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So the notion of someone just slapping in coil-overs in a 335i (or name your car) and believes that it would outperform a M tuned suspension is almost comical. Quote:
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Hat's off to Cadillac. As far as I know (and despite its size), it'll be a competitor more in the M3-C63-RS4-IS-F wars than against, say, the M5 or E63, and from my standpoint, the more the merrier. Clearly the fanboys are already out in this string, but trust me, this is good news for us all. Bruce |
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08-25-2008, 10:52 PM | #48 | |
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I think for European brands to reach this high in the rating is a bloody good job and out of all the European brands BMW is top. |
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Here is a new test by Edmunds.
CTS-V had a faster 0-60, 1/4 mile, braking, skidpad and slalom. Link: http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...hotopanel..1.* Not bad. More incentive for BMW to build a bigger and badder M5. And we all know they will. |
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Without the benefit of full road tests by the motoring press, there's no way to yet tell how the car will behave in everyday driving, but based solely on my neighbor's 300 HP '08 CTS, it'll be just fine, with all the accoutrements for comfy motoring to keep your S.O. happy, but able to leap tall buildings at a single bound when called upon to do so. Sure, it won't be as tossable as the M3, but even that car loses to the 1 series on the tossability front. I could even be happy with an automatic (a first for me), with that river of torque. My early-retirement pocketbook would be happier with the beer-budget 135i, but I could stretch it a bit for this car. We'll see. Bruce Last edited by bruce.augenstein@comcast.; 08-29-2008 at 12:32 PM.. |
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I have been seeing a lot of CTS's here in Southern California lately, even with the younger crowd. I still don't see Caddy's replacing BMW, Benz or Audi anytime soon.
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This is great incentive for BMW. GM just built a car with 140 more HP for $12K less than the M3. If you compare it to the M5 the distinction becomes even greater. Although it is a brute force attack it bodes very well for future performance and pricing.
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Just wait until the tuners get their hands on the new V... We'll be seeing over 600hp in short order with very little money needed.
Competition helps us all.
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08-28-2008, 12:01 AM | #54 |
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What can I say that's not already said? M5 size/performance for M3 money. This is a victory for Cadillac, for two important reasons.
1) The M5 has been in production for 20 over years, and always has been the standard bearer. For ANY company to produce a car with equal performance AND for LESS money with only their SECOND attempt is something to behold. 2) The CTS-V winning despite the BMW's SMG (which is most at home on the track) and lighter weight. Of course, great competition breeds great automobiles. I expect the next M5 to raise the bar higher. Time never stands still. However, I think the CTS-V has such a good base with the new CTS structure that I can see them staying competitive for years to come. With that said, I'm tired of the same 'ol GM bashing, like questioning its reliability. Listen, I would GLADLY compare Cadillac's reliability history with BMW's any day of the week. As for the CTS-V's, fit and finish, it's actually been the new CTS's strengths. Take a look at the comparison tests, like the one at Car and Driver. The 328i won, but this is what they said about the CTS' interior and overall quality: "A high-speed cruise down the interstate gave us some time to appreciate the CTS’s great on-center steering and well-executed cabin. Even when trimmed in vinyl, the CTS’s cabin looks terrific—this synthetic stuff looks better than GM leather of the recent past. High-quality plastics, bespoke switchgear, and a dashboard covered in carefully stitched vinyl look as if they were lifted from a much more expensive sedan." ... and that's just the normal CTS's interior. I expect the CTS-V to be even better. All in all, fun comparison! |
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08-29-2008, 12:44 PM | #56 | |
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Jeez, what if it matches the M3's gas mileage? Bruce |
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08-29-2008, 09:52 PM | #58 | |
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Ah no one cares.
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I showed you pics of the amazing Cimmaron, part Cavalier and part Cadillac tradition. The new CTS-V is a nice car....don't make it a Caddy vs. BMW thing......
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Secondly, what you posted is a non-sequitor, I asked for proof that BMW's reliability is superior to Cadillac's. Showing a picture of the Cimmaron does not address that. |
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08-30-2008, 07:21 PM | #62 | |
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Don't you have something else better to do than quote latin terms on the internet? The new CTS-V is nice, period. BTW You asked comparison of reliabilty, I gave you Cimmaron - horrible. In the end who cares about quality....if you really want, we can dig up that video of the guy who had horrible problems with the last generation of CTS-V. It follows too because if you want quality / reliability do you really want to compare GM with BMW over the past 50 years? Have fun with the latin dictionary.
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I'm still waiting for proof of BMW's superiority in reliability. Showing me a picture of a car made 20 years ago is NOT proof. We don't need to go back 50 years since most people are not in market for either a 50-year old BMW or Cadillac. How about the last 10 years? |
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Have fun in your own little world! Enjoy your car.
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Ahh .. so since you have no defense, you have to attack what I drive? So be it. I'm not ashamed of my car, it's paid off, gets me from point A to point B, and gets good gas mileage. Could I buy a BMW? Theoretically yes, but I believe in "keeping the eye simple", so it doesn't distract me from what's truly important.
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No, it is waste of time arguing with idiots on the internet. I didn't insult you or your car BTW....just enjoy....smell the roses....lust for whatever car you want, GM or BMW.
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