Updated iDrive on '09 US Spec Confirmed - Page 3

mkoesel · 08-08-2008, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

I think PencilGeek is going to lose this bet.

Well there's still time to get in on September SOP for E92 at 8:1.

TLud · 08-08-2008, 11:25 AM

I am 100% certain that the new iDrive will turn up in US 3 series models sometime during the '09 model year. I'm about 50/50 that they'll be released during September production.

Mr.AK · 08-08-2008, 11:28 AM

For the record! I am so happy the 09s MAY not get the new iDrive. BTW those map graphic look SO MUCH BETTER than ours. I still don't understand why we can't eventually (2010ish) get a software upgrade.
PS-BMW can give a fuck who they piss off!!! They already made their money on us 08 buyers. And we will keep going back, pissed or not!

mkoesel · 08-08-2008, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr.AK

For the record! I am so happy the 09s MAY not get the new iDrive.

Did you read the thread? It is 100% 09's get the new iDrive.

Also, how miserable a life do you have where you temper your misfortune (which was avoidable if you did your research) with hope for others to experience misfortune also? Sounds like a real good way to stack up a lot of bad karma against yourself. Just MHO though.

southlight · 08-08-2008, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by mkoesel

Sorry south, just going from memory. I thought you added the reference to the E92 later when you added the second pic post with the E92 exterior shots.

Just kidding.

I had three posts in that thread. The first one only showed exterior E90 pics, the second one those of the E92 and the last bunch were interior pics of both E90 and E92 per big's request. Jason probably added these to my OP.

Didn't expect this to cause confusion.

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Aha, you were holding out on us.

So, since that is 100% now, do you know whether or not the new iDrive will be on all new 3 series/M3 from late September SOP? Or will it be phased in on some cars (such as the E92/E93) a bit later in the model year?

Not really holding out, these information lines are mostly spare unless someone doubts what car that is. These pics still are part of a German press release. My guess is though that with the reopening of the Regensburg factory in September all cars will get the new iDrive.

Best regards, south

Davinhci · 08-08-2008, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by PencilGeek

I'll still take 8:1 on it.

House always wins

Mr.AK · 08-08-2008, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by mkoesel

Did you read the thread? It is 100% 09's get the new iDrive.

Also, how miserable a life do you have where you temper your misfortune (which was avoidable if you did your research) with hope for others to experience misfortune also? Sounds like a real good way to stack up a lot of bad karma against yourself. Just MHO though.

Relax pal! And enjoy your old ride. And remember this is just the internet.

mkoesel · 08-08-2008, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr.AK

Relax pal! And enjoy your old ride. And remember this is just the internet.

I'm pretty relaxed fyi (you can tell by the lack of exclamation points in my posts.

)

Anyway, it was just friendly advice.

Like you said, its just the internet.

hkwallace328 · 08-11-2008, 03:22 AM

Check this out
http://www.bmwblog.com/2008/08/09/20...-presentation/
Read the pdf starting from pg 47

southlight · 08-11-2008, 03:52 AM

Great information hkwallace!

Here's the most important part for Big Windy:

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Best regards, south

Saturn · 08-11-2008, 05:05 AM

I wonder if the hard drive size will be upgradeable like in my Pioneer AVIC

Big Windy · 08-11-2008, 06:23 AM

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Great information hkwallace!

Here's the most important part for Big Windy:

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Best regards, south

Thanks South...we can always count on you.

e90330msport · 08-11-2008, 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by southlight

Great information hkwallace!

Here's the most important part for Big Windy:

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Best regards, south

Anyone know the diffence between the 1 & 3 series iDrive and the 7 series enhanced version?

MysticBlue · 08-11-2008, 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by e90330msport

Anyone know the diffence between the 1 & 3 series iDrive and the 7 series enhanced version?

Something about 3D effects in the navigation display. That's just one thing. Don't know if there was more.

southlight · 08-11-2008, 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by MysticBlue

Something about 3D effects in the navigation display. That's just one thing. Don't know if there was more.

Also a bigger screen size. The 7 series features a 10.2" display.

Best regards, south

Big Windy · 08-11-2008, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by e90330msport

Anyone know the diffence between the 1 & 3 series iDrive and the 7 series enhanced version?

7 series has more programmable keys, Heads up display, and no online owners manual (see page 68 from the pdf linked above)

TLud · 08-11-2008, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Saturn

I wonder if the hard drive size will be upgradeable like in my Pioneer AVIC

It would probably be difficult to do it with aftermarket HDs. As the OEM HDs increase in size over time, it may be possible to do a direct swap.

I have a bad feeling that the "cutting edge" iDrive system, despite its updates, will still be worlds behind my 2 year old AVIC Z1 in terms of features and functionality.

One interesting point in the pdf is how BMW came to the determination that controls were safer and less distracting than a touch screen system.

Big Windy · 08-11-2008, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by TLud

One interesting point in the pdf is how BMW came to the determination that controls were safer and less distracting than a touch screen system.

yeah,i thought that was interesting as well. you never really realize how much thought and research goes into this kind of stuff.

Saturn · 08-12-2008, 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by TLud

It would probably be difficult to do it with aftermarket HDs. As the OEM HDs increase in size over time, it may be possible to do a direct swap.

I have a bad feeling that the "cutting edge" iDrive system, despite its updates, will still be worlds behind my 2 year old AVIC Z1 in terms of features and functionality.

One interesting point in the pdf is how BMW came to the determination that controls were safer and less distracting than a touch screen system.

Agreed. I've been spoiled by my AVIC for the last 2 years, and I haven't seen an OEM system that comes close. (Closest is the Lexus system from an LS 460) Hopefully this new BMW system will come closer without losing too much functionality/user friendliness.

However, I hope that some industrious owner will find the location of the oem HD. From there it would simply be a matter of finding a compatible drive with a similar RPM and a larger size, and cloning the old to the new.

As far as the touchscreen vs controls debate, I think the touchscreen offers the most seamless control, but it is very distracting.

Bahn Driver · 08-12-2008, 04:18 PM

US Spec cars in Germany -Anyone have any clue if the '09 M3 nav systems that are US spec will work in Germany? I just ordered a '09 coupe for use while I'm over here in Germany. Previously we just had to buy a European disk & it worked fine...not so sure about the hard drive based nav.

GregW / Oregon · 08-12-2008, 04:34 PM

I wonder what it will cost to retrofit the '09 system to an '08? Probably a few thou, I would guess.

Krueger///M3 · 08-12-2008, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by GregW / Oregon

I wonder what it will cost to retrofit the '09 system to an '08? Probably a few thou, I would guess.

Are you planning on it?

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08-08-2008, 11:25 AM	#46
TLud Colonel Drives: '12 Golf R Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 2,292 iTrader: (3)	I am 100% certain that the new iDrive will turn up in US 3 series models sometime during the '09 model year. I'm about 50/50 that they'll be released during September production.

08-08-2008, 11:28 AM	#47
Mr.AK Second Lieutenant Drives: 2008 M3 e92 Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Baltimore MD Posts: 242 iTrader: (0)	For the record! I am so happy the 09s MAY not get the new iDrive. BTW those map graphic look SO MUCH BETTER than ours. I still don't understand why we can't eventually (2010ish) get a software upgrade. PS-BMW can give a fuck who they piss off!!! They already made their money on us 08 buyers. And we will keep going back, pissed or not!

08-11-2008, 03:22 AM	#53
hkwallace328 Second Lieutenant Drives: E92 M3, X5 4.8I Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Vancouver B.C. Posts: 252 iTrader: (0)	Check this out http://www.bmwblog.com/2008/08/09/20...-presentation/ Read the pdf starting from pg 47

08-11-2008, 05:05 AM	#55
Saturn Private First Class Drives: E92 M3 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 175 iTrader: (0)	I wonder if the hard drive size will be upgradeable like in my Pioneer AVIC

08-12-2008, 04:18 PM	#64
Bahn Driver Registered Drives: 2009 E92 Jerez Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Germany Posts: 4 iTrader: (0)	US Spec cars in Germany -Anyone have any clue if the '09 M3 nav systems that are US spec will work in Germany? I just ordered a '09 coupe for use while I'm over here in Germany. Previously we just had to buy a European disk & it worked fine...not so sure about the hard drive based nav.