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      05-15-2008, 09:52 PM   #1
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Anyone Get Eisenhaus Exhaust For M3?

what you think of the exhaust the meisterscheft high performance gt w/e for 3500? anyone have it?
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korean built, backed by a fraudulant comany....
I dunno, the company often has a reflection on its products.
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I think most people refuse to purchase anything from eisenfraud especially their seoul special exhausts.
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if you want some bad quality exhaust for 3k ... and no warranty...
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but WHY?? Sounds sooo much better then eisenmann. I think eisenmann is crap compared to eisenhaus when comes to sound.It even looks nicer then eisenmann.Thats my opinion but whats this about warranty?
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what i also dont understand is eisenhaus has been making exhaust far longer then vorsteiner obviously and ppl would choose vorsteiner.I understand vorsteiner is good but eisenhaus is mainly exhaust.
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buy supersprint!! why buy a fake exhaust that no one will buy it from u if u dont like it? besides, the drone on that thing is horrible. so nasty man
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I guess I missed something...isn't eisenmann sold by eisenhaus? My question is probably going to get me flamed but whatevah...just want to know because I used to have the sport and it was awesome.

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cant find supersprint vids.will keep looking man I am soo lost I have the money down and have no clue what to buy! Help will be appreciated I am looking for LOUD like kreissig or w/e but not for that much budget is $4g's
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I guess I missed something...isn't eisenmann sold by eisenhaus? My question is probably going to get me flamed but whatevah...just want to know because I used to have the sport and it was awesome.

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no, eisenhoax lied. they bought cheap korean exhausts and sold them as "eisenmann" aka fraud
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no, eisenhoax lied. they bought cheap korean exhausts and sold them as "eisenmann" aka fraud

thanks man, I dug a little deeper and found the story...fukked up!

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i agree. i heard some clips of the eisenhaus and it def was one of my favorites! I don't understand how people call it a fake exhaust? what exactly is a fake exhaust? yeah yeah the company lied where they are produced and ruined some of their street credit. bottom line if the exhaust puts down on paper what other exhausts are performance wise, and sounds better, I don't care where it's made.

So if a plastic part that BMW uses in there cars was made in Korea, you wouldn't buy a BMW, because it wasn't officially created in Germany? Doesn't make sense to me... I would understand if the quality was horrible, but from my understanding the quality wasn't noticeable, just the label. So yes, bad business ethics, and could possibly ruin there company, but hey if they have the best exhaust i'd buy it....
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Eisenhaus is a fraud. They ripped me off and don't deserve our business. The system that they sell for $3000 is probably costing them $300.
No offense. I understand why you would be upset. I would probably be too. However, this is business. They found the place that can make their product for the lowest cost in order to bring in the most profits. Because you paid a certain price for whatever price they make it at doesn't mean they ripped you off...

However, when they lied, that is messed up I agree. I'm sure their business has suffered for doing so!
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No offense. I understand why you would be upset. I would probably be too. However, this is business. They found the place that can make their product for the lowest cost in order to bring in the most profits. Because you paid a certain price for whatever price they make it at doesn't mean they ripped you off...

However, when they lied, that is messed up I agree. I'm sure their business has suffered for doing so!
i don tknow where to start. business does not have to involve fraud!!!

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When I removed the exhaust from my 335 it had rust forming on it. If it was real stainless there would be no rust or oxidation. I will stand with a firm planted foot while saying that Eisenhaus is a fraud and they deserve nothing from anyone.

Here is another thread about the fraud. People on all BMW forums got ripped off by Eisenhaus. I'm surprised that they haven't been destroyed yet!
I never heard about the rust issue. If it was created from other materials, then yes that is even worse, and could be false advertising. I am not disagreeing with you when you said they deserve nothing. I agreed!

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i don tknow where to start. business does not have to involve fraud!!!
I was replying to the post that he paid $3k for an exhaust that was constructed for $300. That is not fraud. Paying a msrp price for an item that was obviously created by the manufacturer for a fraction of the price is not fraud.
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i dont care where its made as long as its good quality but if its gonna rust and shit then thats an iffy now. I am lost
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lol the thing about the black plague was that there was no way of preventing it... but atleast we can control our inner selves with eisenhaus even though the exhaust does sound amazing
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i dont care where its made as long as its good quality but if its gonna rust and shit then thats an iffy now. I am lost
Well Eisenhaus will tell you that their systems are the best on the market. But the fact still remains that they are based on Eisenmann systems and up until Feb 08 were sold under that name. Despite having no permission from Eisenmann, Eisenhaus used their name, designs, serial numbers, and counless outher bits.

Just for the disrespect and arrogance they show I will never support Eisenhaus again !!!

If your smart you'll stay away from them! wait till Evosport and Riss racing come out with full systems.
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Well Eisenhaus will tell you that their systems are the best on the market. But the fact still remains that they are based on Eisenmann systems and up until Feb 08 were sold under that name. Despite having no permission from Eisenmann, Eisenhaus used their name, designs, serial numbers, and counless outher bits.

Just for the disrespect and arrogance they show I will never support Eisenhaus again !!!

If your smart you'll stay away from them! wait till Evosport and Riss racing come out with full systems.

Well Actually they didnít use Eisenmann Official Brand name in their Products.I believe the concept was to sell EISENMANN MEISTERSCHAFT GT Exhaust which is NOT EISENMANN...so just in case the fraud would go public they wont have a legal Impact from the German Company...

...this is bad, short-term, Business strategy if you ask me for a Company like Eisenhaus .Anyway People make choices...maybe they should redeem their selves with some special prices for a extended period of time and admit their false decision. Doing something is better that doing nothing....
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These liars had "EISENMANN" stamped all over the muflers that were made in Korea. If that's not "using Eisenmann Official Brand name in their products" than I don't know what is! They called the genuine Eisenmann 335i systems by the name Moueisterschaft and the fake systems that were made in Korea were stamped with "Eisenmann" and sold as Eisenmann. They should shut Eisenhaus down and lose the German names for all of the Korean products. Tricking the consumer is not the way to win customers.
I believe they sold Genuine Eisenmann Meisterscehaft GT Exhaust and NOT Genuine Eisenmann.This is why they dont have any major Legal Impact from Eisenmann...but they surely lost a Great Market share....so what i was saying is...that maybe they should do something about it...That is if they want to still be in the Business..
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