Please Describe Your Idea of a Christian....

GH32335i · 03-10-2008, 05:50 PM

Just curious as to what your description of a Christian would be.

I'll wait for all the compliments!!

its ray den · 03-10-2008, 09:57 PM

oh no...

e90im · 03-10-2008, 11:34 PM

Ted Haggard,

In November 2006, he resigned or was removed from all of his leadership positions after allegations of homosexual sex and drug abuse were made by Mike Jones, a former prostitute. Initially Haggard denied even knowing Mike Jones, but as a media investigation proceeded he acknowledged that some allegations, such as his purchase of methamphetamine, were true. He later added "sexual immorality" to his list of confessions.[2]

E82tt6 · 03-11-2008, 05:30 AM

The same as any other of the Abrahamic Religions.

The majority of those who practice have a positive influence, unifying people, providing support, and helping their community.

There is also a fairly large group of extremists, or orthodox practicers, that have a negative influence, by contesting that their form of worship is the only correct one, and generally preaching theocracy, bigotry, and other socially destructive practices.

The smallest groupe would be the violent extremists. The religiously motivated terrorists that all all Abrahamic faiths seem to produce along the fringes.

Very difficult to make a generalized statement about any religion. Too many different kinds of people practice.

Negotiator · 03-11-2008, 10:49 AM

I'm curious why you chose a Christian as opposed to any other religion. Do you feel that atheists are targetting Christians specifically?

Religious people in general are like any other group of people with a common belief, harmless until they open their mouth.

hks786 · 03-11-2008, 12:40 PM

Yeah I wonder why the thread is about Christians? Hmm...

If I was to answer though I'd say a Christian is who keeps the commandments and follows the example of Prophet Jesus (AS) as it is clearly recorded in the Bible. He kept fasts, he prayed with his forehead on the ground like all the other prophets in the Bible, he didnt eat pork or become drunk. He also grew a beard.

He remembered God at all times and testified that ultimate power and all knowledge is with God. He reveals it to whom he pleases. Knowledge like that of the last hour is only with God. He healed those blind, diseased and even gave life to the dead by the power God GAVE him.

The ironic thing is that as a Muslim I have NO problem with admitting any of the above. Infact it is perfectly inline with Islam

E82tt6 · 03-11-2008, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by hks786

The ironic thing is that as a Muslim I have NO problem with admitting any of the above. Infact it is perfectly inline with Islam

Indeed. The three Abrahamic religions are all remarkably similar.

The only thing that gives practitioners of a given religion a bad name, is the actions of those who do and say idiotic things using religion as a justification.

GH32335i · 03-11-2008, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by hks786

Yeah I wonder why the thread is about Christians? Hmm...

If I was to answer though I'd say a Christian is who keeps the commandments and follows the example of Prophet Jesus (AS) as it is clearly recorded in the Bible. He kept fasts, he prayed with his forehead on the ground like all the other prophets in the Bible, he didnt eat pork or become drunk. He also grew a beard.

He remembered God at all times and testified that ultimate power and all knowledge is with God. He reveals it to whom he pleases. Knowledge like that of the last hour is only with God. He healed those blind, diseased and even gave life to the dead by the power God GAVE him.

The ironic thing is that as a Muslim I have NO problem with admitting any of the above. Infact it is perfectly inline with Islam

Gotta ask. Why the (AS) after everytime you type Jesus?

E82tt6 · 03-11-2008, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by GH32335i

Gotta ask. Why the (AS) after everytime you type Jesus?

I wonder this myself. I know Muslims use this and other parantheticals when describing Prophets. Muhammad's name, if I'm not mistaken, is often follwed by (S).

hks786 · 03-11-2008, 03:06 PM

Good questions. I'll explain the different abbreviations you might see. We Muslims never say a Prophets name just as it is...

(PBUH) - This stands for "Peace be upon him".
(SAW) - This is arabic for "Sallalahu Aleyhi Wasallam" which means "May the Peace and Blessings of Allah (God) be upon him"
(AS) - This is arabic for "Alayhi Salaam" which means "upon him be peace".

The 1st and 3rd are given to Prophets of Allah but the 2nd one is recited after the Holy Prophet (SAW)'s name.

phantom330 · 03-11-2008, 03:27 PM

cult member

UncleWede · 03-11-2008, 05:18 PM

It's in the name: Beleif that Christ Jesus came to Earth as the only begotten son of God, lived a sinless life, was crucified, died, buried, and rose from the dead after three days to open the gates to heaven for all the sinners who beleive in him. The key is BELEIF. Not acts of kindness, not how many alms were given to the poor, not haw many children you molest.

e90im · 03-11-2008, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by UncleWede

It's in the name: Beleif that Christ Jesus came to Earth as the only begotten son of God, lived a sinless life, was crucified, died, buried, and rose from the dead after three days to open the gates to heaven for all the sinners who beleive in him. The key is BELEIF. Not acts of kindness, not how many alms were given to the poor, not haw many children you molest.

Ain't that the scary truth.

dr335is · 03-11-2008, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by GH32335i

Gotta ask. Why the (AS) after everytime you type Jesus?

he meant to put ASS...

its ray den · 03-12-2008, 07:51 AM

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The key is BELEIF. Not acts of kindness, not how many alms were given to the poor, not haw many children you molest.

the key is not belief. even the devil believes in God, yet he's not saved. the key is faith, which is much different. faith encompasses even more than just believing something is true. faith produces good works. so if you know people who call themselves a christian, and are really bad, crappy people, then you ought to question his faith.

E90jason · 03-12-2008, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by its ray den

the key is not belief. even the devil believes in God, yet he's not saved. the key is faith, which is much different. faith encompasses even more than just believing something is true. faith produces good works. so if you know people who call themselves a christian, and are really bad, crappy people, then you ought to question his faith.

That's what I learned...

GH32335i · 03-12-2008, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by dr325i

he meant to put ASS...

There's a special place waiting for you.

dr335is · 03-12-2008, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by GH32335i

There's a special place waiting for you.

I've lived in Texas..no more for me...

E90jason · 03-12-2008, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by GH32335i

There's a special place waiting for you.

Good job judging people...

Chunga · 03-12-2008, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by hks786

Yeah I wonder why the thread is about Christians? Hmm...

If I was to answer though I'd say a Christian is who keeps the commandments and follows the example of Prophet Jesus (AS) as it is clearly recorded in the Bible. He kept fasts, he prayed with his forehead on the ground like all the other prophets in the Bible, he didnt eat pork or become drunk. He also grew a beard.

He remembered God at all times and testified that ultimate power and all knowledge is with God. He reveals it to whom he pleases. Knowledge like that of the last hour is only with God. He healed those blind, diseased and even gave life to the dead by the power God GAVE him.

The ironic thing is that as a Muslim I have NO problem with admitting any of the above. Infact it is perfectly inline with Islam

Christian beleave in God - and Jesus is his son. Thats it. Why do we have to do what he did?
As we read the bible we just have to be good people and do good things.
The bible is a guidense - not a book to follow side by side. That would be realy stupid and the world would not move for 2000 years.
Pork and alcohol? - you can make it - its for your pleasure. Where do Jesus say that you must not eat pork? - or drink?
Only extremists follows the bible word for word. Remember. Its a story written by people and its 2000 years old. Lots of things changed sinse then.

UncleWede · 03-12-2008, 05:23 PM

I guess I misspoke, but I often interchange belief and faith.

e90im · 03-12-2008, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by GH32335i

There's a special place waiting for you.

Are you German?

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hks786 Major General Drives: * Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: UK Posts: 5,313 iTrader: (0)	Yeah I wonder why the thread is about Christians? Hmm... If I was to answer though I'd say a Christian is who keeps the commandments and follows the example of Prophet Jesus (AS) as it is clearly recorded in the Bible. He kept fasts, he prayed with his forehead on the ground like all the other prophets in the Bible, he didnt eat pork or become drunk. He also grew a beard. He remembered God at all times and testified that ultimate power and all knowledge is with God. He reveals it to whom he pleases. Knowledge like that of the last hour is only with God. He healed those blind, diseased and even gave life to the dead by the power God GAVE him. The ironic thing is that as a Muslim I have NO problem with admitting any of the above. Infact it is perfectly inline with Islam __________________

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hks786 Major General Drives: * Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: UK Posts: 5,313 iTrader: (0)	Good questions. I'll explain the different abbreviations you might see. We Muslims never say a Prophets name just as it is... (PBUH) - This stands for "Peace be upon him". (SAW) - This is arabic for "Sallalahu Aleyhi Wasallam" which means "May the Peace and Blessings of Allah (God) be upon him" (AS) - This is arabic for "Alayhi Salaam" which means "upon him be peace". The 1st and 3rd are given to Prophets of Allah but the 2nd one is recited after the Holy Prophet (SAW)'s name. __________________

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its ray den Second Lieutenant Drives: 2004 Mazda6s Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: NY Posts: 207 iTrader: (0)	oh no...

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E82tt6 Colonel Drives: '08 Black Saphire Z4 MC Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: New Jersey Posts: 2,627 iTrader: (0)	The same as any other of the Abrahamic Religions. The majority of those who practice have a positive influence, unifying people, providing support, and helping their community. There is also a fairly large group of extremists, or orthodox practicers, that have a negative influence, by contesting that their form of worship is the only correct one, and generally preaching theocracy, bigotry, and other socially destructive practices. The smallest groupe would be the violent extremists. The religiously motivated terrorists that all all Abrahamic faiths seem to produce along the fringes. Very difficult to make a generalized statement about any religion. Too many different kinds of people practice.

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Negotiator Lieutenant Drives: 07 GTI Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Fairfax, VA Posts: 539 iTrader: (0)	I'm curious why you chose a Christian as opposed to any other religion. Do you feel that atheists are targetting Christians specifically? Religious people in general are like any other group of people with a common belief, harmless until they open their mouth.

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UncleWede Long Time Admirer, First Time Owner Drives: E90 325i Arctic Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Oxnard, CA Posts: 2,258 iTrader: (0)	It's in the name: Beleif that Christ Jesus came to Earth as the only begotten son of God, lived a sinless life, was crucified, died, buried, and rose from the dead after three days to open the gates to heaven for all the sinners who beleive in him. The key is BELEIF. Not acts of kindness, not how many alms were given to the poor, not haw many children you molest.

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UncleWede Long Time Admirer, First Time Owner Drives: E90 325i Arctic Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Oxnard, CA Posts: 2,258 iTrader: (0)	I guess I misspoke, but I often interchange belief and faith.