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      12-22-2007, 05:48 PM   #23
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Man - that is so tempting. I have owned several Bimmers -and first one in the family was my Dad's (back in '79). But, since I was 10 or so I have always loved the 911 - and this is my (hopefully) attainable dream.

So, an M3 would still be a transition to Carrera S ownership. But if the wait is too long, and the pricing is not right - then the kinds of deals you are talking about are definitely causing my mind to wander.

And, I DON'T need the rear seats! We have a 540iT for my wife and a minivan for the dogs; and no kids to tote about - so a coupé is all mine, greedy me, mine! So, not an issue - which leaves me conflicted
What, you let the dogs drive a van?


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      12-22-2007, 05:58 PM   #24
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Seriously though: this would be an apposite Harvard BS case study in how not to release a halo product to the largest single market. Poor showing BMW USA!
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      12-22-2007, 06:00 PM   #25
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What, you let the dogs drive a van?

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Good catch mate - slip of the grammar. Yeah, it's lucky we have some land, that way when they back-up they don't create too much havoc!
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yeah i'm getting real tired of this waiting game... besides more time I have to think the better the skyline is lookin!
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      12-23-2007, 12:30 AM   #27
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yeah i'm getting real tired of this waiting game... besides more time I have to think the better the skyline is lookin!
GT-R?
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      12-23-2007, 09:05 AM   #28
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E's last post is older than 24 hours, I'm afraid he has lost interest completely.


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Ahh, yes. Didn't check this thread and that's what happens when you take a trip to FL.
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I was at a Porsche dealer yesterday. Sat in a CaymanS and a 911S. Very nice. I inquired about the discounts the cars are selling at. He said about $5k under MSRP for the Cayman and $4k for the 911. That's just chatting and asking. I wonder what would happen if one was to negotiate. If it wasn't for the rear seats in the M3...
I've been offered $10k under MSRP for a Cayman S. Still waiting for M3 pricing. The only thing in BMWs favor is that it is winter and I wont be buying anything until spring hits.
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Good catch mate - slip of the grammar. Yeah, it's lucky we have some land, that way when they back-up they don't create too much havoc!
hehe.. i'm in the same situation with 4 cars, no kids and 2 chocolate labs one of my labs actually thinks he is going to drive as he keeps sitting in the drivers seat
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      12-23-2007, 10:19 AM   #31
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Have you guys seen this, from BMW club of America?

http://www.bmwcca.org/node/10399

Supposedly posted somewhere by BMWUSA for 2008 prices. Note M3 coupe is listed in the "low 60s." If true, I don't think this bodes too well for sales considering how skimpy BMW equips their cars. If my version of the car gets me into the mid $70K then I'll just wait and probably go for a GT-R if the car lives up to expectations.

EDC and the dual clutch transmission will probably be close to $5K and you'll have nothing else without spending a bunch more $$.
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Have you guys seen this, from BMW club of America?

http://www.bmwcca.org/node/10399

f my version of the car gets me into the mid $70K then I'll just wait and probably go for a GT-R if the car lives up to expectations.

EDC and the dual clutch transmission will probably be close to $5K and you'll have nothing else without spending a bunch more $$.

Ditto for me. M3 + options cannot be $$$ > GT-R, that doesn't make sense. Had not seen the bmw cca commentary - well, we can only wait and hope that rationality prevails! 997 anyone?
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      12-24-2007, 12:59 AM   #33
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GT-R?
I really wish they had given it the Skyline namesake. How awesome would the GTR look with the signature S K Y L I N E across the back!


They even kept the production naming convention as R35.
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BMW sucks monkey balls..great cars...great product but they are acting like GM used to when they had it all..now with cars like the GTR..RS4,and AMG's ....it's just a car....I don't care how good it is...you can't play with peoples emotions like this.....fuck what the Euro is doing..and screw the excuses...release the car.....I'm in Japan..and tell u what..I went to the Nissan dealer and saw the GTR..it just happen to be a demo show...and man the car looked evil..went to BMW and saw and M3..damn both cars are hot...but damn BMW has been selling the M3 for what 8 months now.....and can't get em in the U.S. but you can get em in MExico and canada..that aint right....
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can't get em in the U.S. but you can get em in MExico and canada..that aint right....
FYI: The M3 is not available in Canada yet.
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FYI: The M3 is not available in Canada yet.
Well maybe I mispoke have to check my source..but the point is it's stupid the car has been on sale most other places and it aint ready yet..and go ahead and carry water for BMW..if you want....this aint the way to indear yourself to your biggest market....and oh yeah Canda sure aint it's biggest market....
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Sorry Mispoke..but I still aint gonna carry water for a company that has no respect for it's customer..and make any excuse you want..fucking car should have been out is Sep.....
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      12-24-2007, 09:57 PM   #38
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I am also loosing patience, although I won't buy a new car until May. The thing is that I don't want to get too excited with the M3 without knowing the price as I don't think I will be paying more than 70K for it, specially if they will be charging a gas-guzzler tax and I can get a nice 335 for MUCH less.

For how much would I be able to get a 45k 335 coupe??? 40k??
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......fucking car should have been out is Sep.....
well, we've enjoyed the m3 here in europe for quite some time now..to bad about the na market
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The news might be getting worse. First BMW CCA says that M3 base will be in the low $60's range and now I see on Road and Track's review of the M3 that they are projecting the base to be around $65K. Neither are definative, but perhaps the base might not be in the high $50s afterall. There's a lot of competition, maybe more than there was for the previous M. I guess we'll see what that does for demand.
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