BMW M3 Forum (E90 E92)

BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read


Go Back   M3Post - BMW M3 Forum > BIMMERPOST Universal Forums > Off-Topic Discussions Board
 
Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      07-03-2008, 01:57 PM   #1
scottwww
Brigadier General
 
scottwww's Avatar
 
Drives: 07 BMW 335i Cpe, 05 Mazda RX8
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: USA

Posts: 4,759
iTrader: (0)

Send a message via MSN to scottwww
Careful what you watch

link
Google Ordered To Release Data On YouTube Users

The owner of YouTube has to turn over user login IDs, records showing when users watched videos, their IP addresses, and numbers that identify the videos.

By K.C. Jones
InformationWeek
July 3, 2008 01:07 PM

The judge hearing Viacom (VIAB)'s $1 billion copyright-infringement claim against Google has ordered its YouTube unit to provide user histories.

Google has to turn over millions of videos it has removed from the video-sharing site, user login IDs, records showing when users watched videos, their IP addresses, and numbers that identify the videos. The order applies not only to videos watched on YouTube but also to videos embedded on third-party Web sites.
More Internet Insights

White Papers
Google (NSDQ: GOOG) tried to argue that the request, for about 12 TB of data, was unduly burdensome, but U.S. District Judge Louis L. Stanton determined that it would be easy to copy. The search engine company also argued that Viacom's request for the information threatened user privacy because it would disclose viewing and video uploading patterns and link them with login IDs and IP addresses. Stanton characterized those concerns as "speculative" and said Google failed to provide legal justification for that argument.


Stanton did decide in Google's favor by turning down requests for proprietary information: indexes showing how Google organizes its videos and ads, as well as the source code for YouTube search, Google search, and the company's new video ID program.

The judge also ruled in Google's favor on two other points. He denied Viacom's request for titles, keywords, comments, and flags for inappropriate content, saying that request was too broad. He also declared that private videos uploaded by a user sharing with one other user are protected under the Electronic Communications Privacy Act.
Viacom sought the records to prove its claim that YouTube and Google encourage or promote copyright infringement by its users. The case is being heard in federal court in Manhattan.
Privacy advocates said that YouTube users' privacy rights would be violated if the information is released.
__________________
2007 BMW 335i E92, Montego Blue on Cream Beige, MT, ZSP, ZPP, CA, PDC, CWP and Style 188 for winter

offTopic - politics - ChoppedPhoto
scottwww is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      07-03-2008, 02:07 PM   #2
solefald
Nigerian Prince
 
solefald's Avatar
 
Drives: '11 F25
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: San Diego, CA

Posts: 2,171
iTrader: (2)

Garage List
'11 BMW F25  [0.00]
Most likely Google will appeal this. This decision reminds me of a judge ordering Pirate Bay (or Torrent Spy, i don't remember which one) to turn in information from their servers RAM. Yes.... RAM!


Now, pardon my ignorance, but if this is a copyright infringement case, why would they need IP and username info of users who WATCHED the videos and not users who POSTED them? I understand they may want to determine how many times copyright was violated, but why would it require an IP address and username?

So what if i watched a video that violated copyright? What are they going to do? Sue me? Bring it on, Viacom!
__________________
solefald is offline   Vatican City State
0
Reply With Quote
      07-03-2008, 02:27 PM   #3
Spool
******
 
Spool's Avatar
 
Drives: A few
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: DC Metro

Posts: 6,164
iTrader: (24)

Yup all this bullshit, land of the free?


This reminds me that the FBI flag certain books, and if you check out a series of it, they'll trace it back to you if a certain crime is committed and ur fucked...
__________________


MKIV 6spd 1000hp Club
Spool is offline   Vietnam
0
Reply With Quote
      07-03-2008, 02:28 PM   #4
iatacs19
Major General
 
iatacs19's Avatar
 
Drives: 335is
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Washington, DC

Posts: 5,208
iTrader: (6)

It's a misconception, we have no freedom, only liberty.
__________________
If at first you don't succeed, failure may be your style.


BMWCCA Referral
iatacs19 is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      07-03-2008, 05:56 PM   #5
DougLikesBMW
Fapmin
 
DougLikesBMW's Avatar
 
Drives: '03 E46 330Ci
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Plano, Texas

Posts: 2,661
iTrader: (0)

What the hell is all that shit saying?
DougLikesBMW is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      07-03-2008, 06:00 PM   #6
!Xoible
Banned
 
Drives: ....
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: .

Posts: 46,037
iTrader: (4)

Garage List
2008 M3  [3.50]
2007 335i  [4.50]
2008 528i  [4.00]
2006 Infiniti - G35 ...  [4.00]
wtf next they'll be going after post whores and their posts
!Xoible is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      07-03-2008, 06:05 PM   #7
scottwww
Brigadier General
 
scottwww's Avatar
 
Drives: 07 BMW 335i Cpe, 05 Mazda RX8
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: USA

Posts: 4,759
iTrader: (0)

Send a message via MSN to scottwww
Quote:
Originally Posted by DougLikesBMW View Post
What... is all that...saying?
It's saying that a judge ordered Google (the owner of YouTube.com) to hand over to the court a massive number of videos that are alleged to be in violation of copyright laws. Along with those videos, they would have to provide the electronic information that identifies everyone who uploaded or watched those videos.

Big brother is watching you watching YouTube. It reminds me of the ICU2 TV set. You think you are watching television, but what is also happening is they are watching what you are doing/watching. Maybe they will scrounge up some dirt.
__________________
2007 BMW 335i E92, Montego Blue on Cream Beige, MT, ZSP, ZPP, CA, PDC, CWP and Style 188 for winter

offTopic - politics - ChoppedPhoto
scottwww is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      07-03-2008, 06:07 PM   #8
!Xoible
Banned
 
Drives: ....
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: .

Posts: 46,037
iTrader: (4)

Garage List
2008 M3  [3.50]
2007 335i  [4.50]
2008 528i  [4.00]
2006 Infiniti - G35 ...  [4.00]
this way they can bust any person in the US, reason is "you have watched youtube at some point in your life"
!Xoible is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      07-03-2008, 06:11 PM   #9
Dubbedoutbimmer
Banned
 
Drives: 335XI Coupe Loaded w/body kit
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Boston

Posts: 1,313
iTrader: (-1)

Send a message via AIM to Dubbedoutbimmer
that all that bad porn you looked up will be displayed all over the courts
Dubbedoutbimmer is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      07-03-2008, 06:36 PM   #10
DougLikesBMW
Fapmin
 
DougLikesBMW's Avatar
 
Drives: '03 E46 330Ci
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Plano, Texas

Posts: 2,661
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by scottwww View Post
It's saying that a judge ordered Google (the owner of YouTube.com) to hand over to the court a massive number of videos that are alleged to be in violation of copyright laws. Along with those videos, they would have to provide the electronic information that identifies everyone who uploaded or watched those videos.

Big brother is watching you watching YouTube. It reminds me of the ICU2 TV set. You think you are watching television, but what is also happening is they are watching what you are doing/watching. Maybe they will scrounge up some dirt.
Ah thanks, they should've just said that. I don't see what the point of all this is, sounds pretty stupid. Don't we have more important things to do?

Anyways, I think we should all move to Italy, here's why:
[NSFW]
DougLikesBMW is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
Post Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:21 AM.




m3post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST