BMW M3 Forum (E90 E92)

BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read


Go Back   M3Post - BMW M3 Forum > BIMMERPOST Universal Forums > Off-Topic Discussions Board > Health, Fitness, Martial Arts, and Nutrition
 
Steve Thomas BMW
Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      01-05-2008, 09:51 AM   #45
!Xoible
Banned
United_States
555
Rep
46,037
Posts

 
Drives: ....
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: .

iTrader: (4)

Garage List
2008 M3  [3.50]
2007 335i  [4.50]
2008 528i  [4.00]
2006 Infiniti - G35 ...  [4.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Taittinger View Post
I lift 3-4 times a week and train in TKD 1-2 a week. Have had to cut back on the heavy lifting since getting tendinitis in the elbow back in Sept/Oct. Really frustrating. And no disrespect intended, benching ones body weight is usually considered a minimum.
+1, it's minimum to bench ur weight... if u dont then there's something wrong

the problem is due to work i can never go continuously to gym, i got for 2 weeks straight, then stop for a whole month.

same with my martial arts class. i havent been going regular for over ayear now, very frustrating that i cannot.

TKD keeps u in shape IMO, i was cut as hell when i did it back in the day. Mantis makes u lazy and fat
Appreciate 0
      01-05-2008, 09:56 AM   #46
L~R~G nor cal
Perfection Is In The Details
United_States
11
Rep
1,044
Posts

 
Drives: 06 E90
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Sacramento, CA

iTrader: (1)

Garage List
2006 325i  [0.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Taittinger View Post
Well there is strength and there is power. Max is still used to gauge power for powerlifting.
The goal here is what University of Texas calls "EP" explosive power. When you say there is strenght and there is power, I think this is not a correct choice of words. Its more like strenght and speed. You want to reach the goal of having power(strenght) with speed or EP.

Alot of people just train for strenght and become slow. Others train for speed and become weak. You want to have the perfect balance.

EP is huge for all sports. Think about the UFC, where would you be with only power, or only speed.

The best way to reach EP is slow down, fast up. Simple, but walk in the gym and you see guys just bouncing weights off their chests.
Appreciate 0
      01-05-2008, 10:11 AM   #47
Taittinger
Major
Taittinger's Avatar
United_States
13
Rep
1,019
Posts

 
Drives: Monaco Blue E92
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: NJ

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2007 335i Cpe  [0.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by L~R~G nor cal View Post
The goal here is what University of Texas calls "EP" explosive power. When you say there is strenght and there is power, I think this is not a correct choice of words. Its more like strenght and speed. You want to reach the goal of having power(strenght) with speed or EP.

Alot of people just train for strenght and become slow. Others train for speed and become weak. You want to have the perfect balance.

EP is huge for all sports. Think about the UFC, where would you be with only power, or only speed.

The best way to reach EP is slow down, fast up. Simple, but walk in the gym and you see guys just bouncing weights off their chests.
Okay, how about horsepower and torque?
__________________


'07 Monaco Blue 335i ordered 9/4 built 9/21 shipped 9/28 arrived 10/12 at dealership 10/18 vroom 10/19 christened 11/3...
Appreciate 0
      01-05-2008, 10:15 AM   #48
L~R~G nor cal
Perfection Is In The Details
United_States
11
Rep
1,044
Posts

 
Drives: 06 E90
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Sacramento, CA

iTrader: (1)

Garage List
2006 325i  [0.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Taittinger View Post
Okay, how about horsepower and torque?

HP=speed Torque=power... LOL ITS ALL ABOUT THE PERFECT COMBO!!
Appreciate 0
      01-05-2008, 10:35 AM   #49
ArmyBimmerDude
Major General
ArmyBimmerDude's Avatar
United_States
67
Rep
5,504
Posts

 
Drives: Lola
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Georgia

iTrader: (3)

Garage List
Send a message via AIM to ArmyBimmerDude Send a message via Yahoo to ArmyBimmerDude
Quote:
Originally Posted by BMWE90 View Post
If you can bench your own weight then you're pretty damn strong.
Yeah, I think thats what I heard when I was in H.S.

"If you can't bench your weight once, you're weak" which in my opinion is true. Any guy should be able to do it one time.

Oh and I just did one rep of 270lbs. Not going any higher cause I havent exercised in 2 months. lol

Anyway, the core exercise more important to me are squats. You'd be amazed at the gains you make if you suck it up and do them.
__________________
2007 E92 Montego Blue 335i
Appreciate 0
      01-05-2008, 11:08 AM   #50
jaiman
Captain
9
Rep
657
Posts

 
Drives: very fast
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Toronto

iTrader: (0)

www.crossfit.com

I try to do the work out of the day, everyday its posted.
Appreciate 0
      01-05-2008, 02:53 PM   #51
stooken
Brigadier General
United_States
63
Rep
4,250
Posts

 
Drives: E70 X5
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: NOR*CAL

iTrader: (2)

about 5 days a week.
__________________
2010 E92 BSM 335i | M-Sport | ST Coils | Linea Corse Lemans | Cobb AP | BMS DCI | Cyba Tips
Appreciate 0
      01-05-2008, 02:58 PM   #52
TurboFan
Ski bum
TurboFan's Avatar
94
Rep
6,207
Posts

 
Drives: sideways
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Knee deep in the pow

iTrader: (8)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Taittinger View Post
Well there is strength and there is power. Max is still used to gauge power for powerlifting.
true, as I said it is still used. But outside of max lift competitions, and the bench press is not a world cup or olympic powerlifting event, the more widely used standard is how many reps at a given weight. An intereting question is "how much can you deadlift" or "how much can you clean and jerk" (no sex comments!). I doubt more than a couple people here can even do a hang clean or power clean, let alone know what one is. I'm sure we'll get some interesting guesses soon!

Even in the strongest man competitions, those knowledgeable of the "sport" are looking more at how many reps at a given weight.
__________________

1999 e46 328i Ti Silver / Black[retired]
2007 e90 335xi Jet Black / Black[retired]
2011 e70 X5 35d Vermillion Red / Cinnamon
2011 e92 M3 LeMans / Fox Red extended
Appreciate 0
      01-05-2008, 03:02 PM   #53
TurboFan
Ski bum
TurboFan's Avatar
94
Rep
6,207
Posts

 
Drives: sideways
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Knee deep in the pow

iTrader: (8)

Quote:
Originally Posted by ArmyBimmerDude View Post
Yeah, I think thats what I heard when I was in H.S.

"If you can't bench your weight once, you're weak" which in my opinion is true. Any guy should be able to do it one time.

Oh and I just did one rep of 270lbs. Not going any higher cause I havent exercised in 2 months. lol

Anyway, the core exercise more important to me are squats. You'd be amazed at the gains you make if you suck it up and do them.
Quoted for truth!

But ya gotta be smart in how you do them. I see so many guys, younger and older, that have no idea what they are doing. My knees ache just watching them.

I've just started back into them after taking years off for knee injuries. Too many years of doing parallel/catcher-squats with 3x my body weight. Now at 32 the cartilage in my knees is crap and my knees hurt everytime the weather changes. I've resorted to hack squats with my feet together on a power rack. Not a "real" squat in my book, but w/o 2 knee reconstructions / replacements, it's the closest I'm gonna be able to get.
__________________

1999 e46 328i Ti Silver / Black[retired]
2007 e90 335xi Jet Black / Black[retired]
2011 e70 X5 35d Vermillion Red / Cinnamon
2011 e92 M3 LeMans / Fox Red extended
Appreciate 0
      01-05-2008, 03:58 PM   #54
Taittinger
Major
Taittinger's Avatar
United_States
13
Rep
1,019
Posts

 
Drives: Monaco Blue E92
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: NJ

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2007 335i Cpe  [0.00]
It definitely gets tougher. I stopped squatting for about ten years for fear of a problematic hamstring and knees. Just started again, staying light, about 225 max now. I recently had to stop deadlifting due to a bum elbow.
__________________


'07 Monaco Blue 335i ordered 9/4 built 9/21 shipped 9/28 arrived 10/12 at dealership 10/18 vroom 10/19 christened 11/3...
Appreciate 0
      01-05-2008, 04:04 PM   #55
Taittinger
Major
Taittinger's Avatar
United_States
13
Rep
1,019
Posts

 
Drives: Monaco Blue E92
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: NJ

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2007 335i Cpe  [0.00]
Since this is a workout thread and since I have never found a good answer, has anyone found a good way to lift heavy while retaining flexibility? I know there is loss as one ages. I try stretching more but personally, too much stretching keeps me from lifting max weight and actually puts me at risk for pulled muscles when I do lift. I am finding it harder to do routine kicks such as the roundhouse or side kick though as a result.
__________________


'07 Monaco Blue 335i ordered 9/4 built 9/21 shipped 9/28 arrived 10/12 at dealership 10/18 vroom 10/19 christened 11/3...
Appreciate 0
      01-05-2008, 04:05 PM   #56
!Xoible
Banned
United_States
555
Rep
46,037
Posts

 
Drives: ....
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: .

iTrader: (4)

Garage List
2008 M3  [3.50]
2007 335i  [4.50]
2008 528i  [4.00]
2006 Infiniti - G35 ...  [4.00]
damn this thread, made me go to gym... just got back...

altho i havent worked out in a month i was able to bench 195
Appreciate 0
      01-05-2008, 04:08 PM   #57
Taittinger
Major
Taittinger's Avatar
United_States
13
Rep
1,019
Posts

 
Drives: Monaco Blue E92
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: NJ

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2007 335i Cpe  [0.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by mantis View Post
damn this thread, made me go to gym... just got back...

altho i havent worked out in a month i was able to bench 195
Headed there now and coincidentally it is chest day.
__________________


'07 Monaco Blue 335i ordered 9/4 built 9/21 shipped 9/28 arrived 10/12 at dealership 10/18 vroom 10/19 christened 11/3...
Appreciate 0
      01-05-2008, 04:23 PM   #58
ducati955
Lieutenant Colonel
ducati955's Avatar
28
Rep
1,717
Posts

 
Drives: lifted tacoma on 38's & ducati
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: long island ny

iTrader: (2)

Garage List
2007 BMW 335i  [5.00]
i been lifting since i was 16, now 29, did photoshoots, etc, persoanl training, diets, bla bla, i love it, all natural!
__________________
car totaled out !!AW335i, oem aero lip, m3 csl rims, oem m3 sides, vorst csl carbon trunk, tinted, lowered on H&R sport, AR DP's, Bastauck dual exhaust, BMS intake, etc

NEW RIDE white GTR!
Appreciate 0
      01-05-2008, 04:58 PM   #59
TurboFan
Ski bum
TurboFan's Avatar
94
Rep
6,207
Posts

 
Drives: sideways
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Knee deep in the pow

iTrader: (8)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Taittinger View Post
Since this is a workout thread and since I have never found a good answer, has anyone found a good way to lift heavy while retaining flexibility? I know there is loss as one ages. I try stretching more but personally, too much stretching keeps me from lifting max weight and actually puts me at risk for pulled muscles when I do lift. I am finding it harder to do routine kicks such as the roundhouse or side kick though as a result.
Maybe work with a trainer (one that know something!), and focus on some flexability work. Can you expand on why the stretching is hindering you? It may be loosening up your supporting / stabilizing muscle structure that is under developed relative to your major muscle groups. This is VERY common. With the stabilizing muscles loose and not strong, the major movers can not do their job. Focus on less weight and perfect form, and you'll develop these supporting groups. Also there are specific exercises that target supporting muscle groups, and as you become a more advanced lifter, you need to work on these so you DON'T get hurt. I recently f'd my rotator cuff (actually the nerves that control it, no idea how), and it's killing my shoulder routines. My delts are plenty strong, but I can't stop my scapula from winging out. The pinched nerve caused atrophy in my rotator cuff, so I can't stabilize my shoulder like I need to for many of my shoulder routines.

It pains me to see so many people, especially teenagers and early 20 somethings that come into the gym and haven't had good instruction on what they are doing. I was that person at 14 and 15 yrs old, but was fortunate to move to a new school that had a quality training program before I was too screwed up.

My flexability has always been important to me, as it's prevented me from getting any number of injuries over the years. When I'm good and warm/loose, I can still hit a straddle split. Not bad for 6'-1, 285 . I can still get up to about 5'-5 with a side kick, not sure on the roundhouse. My hammies have always been a little tighter than the rest of my legs.

That said, I spend a lot of time on stretching. I find it helps my lifting, and if I'm good and loose I can lift more. I'm sure that a knowledgeable trainer should be able to work with you on your stretching routine, maybe offer some improvement. It's very hard to help with that without standing there with you. That said, I do hold all of my stretches for well over 30 seconds, some up to 2 minutes. I also vary the intensity of the stretch during that time. On a one minute stretch, I may go as far as possible (w/o pain) for 20 seconds, ease off just a bit for 10, push past where you were at first for 20, then ease off all the way over 10 seconds.
__________________

1999 e46 328i Ti Silver / Black[retired]
2007 e90 335xi Jet Black / Black[retired]
2011 e70 X5 35d Vermillion Red / Cinnamon
2011 e92 M3 LeMans / Fox Red extended
Appreciate 0
      01-05-2008, 04:59 PM   #60
TurboFan
Ski bum
TurboFan's Avatar
94
Rep
6,207
Posts

 
Drives: sideways
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Knee deep in the pow

iTrader: (8)

Quote:
Originally Posted by mantis View Post
damn this thread, made me go to gym... just got back...

altho i havent worked out in a month i was able to bench 195
let us know how you feel tomorrow!
__________________

1999 e46 328i Ti Silver / Black[retired]
2007 e90 335xi Jet Black / Black[retired]
2011 e70 X5 35d Vermillion Red / Cinnamon
2011 e92 M3 LeMans / Fox Red extended
Appreciate 0
      01-05-2008, 05:01 PM   #61
TurboFan
Ski bum
TurboFan's Avatar
94
Rep
6,207
Posts

 
Drives: sideways
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Knee deep in the pow

iTrader: (8)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Taittinger View Post
It definitely gets tougher. I stopped squatting for about ten years for fear of a problematic hamstring and knees. Just started again, staying light, about 225 max now. I recently had to stop deadlifting due to a bum elbow.
Squats, dead lifts and hang cleans are some of my fav exercises, but it's so easy to get hurt with them. I haven't been able to do hang cleans for over 2 years, as my elbow just won't cooperate. That snap to the clavicle just kills it.
__________________

1999 e46 328i Ti Silver / Black[retired]
2007 e90 335xi Jet Black / Black[retired]
2011 e70 X5 35d Vermillion Red / Cinnamon
2011 e92 M3 LeMans / Fox Red extended
Appreciate 0
      01-05-2008, 05:43 PM   #62
xxballinboi786
Captain
xxballinboi786's Avatar
79
Rep
734
Posts

 
Drives: Lamborghini
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: NY

iTrader: (0)

ahh the irony...i would really like to sit here and respond to everyones post but its time for me to go to the gym...lol...found some pretty cool/interesting responses in the last few pages and ill be answering them inna little...by the way, congrats on 195 mantis!
Appreciate 0
      01-05-2008, 05:55 PM   #63
!Xoible
Banned
United_States
555
Rep
46,037
Posts

 
Drives: ....
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: .

iTrader: (4)

Garage List
2008 M3  [3.50]
2007 335i  [4.50]
2008 528i  [4.00]
2006 Infiniti - G35 ...  [4.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by TurboFan View Post
let us know how you feel tomorrow!
i love it when im sore dude.. if im not i feel like i wasted my time or did something wrong
Appreciate 0
      01-05-2008, 05:56 PM   #64
!Xoible
Banned
United_States
555
Rep
46,037
Posts

 
Drives: ....
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: .

iTrader: (4)

Garage List
2008 M3  [3.50]
2007 335i  [4.50]
2008 528i  [4.00]
2006 Infiniti - G35 ...  [4.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by ducati955 View Post
i been lifting since i was 16, now 29, did photoshoots, etc, persoanl training, diets, bla bla, i love it, all natural!

are you cut or big? im having a hard time getting back in shape... i mean round is a shape, but i'd like another one...
Appreciate 0
      01-05-2008, 06:07 PM   #65
ZGirl07
Lieutenant General
ZGirl07's Avatar
United_States
156
Rep
13,335
Posts

 
Drives: '13 Z4 35i
Join Date: May 2007
Location: SI, NY

iTrader: (2)

me... im cutting right now... in six months i hope to be in fitness competitions
__________________
Space Gray ~ Coral Red ~ 20% Tint ~ LUX Angel Eyes ~ Carbon Fiber Stubby
Appreciate 0
      01-05-2008, 06:10 PM   #66
!Xoible
Banned
United_States
555
Rep
46,037
Posts

 
Drives: ....
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: .

iTrader: (4)

Garage List
2008 M3  [3.50]
2007 335i  [4.50]
2008 528i  [4.00]
2006 Infiniti - G35 ...  [4.00]
dude arab chicks dont work out... they only know how to eat
Appreciate 0
Post Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:17 AM.




m3post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST