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      02-05-2008, 12:18 PM   #1
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Super Tuesday....

Get out and VOTE, and vote FOR:

Hillary Clinton or John McCain for President!

(The two candidates with by FAR the most experience).
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      02-05-2008, 12:21 PM   #2
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WOAH WOAH!!! please refrain from thinking you have the right to influence our votes or tell us what to do.
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      02-05-2008, 12:29 PM   #3
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Go Clinton or McCain!!

Please refrain from telling me what you think I have the right to say or do.
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good point

but for real... fuck these 2 man... they're both a national disaster if they win... i dont care if the devil is elected, just not these 2
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good point

but for real... fuck these 2 man... they're both a national disaster if they win... i dont care if the devil is elected, just not these 2
Well, they are the ONLY two with enough experience to IMHO qualify.
There are too many reason NOT to vote for the others.

I grew up in AZ, and John McCain has done A LOT of good for AZ.
And Hillary, well, let's just be honest, she's BEEN in the White House for 8 GREAT years, behind one of the best Presidents in our history.

Wouldn't hurt to have her there again, this time with one of the greatest Presidents in our history along side her this time!!

And foreign leaders love and respect the Clintons. They would have other countries loving us again.

A BIG Business rich business man, and a guy who has NEVER run anything and only 2-3 years experience in Federal politics is NOT qualified to run our country.

My first choice:
Clinton

My 2nd choice:
McCain

Americans made the idiotic choice to put GW in the White House not once, but unbelievably put him back in the 2nd time.
We see what that did for us.
Hopefully they won't make another big mistake by electing someone without NEARLY the needed experience to run our country, especially in a time of war and recession!! A Civil Rights attorney doesn't qualify a man to run OUR country. Either does 2-3 years in Federal politics and only a few years in state politics before that.
Romney at least has experience running large businesses AND has run a government too.
I just hate the fact he will, like most Republicans, be on the side of big business and has a lobbyist as a senior advisor.
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McCain is a senior citizen looking for sympathy.

He'll croak before November.

No Sr. Citizens for Pres. No way no how.

Someone should check him into an elderly care facility before its too late.
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How does Hillary have more experience, she has 7 years of elected experience vs Obama who has 11. Hillary takes money from Lobbyists as well. She would be the 4th Bush or Clinton in the office making it 20 years of their rule. She is pretty much the devil in my mind. I really don't want to vote Republican but I would be forced to if she was the Democratic nominee, heck I would vote for Bush for a third term before Clinton.

Obama 08!!
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i hope john edwards makes it at least VP... obama + edwards is like super good... probably cant happen

i'll be okay with hilary and obama or her husband as VP
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i hope john edwards makes it at least VP... obama + edwards is like super good... probably cant happen

i'll be okay with hilary and obama or her husband as VP
Her husband would be the puppet master
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As long as we have separation of the church and state, we'll be OK. Any GOP candidate will appoint neo con justices to supreme court, and we shall be screwed.
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Get out and VOTE, and vote FOR:

Hillary Clinton or John McCain for President!

(The two candidates with by FAR the most experience).
Wasn't Clinton a thief and sold our military secrets to the Chinese??
Isn't he a major part of the reason for our debt as well?? Something a long the lines of allowing people to take out of their IRA's for a one time tax to boost that years tax revenue, instead of accumulating their taxes over time??
I may be mis-informed, who knows.. Either way I still don't like the Clinton's.

If you want the best of both worlds.. Ron Paul for president.
The only one who I think isn't lying out their ass or taking bribes.

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Her husband would be the puppet master
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How does Hillary have more experience, she has 7 years of elected experience vs Obama who has 11. Hillary takes money from Lobbyists as well. She would be the 4th Bush or Clinton in the office making it 20 years of their rule. She is pretty much the devil in my mind. I really don't want to vote Republican but I would be forced to if she was the Democratic nominee, heck I would vote for Bush for a third term before Clinton.

Obama 08!!
Umm, Osama has only 2 or so years in federal politics.
Not even close to what Hillary has.
She was first lady of the State of Arkansas.
First Lady of the United States
7 years as Senator of New York.

She has FAR more than Obama.

Has Obama even over seen a city government or sat in on a city budget meeting?
Has he run or headed anything?
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Her husband would be the puppet master
OK, you are officially clueless, sorry.
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obama is kicking ass he just won GA
Umm yeah, of course, he'll win all the states that are heavy African American.

I'd like to know how many black men voted for anybody other than Obama.
Black women are torn, but no doubt if Hillary was a man, I'd bet 95% of African American's would vote for Obama, even if they didn't know a thing about him.

What's funny is Bill Clinton is more "black" than Obama.
Obama is 1/2 white, 1/2 black, but his black father was a loser, and dead beat. Obama was raised by his white mother, who he says taught him everything and is the reason he is the person he is today. Heck, Obama's more Indonesia than he is black. His step-father is Indonesian and Obama spent several years living in Indonesia (one of the largest population of Muslim people in the world in Indonesia).

Sadly, like our stupid electoral college, even in the primaries the number of votes by the American people don't fully count.
It should be popular vote there too that decides the outcome.
Whomever gets the most votes nationally in the primaries gets the nomination...period.
It's a absolute joke that a state is awarded to someone (like North Dakota or Kansas) when they had like 25,000 Democratic votes in the whole state.

And in Iowa, there were like a dismal 2000 Democrats that voted yet they have 45 Democratic delegates, most of which goes to Obama because he won by like 200 votes.
But in Arizona, there will be close to 500,000 Democrats that voted but they have 6 Democratic delegates. Where Hillary won, but she has to split the measly 6 delegates (3 each) with Obama who lost.

So the 1/2 million voters in AZ has MUCH less say than the 2000 in Iowa. Our system of voting is F--ked UP big time!

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Wasn't Clinton a thief and sold our military secrets to the Chinese??
Isn't he a major part of the reason for our debt as well?? Something a long the lines of allowing people to take out of their IRA's for a one time tax to boost that years tax revenue, instead of accumulating their taxes over time??
I may be mis-informed, who knows.. Either way I still don't like the Clinton's.

If you want the best of both worlds.. Ron Paul for president.
The only one who I think isn't lying out their ass or taking bribes.


+1

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Yes, you are uninformed.
Clinton eliminated the entire debt in our country and left with a surplus.

Are you supporting Obama and did you vote for George Bush too? It wouldn't surprise me.
How do the inexperienced and idiots (with Bush it's one in the same) keep getting votes and elected? From clueless and idiot American's that's how.

Hillary - Edwards ticket that would be the realy dream team.
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Umm, Osama has only 2 or so years in federal politics.
Not even close to what Hillary has.
She was first lady of the State of Arkansas.
First Lady of the United States
7 years as Senator of New York.

She has FAR more than Obama.

Has Obama even over seen a city government or sat in on a city budget meeting?
Has he run or headed anything?
I was just talking elected experience, she has only been in the senate from NY a state she wasn't even from... Obama even though he hasn't been in the US Senate as long as her, he does have experience in his home state which is good enough for me.

But personally I don't care how much experience she has, I want someone who isn't influenced by the corrupt government that is in washington now. She has taken close to a million dollars for her campaign from lobbyists. Obama has taken ZERO from them. I want someone who isn't influenced by others and brings new fresh ideas not the same old junk we have had shoved at us the past 20 years. If you want the same old stuff and want nothing new for the US then vote for Clinton that's your right.
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Yes, you are uninformed.
Clinton eliminated the entire debt in our country and left with a surplus.

Are you supporting Obama and did you vote for George Bush too? It wouldn't surprise me.
How do the inexperienced and idiots (with Bush it's one in the same) keep getting votes and elected? From clueless and idiot American's that's how.

Hillary - Edwards ticket that would be the realy dream team.
What are you talking about Clinton eliminating the debt, That's BILL Clinton not HILLARY Clinton, she had nothing to do with it. I think people are electing Hillary just to get Bill back.
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What are you talking about Clinton eliminating the debt, That's BILL Clinton not HILLARY Clinton, she had nothing to do with it. I think people are electing Hillary just to get Bill back.
I agree, and that's why I'd love to see Hillary in office.
There is no doubt that Bill would pretty much "run" the show behind the scenes. And I'm sure everyone in Washington would secretly be going to him for a lot of stuff and advice too.
Bill was a superstar in foreign countries too. And we NEED the respect of foreign countries again, and he would bring that.

The fact Hillary would have Bill to lean on (heavily I'm sure) is a MAJOR bonus.
Then having the down to earth values of John Edwards as VP would be a big bonus too.

Every politician succumbs to the pressure of lobbyists.
You either do it or get buried by the power of big business.
It's just a matter of how well you stand up to them or how often you get on your knees to please them.

Obama hasn't even sat in on a city budget planning meeting, much less any other facet of running even a CITY much less a state or this country.
He wouldn't have a clue as to where to start and would need advice and help in EVERY aspect of running a country.
We NEED more experience than that to run this country in this day and age.

I'm glad Clinton got the big states last night.
Had the primaries been as they SHOULD be with winner take all, and the person with the most votes wins, none of this splitting delegates BS and certain states get more delegates than others, some (like Flordia) get none.
It's a manipulating BS way of nominating someone, and choosing our President as well.
Had the PEOPLE's voice REALLY mattered, Al Gore would of been our President for the last 8 years.
I don't know what's so difficult with making it the choice of the PEOPLE to choose the winner.
In every other aspect of voting, the majority rules and wins.

Oh well, our little voices mean so very little anyway and get less and less, and big business and the rich pay for their voices and get stronger and stronger.
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What are you talking about Clinton eliminating the debt, That's BILL Clinton not HILLARY Clinton, she had nothing to do with it. I think people are electing Hillary just to get Bill back.
if he becomes her VP im voting for her for sure... i'd like him back
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if he becomes her VP im voting for her for sure... i'd like him back

Haha Bill Clinton as VP, is that possible?
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