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      03-16-2008, 08:59 PM   #45
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does anyone here like G.W Bush ?
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Clinton Death List

The following is a partial list of deaths of persons connected to President Clinton during his tenure as Governor of Arkansas and/or while President of the United States and thereafter. Read the list and judge for yourself.

BARBARA OLSON - Author of "Hell to Pay" - a book critical of Hillary Clinton, killed in the Pentagon bombing.

DARLENE NOVINGER - Former FBI operative, January 23rd, 2003. Novinger was known to hold sensitive information on the Clinton and Bush I administration's drug operations. Her husband murdered March 1987 when she went public with initial reports. Her father died July 8, 1993 four hours after Darlene was a guest on the Tom Valentine show. Suffered retaliation after reporting discussions by government protected drug smuggler who described contacts with Vice President George Bush and his son, Jeb Bush.

DAN MULLONEY, a television news photographer who shot footage of the 1993 Branch Davidian siege.

CHARLES RUFF - White House Counsel and Clinton defense attorney during the Monica Lewinsky scandal and the impeachment trial. Of apparent natural causes.

JAMES MCDOUGAL - Clinton's convicted Whitewater partner died of an apparent heart attack, while in solitary confinement. McDougal was a key witness in Kenneth Starr's investigation.

MARY MAHONEY - A former White House intern was murdered July 6, 1997 at a Starbucks Coffee Shop in Georgetown. The murder happened during the pre-trial publicity surrounding the Paula Jones lawsuit days after Newsweek's Mike Isakoff dropped hints that a former White House staffer was about to go public with her story of sexual harassment in the White House.

VINCENT FOSTER - Former White House counselor, and former colleague of Hillary Clinton at Little Rock's Rose law firm. Foster was found dead July 20, 1993 of a gunshot to the head ruled a suicide. Rumours were that Foster and Hillary had an affair.

RON BROWN - Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman. Reported to have died by impact in a plane crash. A pathologist close to the investigation reported to the Bob Grant Radio Show a hole in top of Brown's skull resembling a gunshot wound. At the time of his death Brown was being investigated, and spoke publicly of his willingness to cut a deal with prosecutors.

C. VICTOR RAISER II - Former National finance Co-Chairman, Clinton for President Campaign and son MONTGOMERY RAISER died in a private plane crash in Alaska, July 30th,1992. Raiser was described as a major player in the Clinton organization by Dee Dee Meyers.

JEREMY "MIKE" BOORDA, President Clinton's former Chief of Naval Operations allegedly committed suicide by shooting himself in the chest with a .38 caliber pistol on his front lawn in May 1996. The unauthorized wearing of valor pins was the alleged reasoning behind the suicide. By 1998 this reasoning was proved false after the Navy issued a report that said Boorda earned the right to wear the pins afterall.

PAUL TULLEY - Democrat National Committee Political Director found dead in a hotel room in Little Rock, Arkansas September 24, 1992, Described by Clinton as a "Dear friend and trusted advisor".

ED WILLEY - Clinton fund raiser-found dead November 30, 1993 deep in the woods in Virginia of a gunshot wound to the head. Ruled a suicide, Willey died on the same day his wife Kathleen Willey claimed that Bill Clinton groped her in the oval office in the White House. Ed Willey was involved in several Clinton fund raising events.

JERRY PARKS - Head of Clinton's gubernatorial security team in Little Rock. Gunned down in his car at a deserted intersection outside Little Rock. Parks' son said his father was building a dossier on Clinton. He allegedly threatened to reveal this information. After he died the files were mysteriously removed from his house

JAMES BUNCH - Died from a gunshot wound. Reported to have a black book of people containing names of influential people who visited prostitutes in Texas and Arkansas.

JAMES WILSON - Was found dead by hanging May 18, 1993. Was reported to have ties to Whitewater.

KATHY FERGUSON - Ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson died in May,1994 was found dead in her living room with a gunshot wound to her head. It was ruled a suicide even though there were several packed suitcases, as if she was going somewhere. Danny Ferguson was a co-defendant along with Bill Clinton in the Paula Corbin Jones lawsuit. She was reported a possible corroborating witness for Paula Jones case.

BILL SHELTON - Arkansas state Trooper and Fiancee of Kathy Ferguson.Critical of the suicide ruling of his fiancee, he was found dead in June, 1994 of a gunshot wound also ruled a suicide at the grave site of his fiancee.

GANDY BAUGH - Attorney for Clinton friend Dan Lassater died by falling out a window of a tall building January, 1991. His client was a convicted drug distributor.

FLORENCE MARTIN - Accountant subcontractor for the CIA related to the Barry Seal Mena Airport drug smuggling case. Dead of three gunshot wounds.

SUZANNE COLEMAN - Reportedly had an affair with Clinton when he was Arkansas Attorney General. Died of a gunshot wound to back of head, ruled a suicide, was pregnant at the time her death.

PAULA GROBER - Clinton's speech interpreter for the deaf from 1978 until her death December 9, 1992. She died in a one car accident.

DANNY CASOLARO - Investigative reporter, investigating Mena airport and Arkansas Development Finance Authority. Found dead with slit his wrists in the middle of his investigation.

PAUL WILCHER - Attorney investigating corruption at Mena Airport with Casolaro and the 1980 "October Surprise" was found dead on a toilet June 22, 1993 in his Washington DC Apartment. Had delivered report to Janet Reno 3 weeks before his death.

JON PARNELL WALKER - Whitewater Investigator for Resolution Trust Corporation. Fell to his death from his Arlington, Virginia apartment balcony August 15, 1993. Was investigating Morgan Guarantee scandal.

BARBARA WISE - Commerce Department Staffer, worked closely with Ron Brown and John Huang. Cause of death unknown. Died November 29, 1996. Her bruised nude body was found locked in her office at the Department of Commerce.

CHARLES MEISSNER - Assistant Secretary of Commerce who gave John Huang special security clearance, died shortly thereafter in a small plane crash.

DR.STANLEY HEARD - Chair National Chiropractic Heath Care Advisory committee died with his attorney.

STEVE DICKSON - Died in a small plane crash. Heard, in addition to serving on Clinton's advisory council personally treated Clinton's mother, stepfather and brother.

BARRY SEAL - Drug running pilot out of Mena, Arkansas. Death was no accident.

JOHNNY LAWHORN Jr. - Mechanic, found a check made out to Clinton in the trunk of a car left in his repair shop. Died when his car hit a utility pole.

STANLEY MUGGINS - Suicide. Investigated Madison Guarantee. His report was never released.

HERSHELL FRIDAY - Attorney and Clinton fund raiser died March 1, 1994 when his plane exploded.

KEVIN IVES and DON HENRY - Known as "The boys on the track" case. Reports say the boys may have stumbled upon the Mena Arkansas Airport Drug operation. This controversial case where initial report of death was due to falling asleep on railroad track. Later reports claim the two had been slain before being placed on the tracks. Many people linked to the case died (see below) before their testimony could come before a Grand Jury.

THE FOLLOWING SIX PERSONS HAD INFORMATION ON THE IVES/HENRY CASE:

KEITH CONEY - Died when his motorcycle slammed into the back of a truck in July, 1988.
KEITH McMASKLE - Died, stabbed 113 times, November 1988.
GREGORY COLLINS - Died from a gunshot wound, January 1989.
JEFF RHODES - He was shot, mutilated and found burned in a trash dump in April 1989.
JAMES MILAN. Found decapitated-Coroner ruled death due to natural causes.
JORDAN KETTLESON - Was found shot to death in the front seat of his pickup truck in June 1990.
RICHARD WINTERS - Winters was a suspect in the Ives/Henry deaths. Was killed in set-up robbery in July 1989.

THE FOLLOWING FORMER CLINTON BODYGUARDS ARE DEAD:
- MAJOR WILLIAM S. BARKLEY JR.
- CAPTAIN SCOTT J.REYNOLDS
- SGT. BRIAN HANEY
- SGT. TIM SABEL
- MAJOR GENERAL WILLIAM ROBERTSON
- COL. WILLIAM DENSBERGER
- COL. ROBERT KELLY
- SPEC. GARY RHODES
- STEVE WILLIS
- ROBERT WILLIAMS
- CONWAY LeBLEU
- TODD McKEEHAN

And finally, BUDDY, the Presidential Dog, killed when he was struck by a car after having escaped his kennel.
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^ Are you suggesting that Clinton is responsible for all these deaths?
If not, what's your point?
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^ Are you suggesting that Clinton is responsible for all these deaths?
If not, what's your point?
What do you make of it? I was just reading through a forum on politico.com and somebody had copied this into the comments (along with some of their own). It looked a bit interesting, so I found the source and copied it here along with the link. Certainly some of these (if not all) have some story behind them. One that immediately comes to mind is Vince Foster.

Also, watch the 12 youtube videos at the very beginning of this thread. There are a lot of names and a little more detail than this list. I started to make some notes, but I don't plan on doing more this evening.

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Fired every U.S. Attorney in the U.S. Dismissed FBI Director.
Bill Clinton protested by sleeping in a tree. He was a moocher. John Copold dies under circusstances that were unclear. Frank Aller "suicide" in 1971.

Hillary Rodham founded "Yale Review of Law and Social Action".
Charlene Wilson testified she watched Roger Clinton pass cocaine to Bill in 1990. Sex parties with teenage girls.
In 1983 and 1984 narcotics officer videotaped Roger Clinton saying "Got to get some for my brother. He's got a nose like a vacumn cleaner."
Gene Wurgis exposed ballot box stuffing.

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Bill Garon accused Clinton of being a draft dodger because of renegging on his ROTC commitment. Col. Eugene Holmes presented letter to the press.
Extramarital affairs with 100s of women.
Lookup L.D. Brown (state trooper). Larry Patterson bodyguard for six years witnessed department store clerk do BJ on Cliton. Gathered women's phone numbers for Clinton. He was a pimp for Clinton.

Clinton said, "Larry, you may be required to lie, to steal, to kill to cover me."

Attempts to silence Roger Perry, Danny Ferguson, Ronnie Anderson.

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Whitewater with Jim and Susan McDougal. People who invested in Whitewater when defaulted more than 30 days, they lost all their equity in the land. Clyde Soats (?). He paid $12,000 out of $14,000 price and lost all his equity.

Cattle Futures trading by Hillary. From $1000 gained over $5000 in a days. By July 1979 had over $100,000. That 10,000% return was more than five times the rate of profit of other investors who bought when she did and sold at the peak of the market. Economists ran statistical models. Probability of HRC having made trades her legimately were less than 1 in 250,000,000.

Beverly Enterprises with the Rose Law Firm made millions on tax exempt state bonds. Attorney General Steve Clark was offered $100,000 in campaign money as a bribe to drop opposition to their attempt to purchase 32 norsing homes.

Dan Lasater was awarded $30,000,000 bond. He was charged with cocaine trafficking He conspired with Roger Clinton. Bill Clinton pardoned him.
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That death list has been debunked so many times it isn't even entertaining anymore. Check it out on snopes.

Some of the people listed are actually dead, but VERY few died in conditions that are even remotely mysterious.

Are the Clintons scumbags that epitomize everything that's wrong with American politics? You bet. Murderers? No.
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What do you make of it? I was just reading through a forum on politico.com and somebody had copied this into the comments (along with some of their own). It looked a bit interesting, so I found the source and copied it here along with the link.

Dan Lasater was awarded $30,000,000 bond. He was charged with cocaine trafficking He conspired with Roger Clinton. Bill Clinton pardoned him.

It's a conspiracy theory gone wild. Of course Clintons are lying cheating hardcore crooks, but that doesn't make them serial killers.

That's the same pattern that you follow with your faith. Always the extreme scenarios and drama. Why not look for a more realistic explanation?

As for pardoning Dan Lasater, presidents do favors like these all the time.



"President Bush's commutation of Libby's prison sentence became the subject of a hearing on "The Use and Misuse of Presidential Clemency Power for Executive Branch Officials" held by the U.S. House Judiciary Committee, chaired by Representative John Conyers, Jr., on July 11, 2007.

On December 10, 2007, Libby's lawyers announced that he would drop his appeal of his conviction in "the CIA leak case," leaving intact his remaining sentence and fine and leaving on his record his felony convictions (unless he is granted a full pardon by President Bush).

The next day, December 11, 2007, President Bush issued 29 pardons but did not include Libby among them."
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It's a conspiracy theory gone wild. Of course Clintons are lying cheating hardcore crooks, but that doesn't make them serial killers.

That's the same pattern that you follow with your faith. Always the extreme scenarios and drama. Why not look for a more realistic explanation?

As for pardoning Dan Lasater, presidents do favors like these all the time.



"President Bush's commutation of Libby's prison sentence became the subject of a hearing on "The Use and Misuse of Presidential Clemency Power for Executive Branch Officials" held by the U.S. House Judiciary Committee, chaired by Representative John Conyers, Jr., on July 11, 2007.

On December 10, 2007, Libby's lawyers announced that he would drop his appeal of his conviction in "the CIA leak case," leaving intact his remaining sentence and fine and leaving on his record his felony convictions (unless he is granted a full pardon by President Bush).

The next day, December 11, 2007, President Bush issued 29 pardons but did not include Libby among them."

Dubya will give Libby a full pardon, before leaving office.

Libby was just the fall guy for the despicable Bush White House. Bush will take good care of his 'scapegoat'.
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