M3 lease rates (money factor and residuals) came out today - Page 4

Epacy · 02-27-2008, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by FifthStreetz

are you planning for a 60 month finance?

I am considering 60 months but leaning towards 54...

It's 4.99 for 54 months as well.

Yeah, probably 60 months. My payment will be nothing like what is being discussed in here.

Jimmyz · 02-27-2008, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Epacy

It's 4.99 for 54 months as well.

Yeah, probably 60 months. My payment will be nothing like what is being discussed in here.

Yes it will, won't it? Probably in the low 1300s a month if I am not mistaken.

Epacy · 02-27-2008, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimmyz

Yes it will, won't it? Probably in the low 1300s a month if I am not mistaken.

Ah, no. It won't be cause I said it won't be. I am not financing even close to the whole thing.

Jimmyz · 02-27-2008, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Epacy

Ah, no. It won't be cause I said it won't be. I am not financing even close to the whole thing.

Oh, ok... then you are right. Didn't catch that, my bad.

Jimmyz · 02-27-2008, 11:56 AM

So with the options I want, and basically all cars being equally equipped (using E90 M3 lease numbers on the C63)

S5: 1030 a month
E90 M3: 1090 a month
E92 M3: 1160 a month
C63 AMG: 1000 a month

The C63 is looking pretty tantalizing, I must say.

GregW / Oregon · 02-27-2008, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimmyz

So with the options I want, and basically all cars being equally equipped (using E90 M3 lease numbers on the C63)

S5: 1030 a month
E90 M3: 1090 a month
E92 M3: 1160 a month
C63 AMG: 1000 a month

The C63 is looking pretty tantalizing, I must say.

The money you'd save you'd spend in gas!

cosmos515 · 02-27-2008, 12:01 PM

The C63 will have the worst #'s. MB MF is stupid like 10% and their residuals will be like 45%.

I have seen it happen before. You will NO WAY get a c36 for $1000

Out out Audi, BMW and MB. BMW will have the best residuals and MF, Audi may have a lower MF, but also MUCH lower residuals and MB will have bad MF and Residuals.

Sorry, its just how it is, dont shoot the messenger.

addy85 · 02-27-2008, 12:12 PM

how come the residual values is lower for the m3 then the 335?

marcos · 02-27-2008, 12:18 PM

Does anyone have solid information that the MF will drop in Mar/April?

!Xoible · 02-27-2008, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by cosmos515

I had to remove it.

bro, sorry i wasnt hating on you, the messenger, was hating on the message though

par4bmw · 02-27-2008, 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimmyz

So with the options I want, and basically all cars being equally equipped (using E90 M3 lease numbers on the C63)

S5: 1030 a month
E90 M3: 1090 a month
E92 M3: 1160 a month
C63 AMG: 1000 a month

The C63 is looking pretty tantalizing, I must say.

How did you come to those C63 numbers?

par4bmw · 02-27-2008, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by addy85

how come the residual values is lower for the m3 then the 335?

New models can make more money for the finance group than old ones.

!Xoible · 02-27-2008, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by gblansten

Residuals 15K 53%
12K 55%
10K 56%

From what was posted earlier this is my understanding.

the 10k's residual seems awfully low. i'd expect at lease 57-58%

what are numbers on 24 month lease? anyone know? Cosmos?

!Xoible · 02-27-2008, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by addy85

how come the residual values is lower for the m3 then the 335?

exactly my point! residual should be at least as much as 335. you can get money factor up to 0.00315, i dont care, but why's residual lower??

bullmrkt · 02-27-2008, 12:39 PM

Patience is definitely a virtue here... Interesting to see those residuals, 128's are WAY higher...hm

cosmos515 · 02-27-2008, 12:41 PM

24 months 10k a year came out in the $1400's

!Xoible · 02-27-2008, 12:43 PM

yah it came to 1400's assuming residual is 65%

dude, how do you get this info? u work at a dealer or something?

cosmos515 · 02-27-2008, 12:53 PM

I just asked my guy and he sent me the raw #'s. I plugged them in on my lease excel sheet.

I buy a new BMW almost every 9 months. Since October its been a little more. I am on my 3rd since October. Next is M5 and than May its M3. My point is, I have been doing this for awhile and have a "feel" for how BMW does business. I did not expect the residuals to be as low. I had them 3pts above what they actualy came out at.

I think things will change a bit for the 2009 MY. Economics as well as I am still expecting a slight facelift for 2009. These things will effect the residuals and MF, hence the monthly rate. The 2009 should be better priced for a lease.

bullmrkt · 02-27-2008, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by cosmos515

I just asked my guy and he sent me the raw #'s. I plugged them in on my lease excel sheet.

I buy a new BMW almost every 9 months. Since October its been a little more. I am on my 3rd since October. Next is M5 and than May its M3. My point is, I have been doing this for awhile and have a "feel" for how BMW does business. I did not expect the residuals to be as low. I had them 3pts above what they actualy came out at.

I think things will change a bit for the 2009 MY. Economics as well as I am still expecting a slight facelift for 2009. These things will effect the residuals and MF, hence the monthly rate. The 2009 should be better priced for a lease.

Every 9 months?! Holy... Guess you don't do much modding!

!Xoible · 02-27-2008, 12:59 PM

so do u keep these cars or let go of them?

i know it'll drop.

i expected residual to be between 58-60 like the 335's, altho M3 retains more value than 335

do u mind sharing that spreadsheet? just interested in the formulas. mine seems between 8-15 bucks off for some reason

!Xoible · 02-27-2008, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by bullmrkt

Every 9 months?! Holy... Guess you don't do much modding!

a new car ever few months is the ballest mod you can get

cosmos515 · 02-27-2008, 01:25 PM

Sometimes I mod, other times no.

02-27-2008, 12:01 PM	#73
cosmos515 Second Lieutenant Drives: I find what I keeps Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: So Cal Posts: 215 iTrader: (0)	The C63 will have the worst #'s. MB MF is stupid like 10% and their residuals will be like 45%. I have seen it happen before. You will NO WAY get a c36 for $1000 Out out Audi, BMW and MB. BMW will have the best residuals and MF, Audi may have a lower MF, but also MUCH lower residuals and MB will have bad MF and Residuals. Sorry, its just how it is, dont shoot the messenger. __________________ "Motion does not equal progress" "I love the smell of cosmoline in the morning"

02-27-2008, 12:12 PM	#74
addy85 Got beef? Drives: E90 335i Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Arlington Texas Posts: 3,649 iTrader: (4) Garage List 2007 335i [0.00]	how come the residual values is lower for the m3 then the 335? __________________ Special Thanks to AU335

02-27-2008, 12:18 PM	#75
marcos Private First Class Drives: jerez m3 coupe Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: PA Posts: 146 iTrader: (0)	Does anyone have solid information that the MF will drop in Mar/April? __________________ e92 M3 Jerez Black, Fox Red Interior, Heated Seats, Satellite Radio, 18's Last edited by marcos; 02-27-2008 at 12:19 PM. Reason: new info

02-27-2008, 12:39 PM	#81
bullmrkt Lieutenant Drives: 4 wheels Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: usually my desk Posts: 448 iTrader: (0)	Patience is definitely a virtue here... Interesting to see those residuals, 128's are WAY higher...hm __________________ My cat has learned to type. I can therefore take no responsibility for anything said hitherto.

02-27-2008, 12:41 PM	#82
cosmos515 Second Lieutenant Drives: I find what I keeps Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: So Cal Posts: 215 iTrader: (0)	24 months 10k a year came out in the $1400's __________________ "Motion does not equal progress" "I love the smell of cosmoline in the morning"

02-27-2008, 11:56 AM	#71
Jimmyz Second Lieutenant Drives: E92 M3 or Audi S5 (soon!) Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: NY Posts: 258 iTrader: (0)	So with the options I want, and basically all cars being equally equipped (using E90 M3 lease numbers on the C63) S5: 1030 a month E90 M3: 1090 a month E92 M3: 1160 a month C63 AMG: 1000 a month The C63 is looking pretty tantalizing, I must say.

02-27-2008, 12:43 PM	#83
!Xoible Banned Drives: .... Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: . Posts: 46,045 iTrader: (4) Garage List 2008 M3 [3.50] 2007 335i [4.50] 2008 528i [4.00] 2006 Infiniti - G35 ... [4.00]	yah it came to 1400's assuming residual is 65% dude, how do you get this info? u work at a dealer or something?

02-27-2008, 12:53 PM	#84
cosmos515 Second Lieutenant Drives: I find what I keeps Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: So Cal Posts: 215 iTrader: (0)	I just asked my guy and he sent me the raw #'s. I plugged them in on my lease excel sheet. I buy a new BMW almost every 9 months. Since October its been a little more. I am on my 3rd since October. Next is M5 and than May its M3. My point is, I have been doing this for awhile and have a "feel" for how BMW does business. I did not expect the residuals to be as low. I had them 3pts above what they actualy came out at. I think things will change a bit for the 2009 MY. Economics as well as I am still expecting a slight facelift for 2009. These things will effect the residuals and MF, hence the monthly rate. The 2009 should be better priced for a lease. __________________ "Motion does not equal progress" "I love the smell of cosmoline in the morning"

02-27-2008, 12:59 PM	#86
!Xoible Banned Drives: .... Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: . Posts: 46,045 iTrader: (4) Garage List 2008 M3 [3.50] 2007 335i [4.50] 2008 528i [4.00] 2006 Infiniti - G35 ... [4.00]	so do u keep these cars or let go of them? i know it'll drop. i expected residual to be between 58-60 like the 335's, altho M3 retains more value than 335 do u mind sharing that spreadsheet? just interested in the formulas. mine seems between 8-15 bucks off for some reason

02-27-2008, 01:25 PM	#88
cosmos515 Second Lieutenant Drives: I find what I keeps Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: So Cal Posts: 215 iTrader: (0)	Sometimes I mod, other times no. __________________ "Motion does not equal progress" "I love the smell of cosmoline in the morning"

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