E90 M3 sedan, a better performer than the E92?

chicagobimmerboy · 03-14-2008, 06:25 PM

Now that the M3 sedan (saloon) is being unleased and test driven most of the publications and magazines are posting better performance figures than they did with the E92. I know the sedan is still top of the tree along with the coupe and its engineering proves it, I mean it only weighs 50lbs more than the coupe. But Why is it quicker, have the press guys gotten used to the M3 and know how to more aggressively better?

Either way it still kicks ass, though the purists may call it a sell out.

RandyB · 03-14-2008, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Laszlo

And absolutely better looking too.

Link?

J/k!

lvwirelessguy · 03-14-2008, 06:49 PM

The M3 Coupe is where it all started.

I have the M5 already so to me the M3 Sedan is an M5 lite

JEllis · 03-14-2008, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by chicagobimmerboy

Now that the M3 sedan (saloon) is being unleased and test driven most of the publications and magazines are posting better performance figures than they did with the E92. I know the sedan is still top of the tree along with the coupe and its engineering proves it, I mean it only weighs 50lbs more than the coupe. But Why is it quicker, have the press guys gotten used to the M3 and know how to more aggressively better?

Either way it still kicks ass, though the purists may call it a sell out.

To really compare two cars they needed to be tested in identical conditions with identical drivers. Just because the E90 did better in one test doesnt mean its better all the time or in every environment.

Jason

msing · 03-14-2008, 10:14 PM

e92 M3 = jessica alba
e90 M3 = jessica biel

so this argument is pointless. doesn't matter which one you pick, you will end up with something HOT.

now flame away! lol

mkoesel · 03-14-2008, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Laszlo

Sedans have a stiffer chassis which is factual...

Contradicts E92 debut press material; coupe 30% stiffer.

e36jakeo · 03-14-2008, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Laszlo

But it is fact, that the 1988 M5 sedan was both faster and handled better than the e30 M3 coupe and the M6 coupe.

Huh? The E30 M3 coupe was (and still is) one of the best handling, most entertaining drives around.

mkoesel · 03-14-2008, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Laszlo

Are you sure they weren't saying the e92 M3 is 30% stiffer than the e46 coupe?

I find it hard to believe the coupe would be 30% than the sedan in the e9x line up.

I cannot find the BMW source, but here's two reviews:

http://www.roadandtrack.com/article....rticle_id=3948
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=116129

My memory failed me, its 25% not 30%.

sayemthree · 03-15-2008, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by e36jakeo

Huh? The E30 M3 coupe was (and still is) one of the best handling, most entertaining drives around.

x2 - coupes always are stiffer due to the larger door openings required for four doors (without weight adding reinforcement)

best test for the coupe I have seen is 0-60 in 4.1 which bests the recent sedan test.

the coupe is almost 2 inches lower than the sedan and with CF roof vs moonroof it will have a lower center of gravity. the copue also has closer to 50-50 wt balance so the coupe should handle better too.

its awesome the provide a choice but the coupe should have a slight edge in performence.

gorun · 03-15-2008, 01:57 AM

E92 will be faster its just physics

Leg · 03-15-2008, 02:39 AM

This forum is going downhill

MrHarris · 03-15-2008, 02:52 AM

e46 sedans are stiffer than the coupes but with the e90/92's, the coupe is claimed to be stiffer by 25% compared to the sedan

Serious · 03-15-2008, 03:58 AM

[quote=Laszlo;2308872]

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Originally Posted by sayemthree

x2 - coupes always are stiffer due to the larger door openings required for four doors (without weight adding reinforcement)QUOTE]

But wasn't the e46 sedan stiffer than the e46 coupe due to the b-pillar location?

IIRC that only applies to sedan's w/o fold down rear seats. i think all coupe e46's had fold down rear seats.

hypothetically coupe w/o fold down rear seats = stiff as sedan w/o fold down rear seats.

par4bmw · 03-15-2008, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by chicagobimmerboy

Now that the M3 sedan (saloon) is being unleased and test driven most of the publications and magazines are posting better performance figures than they did with the E92. I know the sedan is still top of the tree along with the coupe and its engineering proves it, I mean it only weighs 50lbs more than the coupe. But Why is it quicker, have the press guys gotten used to the M3 and know how to more aggressively better?

Either way it still kicks ass, though the purists may call it a sell out.

BMWs own measurements have the coupe .1 secs faster. They make notice to it a couple of times in the M3 brochure.

Sedan_Clan · 03-15-2008, 02:07 PM

I like them both, but I'm opting for the sedan.

sayemthree · 03-15-2008, 04:38 PM

[quote=Laszlo;2308872]

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Originally Posted by sayemthree

x2 - coupes always are stiffer due to the larger door openings required for four doors (without weight adding reinforcement)QUOTE]

But wasn't the e46 sedan stiffer than the e46 coupe due to the b-pillar location?

no - e36 coupe was stiffer.

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lvwirelessguy Captain Drives: 2011 E92 M3, 2012 Golf TDI Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 702 Posts: 946 iTrader: (1) Garage List 2005 M3 [0.00]	The M3 Coupe is where it all started. I have the M5 already so to me the M3 Sedan is an M5 lite

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msing Private Drives: 330i Join Date: May 2007 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 60 iTrader: (0)	e92 M3 = jessica alba e90 M3 = jessica biel so this argument is pointless. doesn't matter which one you pick, you will end up with something HOT. now flame away! lol

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