Another M3 or GTR thread

[bmwzimmer]

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=124681

Well I figured the GTR was out of the question since I didn't want to pay 20K over invoice but with this new article, it looks like Nissan is taking safeguards to ensure that it doesn't get marked up too much. Since the car already comes nearly fully loaded, it turns out to be closer in price to the M3 than we all thought out the door. This makes it a much more difficult choice.

Originally I figured 70K M3 or 90K GTR with all the markups
Now it looks like a 70K M3 or 73K GTR (assuming 2K markup)

Does this give anybody 2nd thoughts about the M3?

[southlight]

Another wrong forum post. This topic should be moved to this section:
http://www.m3post.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=171


Best regards, south

[Epacy]

[gbb357]

2k mark up! Yeah right i wish, good luck with that. I'd be surprise if dealers will only mark it up by $10k. BTW, wrong forum.

[bmwzimmer]

Sorry, please move

gbb357, you missed the whole point of the article.

[mkoesel]

Interesting article actually. I wonder how much Nissan will "let them get away with" and what they plan to do to discourage high mark ups. My guess is 10k over will still happen. I wonder if any of the 691 dealers are actually planning to sell at MSRP? Either way, the waitlist for the car is probably pretty long as things are right now.

[Patricius]

The $10-25k mark-up will not matter because if you aren't way high on the list, you won't even be seeing the opportunity to get one of these. What are they quoting, 1000-1500 imported the entire first model year? I bet these are sold on e-Bay "used" for $30-50k over MSRP.

Try to get an Audi R8 on Autotrader for less than $30-50k over sticker.

[devo]

Originally Posted by mkoesel

Interesting article actually. I wonder how much Nissan will "let them get away with" and what they plan to do to discourage high mark ups. My guess is 10k over will still happen. I wonder if any of the 691 dealers are actually planning to sell at MSRP? Either way, the waitlist for the car is probably pretty long as things are right now.

My dealer is selling me the GT-R at MSRP. I am second on their list. If I don't have one this year, I'm confident that I'll have it in 2009.

[inmotion]

Originally Posted by devo

My dealer is selling me the GT-R at MSRP. I am second on their list. If I don't have one this year, I'm confident that I'll have it in 2009.

congrats on that - do post a lengthy review when you get it!

[Los Angeles]

Nissan doesn't mark up their cars $10-20k over. The dealerships won't get away with it.

Some will be asking that much, but the cars that are actually sold will not be sold way over MSRP. At most, $5k over if they're lucky.

Now a company like Porsche, BMW or MercBenz can easily get away with $10-20k over MSRP because they're premium luxury brands.

[devo]

Originally Posted by Los Angeles

Nissan doesn't mark up their cars $10-20k over. The dealerships won't get away with it.

Some will be asking that much, but the cars that are actually sold will not be sold way over MSRP. At most, $5k over if they're lucky.

Now a company like Porsche, BMW or MercBenz can easily get away with $10-20k over MSRP because they're premium luxury brands.

Tell that to the Nissan dealers that are charging $25-$40K over MSRP. One dealer is demanding $60K over. Granted many will not get these prices, but many will. It has already begun. With 1500 GT-Rs per year, demand will be very high.

[inmotion]

Originally Posted by Los Angeles

Nissan doesn't mark up their cars $10-20k over. The dealerships won't get away with it.

Some will be asking that much, but the cars that are actually sold will not be sold way over MSRP. At most, $5k over if they're lucky.

Now a company like Porsche, BMW or MercBenz can easily get away with $10-20k over MSRP because they're premium luxury brands.

Actually many dealerships do. Just give them a call or drop by one that is authorized to sell it and you will get anywhere from $15k-$25k. Apparently, the authorized dealers will have to upgrade their service department, which means more money invested just to sell the car. I'm sure it will sell for over as many of my Pcar friends are seriously considering this car.

[Los Angeles]

Originally Posted by inmotion

Actually many dealerships do. Just give them a call or drop by one that is authorized to sell it and you will get anywhere from $15k-$25k. Apparently, the authorized dealers will have to upgrade their service department, which means more money invested just to sell the car. I'm sure it will sell for over as many of my Pcar friends are seriously considering this car.

Nah, a good friend of mine is a mechanic at a Nissan dealer. They're getting plenty GT-Rs.

There won't be a $15-25k mark-up. This came from the owner's mouth.

[Keto]

This thread demands pics of GT-R's with/without the "Dealer Markup" sticker next to the official price sticker. If only..

[sdiver68]

Nagtroc.com/forums has several people in with MSRP orders.

My long time GT-R fan and forum participant take:

GT-R's will be available at MSRP if you are willing to wait up to a year, and wise-well do so anyway to avoid the 1st teething issues.

[devo]

Originally Posted by sdiver68

Nagtroc.com/forums has several people in with MSRP orders.

My long time GT-R fan and forum participant take:

GT-R's will be available at MSRP if you are willing to wait up to a year, and wise-well do so anyway to avoid the 1st teething issues.

I frequently check out that forum as well. There are several buying at MSRP, but several isn't 1500, yet. I hope that these cars are sold at MSRP.

It simply comes to to supply and demand. If the following is very high and Nissan keeps our yearly allocations to 1500, then there very well may be mark ups. With as few as 1500 cars per year dealers and speculators can essentially control the market. No one knows if this will happen or not.

Presently there are about 700 +/- of the 1069 dealers participating in the program. There was/is a $25,000 program fee plus training and equipment (a special alignment rack is required too.) so the fees add up quickly. I do think that numerous dealers will still try to get big mark ups. Of course, time typically heals everything.

[Blip Bavarian]

Originally Posted by Los Angeles

Nissan doesn't mark up their cars $10-20k over. The dealerships won't get away with it.

Some will be asking that much, but the cars that are actually sold will not be sold way over MSRP. At most, $5k over if they're lucky.

Now a company like Porsche, BMW or MercBenz can easily get away with $10-20k over MSRP because they're premium luxury brands.

....supply and demand. That is all there is to it. Sure Nissan doesn't usally mark there cars up $10-20k. They cant really do that with a maxima. This is a highly anticipated enthusiast car that supposedly is better on a track than a 911 turbo. and 1500 units a year is nothing. Business always comes down to supply and demand.

[devo]

I just received a call from my Nissan dealer today. I gave them my specs (pre-order form) in the hopes of getting my color choices and options. Nissan then takes the data and makes an attempt to get the dealer that car. Right now, it is unknown if buyers will get what they want. I sure hope so.

Premium Pk.
Gun Metal Met.
Black leather
Floormats

That's considered fully loaded.

[mkoesel]

Originally Posted by devo

Nissan then takes the data and makes an attempt to get the dealer that car. Right now, it is unknown if buyers will get what they want. I sure hope so.

Have the paint-booth robots taken over control of their factories or something?

[gmund1948]

I really have to see what happens

[devo]

I just received official notice today that I am getting my specced GT-R this summer. I will be one of two at my dealer to get one this year. I can't wait to track this baby.

[Epacy]

Originally Posted by devo

I just received official notice today that I am getting my specced GT-R this summer. I will be one of two at my dealer to get one this year. I can't wait to track this baby.

Your garage is really moving up!