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      07-24-2008, 08:19 AM   #45
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Damn guess I will b voiding my warranty cause I need that software in my life!
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      07-24-2008, 08:30 AM   #46
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unbelievable, I knew it was just a matter of time until someone tap in the M3 potential.

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      07-24-2008, 09:13 AM   #47
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Awesome car. Best colot combination and the aero bits are just about perfect. The wheels are are also looking great. Impressive numbers on a impressive car. Nice job man.
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That is one seriously smooth power and torque curve. I makes me think 'What have BMW done wrong' not getting their own one to look that good.

In fact you couldn't have asked for anything better if you had drawn it yourself.
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The one thing I likr about this is that you have great gains so I can stop hearing how much better the 335 is because you cant get anymore power out of the 8 cylinder and how its maxed out BLAH BLAH BLAH. This can not be said anymore which makes me a lot HAPPIER because I dont have to hear that stupidity anymore. If anyone says that I am linking them to this post
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Not sure what you mean by this but it only took a day with the car there to due the ECU reflash, dyno and delivery the next day.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but based on the statement above, it sounds like all of the power gain shown on the dyno is just from the reflash (i.e., the before and after runs both include the aftermarket exhaust and intake). This also seems to make sense based on the "before" torque curve. If so, that's extremely impressive for a reflash.
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      07-24-2008, 09:30 AM   #51
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can you send them your ECU in the mail and have them do all the modifications such as the chipping and removing top speed and rev limiter?
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      07-24-2008, 09:31 AM   #52
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This is by far the best M3 on the forum. Congrats.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but it sounds like all of the power gain shown on the dyno is just from the reflash (i.e., the before and after runs both include the aftermarket exhaust and intake). If so, that's extremely impressive.
I think he had the exhaust and intake done before the run as well.
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That is one seriously smooth power and torque curve. I makes me think 'What have BMW done wrong' not getting their own one to look that good.
BMW hasn't done anything wrong. Although the dyno charts look awesome, as he has already indicated, the fuel efficiency has gone to hell (as if it's not already there in stock form), and most likely, so have emissions. I wonder if it would pass emissions in the US? And, we don't know the effects on reliability. There are many trade-offs when you do a mod like this. I am sure BMW-M-Mexico is aware of them, and he has made his choice. (I am not saying one shouldn't do it, but just to be aware that there will be some trade-offs).
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That is one seriously smooth power and torque curve. I makes me think 'What have BMW done wrong' not getting their own one to look that good.
BMW needed the M3 to get decent MPGs so the car is semi-practical.
We still don't know how the economy is on the new chip. Obviously, some of the worse gas mileage comes from a heavier foot

Side note: I have sit in those Performance seats in a 120d in the BMW Museum, Munich. They are comfortable and cool as hell.
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unbelievable, I knew it was just a matter of time until someone tap in the M3 potential.
We are currently R&D'ing an E92 solution. Our M3 (E46) and M5 (E39) have made huge gains.

Judging by some of the driving testing I have done so far, the E92 will be brilliant.
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This is great! I love the fact that those Ms are easily tunable. BMW will not like the flash though. I am sure there will be warrantee issues if they find out.
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      07-24-2008, 10:04 AM   #58
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Way to go man. That is awesome.

I hope Dinan can show similar gains; for warranty issue.
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      07-24-2008, 10:23 AM   #59
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Hey guys could u help me with some info
please help me decide whether i should get the:
Facelift Bmw 3 Series
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Bmw 550i
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Bmw X5 4.8i
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      07-24-2008, 10:24 AM   #60
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They will most likely be plastic. But, the CF/Plastic difference would be small compared to the savings you will get from stock->plastic. I think there are 6 motors in each stock seat. I would expect total savings in the 80lb-100lb range. Please weigh the new seats before you put them in, and the stock seats when you take them out, and let us know.

It sounds like I might need to drive down to Mexico soon!

How much is the dealer charging you there for the seats?
Hahaha! Sure thing, I will let you know weights etc... as soon as I have this information avaliable. It appears that with the seats (say 80lbs savings), BBK, HRE's, CF boot lid, springs, exhaust and some other very small items here and there, I could save around 200 lbs in total with say around 460 bhp's, not too shabby in my book.
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i heard they have the side airbags, but don't have seat sensors to detect if you have a passenger or not...

as for my previous query, i was wondering if i can send them my ECU for a reflash, or do they physically need the car present to optimise the reflash?

thanks.

you're the MOD LORD!!!

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As someone mentioned already, I don't think you can swap ECUs in and out at will. My SA told me that car specific info is recorded by the ECU such as mileage. If he is correct, I imagine the dealer needs to program a new ECU before it can be installed.
No, you can't easily change the ECU, lots and lots of codes are particular to your car and I know of know one that has been able to successfully do it
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BMW hasn't done anything wrong. Although the dyno charts look awesome, as he has already indicated, the fuel efficiency has gone to hell (as if it's not already there in stock form), and most likely, so have emissions. I wonder if it would pass emissions in the US? And, we don't know the effects on reliability. There are many trade-offs when you do a mod like this. I am sure BMW-M-Mexico is aware of them, and he has made his choice. (I am not saying one shouldn't do it, but just to be aware that there will be some trade-offs).

I didn't take the time to read the whole thread, if I had then I would have knew about the ecomony and wouldn't have commented on the subject.

Though the curves for both power and torque are the smoothest I have even seen.
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That is one seriously smooth power and torque curve. I makes me think 'What have BMW done wrong' not getting their own one to look that good.

In fact you couldn't have asked for anything better if you had drawn it yourself.
See Lucids post below, they have don nothing wrong!! Its really a matter of fuel efficiency, it has gone to hell and back!!! Hahaha!!

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The one thing I likr about this is that you have great gains so I can stop hearing how much better the 335 is because you cant get anymore power out of the 8 cylinder and how its maxed out BLAH BLAH BLAH. This can not be said anymore which makes me a lot HAPPIER because I dont have to hear that stupidity anymore. If anyone says that I am linking them to this post
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I think he had the exhaust and intake done before the run as well.
+ 1000, I've said this before, you can't compare a moded car to a none moded. A chipped 335 should be put against this one!!
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I think he had the exhaust and intake done before the run as well.
Correct!

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BMW hasn't done anything wrong. Although the dyno charts look awesome, as he has already indicated, the fuel efficiency has gone to hell (as if it's not already there in stock form), and most likely, so have emissions. I wonder if it would pass emissions in the US? And, we don't know the effects on reliability. There are many trade-offs when you do a mod like this. I am sure BMW-M-Mexico is aware of them, and he has made his choice. (I am not saying one shouldn't do it, but just to be aware that there will be some trade-offs).
100% correct!!!
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Hey guys could u help me with some info
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Bmw X5 4.8i
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That's a pretty broad range of vehicles/prices. I suggest you call your nearest BMW dealership and schedule a test drive of a M3!
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That's a pretty broad range of vehicles/prices. I suggest you call your nearest BMW dealership and schedule a test drive of a M3!
Yep, these are totally differente vehicales also. IMO different catagories almost entirely. What are you looking (i.e., peformance, MPG, confort, family, etc...) for and maybe we can help?
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Hey guys could u help me with some info
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Facelift Bmw 3 Series
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Bmw X5 4.8i
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Let's not ruin this great thread by jacking it. You should start your own thread.
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