Euro Front Bumper Cover

gasman · 04-23-2008, 01:33 PM

Secondary to my recent misfortune with my front end, I have been giving some serious thought to replacing my front bumper with the Euro cover. What is the downside to having one? Will my car still pass future inspections? Are tickets very likely and if so, how would I do a fix-it ticket? Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Jinxter · 04-23-2008, 01:42 PM

you would have absolutly no problem with teh euro bumper.
Its just law to have the car built to specs but once the vehicle is owned by a person that is all up to you. So no fix it tickets, no future inspections.

You do have options though.

Euro F bumper with only headlight washer
Euro F bumper with headlight washer and PDC
Euro F bumper without any options
Euro F bumper with only PDC

if I was in that position I would go for the fully loaded F bumper considering I already have the headlight washers it would be nice to add the front PDC. Although would cost more.

Now I wonder if the car is prewired for front PDC just like its prewired for rear fog lights

gasman · 04-23-2008, 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jinxter

you would have absolutly no problem with teh euro bumper.
Its just law to have the car built to specs but once the vehicle is owned by a person that is all up to you. So no fix it tickets, no future inspections.

You do have options though.

Euro F bumper with only headlight washer
Euro F bumper with headlight washer and PDC
Euro F bumper without any options
Euro F bumper with only PDC

if I was in that position I would go for the fully loaded F bumper considering I already have the headlight washers it would be nice to add the front PDC. Although would cost more.

Now I wonder if the car is prewired for front PDC just like its prewired for rear fog lights

Thanks for the info. I did not get PDC for the rear and I also did not get the headlight washers. I guess I'll go with the bumper with no options.

Shade · 04-23-2008, 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jinxter

you would have absolutly no problem with teh euro bumper.
Its just law to have the car built to specs but once the vehicle is owned by a person that is all up to you. So no fix it tickets, no future inspections.

You do have options though.

Euro F bumper with only headlight washer
Euro F bumper with headlight washer and PDC
Euro F bumper without any options
Euro F bumper with only PDC

if I was in that position I would go for the fully loaded F bumper considering I already have the headlight washers it would be nice to add the front PDC. Although would cost more.

Now I wonder if the car is prewired for front PDC just like its prewired for rear fog lights

Where can you get them ?

GregW / Oregon · 04-23-2008, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ShadeM3

Where can you get them ?

Should be available through your dealer at some point. Last I checked there was no price listing for them yet. Evosport was also looking into it for me.

Socale92 · 04-23-2008, 03:10 PM

boy it would be great to get some solid info on the euro bumper....

KonigsTiger · 04-23-2008, 03:14 PM

Here´s a pic of the Euro Bumper, I´m sure these can be ordered from Mexico:

gasman · 04-23-2008, 04:23 PM

I spoke to the body shop and they are going to order it for me.

Jinxter · 04-23-2008, 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GregW / Oregon

Should be available through your dealer at some point. Last I checked there was no price listing for them yet. Evosport was also looking into it for me.

my dealer had pricing. they are all very similar and around $550 range. I dont remeber for sure I think I listed it somewhere here on the boards. You can order them according to my dealer.

Jinxter · 04-23-2008, 04:43 PM

here is the thread listing our prices.

Post #14

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthr...t=front+bumper

JEllis · 04-23-2008, 04:46 PM

I would imagine the car is prewired for both front and rear PDC... just my guess

GregW / Oregon · 04-23-2008, 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jinxter

my dealer had pricing. they are all very similar and around $550 range. I dont remeber for sure I think I listed it somewhere here on the boards. You can order them according to my dealer.

Would you be so kind as to get more specific info.? I need part number and price for basic cover, no washers or PDC. Also, what is his source. My parts guy says it is not in their system as of today.

KonigsTiger · 04-23-2008, 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gasman

I spoke to the body shop and they are going to order it for me.

Haha!! Great!!

Ken.T · 04-23-2008, 11:12 PM

Can I order one in Seattle..?

Davinhci · 04-23-2008, 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JEllis

I would imagine the car is prewired for both front and rear PDC... just my guess

can anyone verify this?

Shade · 04-24-2008, 12:36 AM

I dont understand why US cancel the front PDC. i think it helps alot of ppl. Plus its a big plus for ppl who lowered (dropped) their car !

gasman · 04-24-2008, 11:39 AM

Here's the part number for the Plain Euro Bumper Cover with no PDC and no washers.

51118043960

I got it from Bavarian Autosport (800-535-2002)

Keto · 04-24-2008, 11:52 AM

I would love to have front PDC if for nothing else than the cool I-drive graphics when parking.

AwesomeM3 · 04-24-2008, 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShadeM3

I dont understand why US cancel the front PDC. i think it helps alot of ppl. Plus its a big plus for ppl who lowered (dropped) their car !

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keto

I would love to have front PDC if for nothing else than the cool I-drive graphics when parking.

Excerpt taken from Skierman64's thread regarding the BMW CCA meeting we attended with M Brand Manager Larry Koch speaking:

22. Why wasn't front PDC offered in the US.
He doesn't know for sure, however when you develop a new front fascia to fit the front PDC sensors, the car must be crash tested with the new sensors in the fascia. The crash test rules aren't the same in the EU and don't require another crash test.

KonigsTiger · 04-24-2008, 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AwesomeM3

Excerpt taken from Skierman64's thread regarding the BMW CCA meeting we attended with M Brand Manager Larry Koch speaking:

22. Why wasn't front PDC offered in the US.
He doesn't know for sure, however when you develop a new front fascia to fit the front PDC sensors, the car must be crash tested with the new sensors in the fascia. The crash test rules aren't the same in the EU and don't require another crash test.

So finally a good response to why it isn't offered in the USA. But this thing about "I don´t know for sure" worries me. He should know everything!!! Oh well.

GregW / Oregon · 04-24-2008, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by BMW-M-Mexico

So finally a good response to why it isn't offered in the USA. But this thing about "I don´t know for sure" worries me. He should know everything!!! Oh well.

I don't buy that reason. A few little nickel-sized sensors with some wiring are not going require a new crash test. I think he was groping.

KonigsTiger · 04-24-2008, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by GregW / Oregon

I don't buy that reason. A few little nickel-sized sensors with some wiring are not going require a new crash test. I think he was groping.

Yea could be he was groping, I wouldn´t doubt it considering the responses he gave to several questions. You know, "I don´t know this, I don´t know that", what the h is that? He should know a lot more IMO. But anyway, although it makes sense that some puny little sensors should probably not alter anything, what other reasonable response is there?

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04-23-2008, 01:42 PM	#2
Jinxter Lieutenant Drives: 2008 BMW e92 M3 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Walnut Creek, California Posts: 490 iTrader: (0)	you would have absolutly no problem with teh euro bumper. Its just law to have the car built to specs but once the vehicle is owned by a person that is all up to you. So no fix it tickets, no future inspections. You do have options though. Euro F bumper with only headlight washer Euro F bumper with headlight washer and PDC Euro F bumper without any options Euro F bumper with only PDC if I was in that position I would go for the fully loaded F bumper considering I already have the headlight washers it would be nice to add the front PDC. Although would cost more. Now I wonder if the car is prewired for front PDC just like its prewired for rear fog lights __________________

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KonigsTiger Racying Dynamics Drives: E92M3 RS46 Club Sport, others Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Dweller Posts: 4,398 iTrader: (0)	Here´s a pic of the Euro Bumper, I´m sure these can be ordered from Mexico: Attached Images __________________ ==================================================

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Jinxter Lieutenant Drives: 2008 BMW e92 M3 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Walnut Creek, California Posts: 490 iTrader: (0)	here is the thread listing our prices. Post #14 http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthr...t=front+bumper __________________

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Socale92 DCT Test Pilot Drives: ???? Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: los angeles Posts: 559 iTrader: (1)	boy it would be great to get some solid info on the euro bumper....

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JEllis Brigadier General Drives: E36 M3, 997S Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: San Diego Posts: 3,380 iTrader: (1)	I would imagine the car is prewired for both front and rear PDC... just my guess __________________

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Shade Captain Drives: 12 AW F10 M5 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Chicago / Hong Kong Posts: 900 iTrader: (1)	I dont understand why US cancel the front PDC. i think it helps alot of ppl. Plus its a big plus for ppl who lowered (dropped) their car ! __________________ 08 E92 M3 AW M-DCT 09 INDxRENN-SPEC Project GT-R

04-24-2008, 11:39 AM	#17
gasman Member Drives: 08 RR Sport SC, 08 AW/FR M3 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 505 iTrader: (0)	Here's the part number for the Plain Euro Bumper Cover with no PDC and no washers. 51118043960 I got it from Bavarian Autosport (800-535-2002) __________________

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Keto Major Drives: 550i M-sport AW Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: N'awlins Posts: 1,089 iTrader: (1)	I would love to have front PDC if for nothing else than the cool I-drive graphics when parking. __________________ '11 550i, pics soon

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