

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheBry View Post

In some cases it's the car itself. For example, I especially hate the 1997 - 2000 Camry (pictured below). When I'm driving behind one of these, the driver will invariably tap on the brakes at the slightest hint of "traffic change" in front of them. In any other car, this simple tap would illuminate the brake lights and gradually slow the car. However, in this generation Camry, the braking action causes the nose of the car to dive, and the rear to raise up high in the air. I never EVER get used to this. I always think they're in a panic stop, so I panic myself. I've slowly come to realize that it's just the behavior of this particular car, so I steer clear of them whenever I can.


I LOL'd at this one. I totally know what you mean!
Appreciate 0
      08-30-2008, 02:42 PM   #77
1ne
First Lieutenant
1ne's Avatar
Canada
3
Rep
338
Posts

 
Drives: '08 E92 M3 JZB 6MT
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Edmonton

iTrader: (0)

Neon... so many sup'd up neon always want to race me at the red light. It was fun at first to kick their ass but now it gets old. No matter how much they rev the engine, I can't be bother with them anymore. I look over just smile.
__________________
Appreciate 0
      08-30-2008, 04:48 PM   #78
Blake
Banned
No_Country
180
Rep
4,651
Posts

 
Drives: Chevy Aveo
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Parent's Basement

iTrader: (7)

am i the only one that is repetitively annoyed by mr. G35 or G37 driver? here in dallas, these guys are always the ones that want to mess with you on the streets. they'll start trying to pull on you, subsequently get in front of you, then slow down so you'll just have to pass them again, then repeat steps 1 through 3 to infinity (no pun intended) until one of you has to turn. they're like gnats...black paint, chromed wheels, dark tinted windows...buzzing around just to annoy you and they're everywhere!
Appreciate 0
      08-30-2008, 06:52 PM   #79
ZoinksM3
Private First Class
ZoinksM3's Avatar
3
Rep
114
Posts

 
Drives: E90 DCT M3
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Irving, Tx

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by blakepilot View Post
am i the only one that is repetitively annoyed by mr. G35 or G37 driver? here in dallas, these guys are always the ones that want to mess with you on the streets. they'll start trying to pull on you, subsequently get in front of you, then slow down so you'll just have to pass them again, then repeat steps 1 through 3 to infinity (no pun intended) until one of you has to turn. they're like gnats...black paint, chromed wheels, dark tinted windows...buzzing around just to annoy you and they're everywhere!
I'll join in with you here. These drivers are also the ones that go WOT in parking garages so everyone can share with the exhaust note.

One more gripe. I want to kill all SUV's that go over speed bumps at .5 miles per hour. It isn't like they are going to bottom out.
__________________
Appreciate 0
      08-30-2008, 10:51 PM   #80
synclastica_86
Captain
synclastica_86's Avatar
Hong Kong
35
Rep
699
Posts

 
Drives: F32 435i, E92 M3, S550
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Hong Kong

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wads View Post
….. the same $600 kit used by many top car magazines so not a simple stopwatch).
Dude I like your performance box, I want one too. But should I go for the drift box? Is it worth the extra money?
__________________

Current: BMW F32 435iA, M-Sports; BMW E92 M3, M-DCT; Mercedes Benz W221 S550 4matic, AMG Sports package
Retired: BMW E93 323iA; BMW E85 Z4 3.0i, SMG; Lexus IS 250 AWD; Lexus GX 470; Mercedes Benz W203 C230 Sportscoupe
Appreciate 0
      08-31-2008, 12:14 AM   #81
Tosh
Enlisted Member
0
Rep
33
Posts

 
Drives: e90 M3
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Midwest USA by way of Tokyo

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by BMW3R View Post
+1

I have not had anyone challenge me since having the M3. I kinda think that people don't know about the car?

Same story around here, most people don't react. I prefer it that way. Although Mustangs around here try to race anything...
__________________
☆AW ☆ e90 ☆ M3 ☆ DCT ☆ eighteens ☆no sunroof☆
Appreciate 0
      08-31-2008, 12:53 AM   #82
FifthStreetz
O! So Sour!!
FifthStreetz's Avatar
United_States
193
Rep
15,559
Posts

 
Drives: Fast 240z / Slow M3
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Fort Lee, NJ

iTrader: (24)

Garage List
2008 M3  [4.75]
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1ne View Post
Neon... so many sup'd up neon always want to race me at the red light. It was fun at first to kick their ass but now it gets old. No matter how much they rev the engine, I can't be bother with them anymore. I look over just smile.
Neon SRT-4 are worse.

Its a freaking NEON...
__________________
Appreciate 0
      08-31-2008, 01:04 AM   #83
synclastica_86
Captain
synclastica_86's Avatar
Hong Kong
35
Rep
699
Posts

 
Drives: F32 435i, E92 M3, S550
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Hong Kong

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
To sum things up, the most annoying cars, or to be precise, the cars that attract the most annoying drivers are entry level models that claim to be sporty.
__________________

Current: BMW F32 435iA, M-Sports; BMW E92 M3, M-DCT; Mercedes Benz W221 S550 4matic, AMG Sports package
Retired: BMW E93 323iA; BMW E85 Z4 3.0i, SMG; Lexus IS 250 AWD; Lexus GX 470; Mercedes Benz W203 C230 Sportscoupe
Appreciate 0
      08-31-2008, 02:26 AM   #84
MrClean
Lieutenant
MrClean's Avatar
7
Rep
437
Posts

 
Drives: 2014 EBII 428i
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Shangri LA

iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Radiation Joe View Post
If you pass them, and then slow down to annoy them, they will run into you. The drivers are unconscious.

Try it sometime. Get in front of one of these road hogs and then slow to about 1mph slower than they are going. See how close that behemoth gets before you lose your nerve and speed up. You won't even be able to see its windshield through your mirror; just a big wall of fiberglas.
Why the hell would you do that? You're as bad as the a-holes you're complaining about, and begging for an accident. A very bad one...
Appreciate 0
      08-31-2008, 04:30 AM   #85
Wads
Second Lieutenant
Wads's Avatar
4
Rep
257
Posts

 
Drives: E93 M3 & Tuned Focus ST
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: UK

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by synclastica_86 View Post
Dude I like your performance box, I want one too. But should I go for the drift box? Is it worth the extra money?
I guess that depends if you want to measure drift angles? The drift Box is exactly the same as the perf box apart from being more expensive but the only extra measurement (as far as I remember) you get is the drift angle.

The Perf Box measures everything that I'm interested in,

lat and long G
G-Circle
0-60
0-100
Any other speed delta eg 0-62, 5-60, 30-70, 0-124
1/4 mile
Wheel BHP estimate
Braking time and distance from any speed
GPS position (inc height)
Lap times and splits

You can also export data to Google Earth eg. I tested the 997 Carrera S at Millbrook:

__________________
E93 ///M3 M-DCT

Testing soon: Lambo LP670 SV and Ferrari 430 Scuderia

Last edited by Wads; 08-31-2008 at 06:46 AM.
Appreciate 0
      08-31-2008, 04:40 AM   #86
Blake
Banned
No_Country
180
Rep
4,651
Posts

 
Drives: Chevy Aveo
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Parent's Basement

iTrader: (7)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tosh View Post
Although Mustangs around here try to race anything...
you must live near me...those are the #2 worst offenders around here.
Appreciate 0
      08-31-2008, 08:39 AM   #87
V1.47fan
Powered by Bacon
V1.47fan's Avatar
United_States
45
Rep
1,453
Posts

 
Drives: Bay M Vee
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: NATIONWIDE

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Radiation Joe View Post
Nope. SUV drivers. Minivans included.

As I overtake, they inexplicably decide to change lanes from the slow lane to the fast lane. It appears to be random. In fact, I call it the random lane change.

They don't look.
They aren't passing anyone.
Random.

Then there is the tour bus. Oh, yes, the tour bus. It doesn't matter what speed they are traveling at. They just plant that big ass boat in the left lane and stay there. No amount of light flashing or horn honking will generate a response. They are rolling road blocks. They don't speed up. They don't slow down. If you pass them, and then slow down to annoy them, they will run into you. The drivers are unconscious.

Try it sometime. Get in front of one of these road hogs and then slow to about 1mph slower than they are going. See how close that behemoth gets before you lose your nerve and speed up. You won't even be able to see its windshield through your mirror; just a big wall of fiberglas.
Just curious,you're in such a hurry,need to pass a tour bus so bad then you get in front of them and what do you do? slow down to annoy them.

I think it's silly to put yourself in a position where a 20 ton vehicle with poor stopping distance is breathing down your neck.
__________________
Appreciate 0
Post Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:32 AM.




m3post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST