Besides the e92 M3, what other cars would you consider below $70k?

gbb357 · 12-20-2007, 10:21 PM

Considering that the MSRP would be around $65k-$70k, i'm guessing of course, these would be my other possible choices for myself.

UltimateBMW · 12-20-2007, 10:30 PM

MB C63
Nissan GTR

While the corvette is a great car I personally would never own one. The RS4 is amazing but it's on its way out so if I was into it I would probably tough it out and wait for the 8E chassis version. As for the infiniti... that car is just trying too hard.

mhutchins14 · 12-20-2007, 10:30 PM

I really wished I liked the Corvette more. Don't get me wrong, the performance of the Z06 is breathtaking for $75 large. However, I'm just not "that guy". Having owned a Boxster S before I'm somewhat drawn to the Cayman S, but it needs more power. None of the Audi's interest me nor does the hideous looking IS-F.

For me it's either a Cayman S or the M. And since I'm still waiting.....

JEllis · 12-20-2007, 10:32 PM

C63 AMG

ISF

S5

Modded 335 IE. Dinan, KW, BBS

aerisolphaln · 12-20-2007, 10:41 PM

C63 MB

Cadillac CTS-V (supposed to have M5 beating performance at M3 beating price)

S5 when dual clutch comes out

335 fully optioned w/ BMW 20-spoke rims and DINAN flash

I would love to say Cayman S, but I need a back seat

Dazzler · 12-20-2007, 10:48 PM

LOL if only we paid $70k for them here!!

My theory is BMW makes nothing on the USA cars they sell then reams the rest of the world to cover it!

M3 here in NZ is $125,800 USD before ANY options are applied.

You guys are lucky!

UltimateBMW · 12-20-2007, 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dazzler

LOL if only we paid $70k for them here!!

My theory is BMW makes nothing on the USA cars they sell then reams the rest of the world to cover it!

M3 here in NZ is $125,800 USD before ANY options are applied.

You guys are lucky!

Most of the dealership's cashcows aren't the initial sale of the car, but rather the service and maintenance that then ensues. While this is a separate entity from BMW AG, it's still linked since they have to order parts from the factory.

lucid · 12-20-2007, 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dazzler

LOL if only we paid $70k for them here!!

My theory is BMW makes nothing on the USA cars they sell then reams the rest of the world to cover it!

M3 here in NZ is $125,800 USD before ANY options are applied.

You guys are lucky!

Sorry, these price conversion comparisons don't make much sense, and are getting old. You have to take standards of living into account (who pays for your social security, education and health/child care, etc?). And what is your salary worth in dollars compared to what it was worth 5 years ago?

lucid · 12-20-2007, 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gbb357

Considering that the MSRP would be around $65k-$70k, i'm guessing of course, these would be my other possible choices for myself.

Cayman S, or a 2006 911S.

Dazzler · 12-20-2007, 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lucid

Sorry, these price conversion comparisons don't make much sense, and are getting old. You have to take standards of living into account (who pays for your social security, education and health/child care, etc?). And what is your salary worth in dollars compared to what it was worth 5 years ago?

Sorry but the cost of living between here and the USA is not very different at all it certainly isn't anywhere near 180%! (the approx difference between the m3 here and there)

We dont have govt. healthcare other than accidents and emergencies.

What exactly is your point? The fact is BMW's margins in cars other than the USA have to be considerably higher.

///MArdor · 12-21-2007, 12:24 AM

I am sold on the M3

THE_PRO · 12-21-2007, 01:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dazzler

Sorry but the cost of living between here and the USA is not very different at all it certainly isn't anywhere near 180%! (the approx difference between the m3 here and there)

We dont have govt. healthcare other than accidents and emergencies.

What exactly is your point? The fact is BMW's margins in cars other than the USA have to be considerably higher.

I believe it's what you said and more. You also have to consider supply and demand, they are the largest market after all, they got volume. And our M3s over here in Canada have also been priced higher, plus our dollars worth more now...but I doubt our price here will be cheaper for the new M3.

Oh, and I'm definitely gettin' the ///M3.

mkoesel · 12-21-2007, 02:31 AM

There are other cars I'd consider, but the primary alternative would be a 335i. What other 2-door, four seaters are there? Basically the GTR or G37, A5 or S5. Not much else out there. I suppose there is Mustang, Challenger and Camaro, but would prefer to stay in the entry luxury or above segments.

If I could consider a two seater like the Corvette, Z4 or Cayman S, then I would have been in one long ago and never even considered the M3.

Robert · 12-21-2007, 02:32 AM

GTR

Not Ur Avg 3 · 12-21-2007, 04:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ///MArdor

I am sold on the M3

+1
unless someone handed me one of those cars for the hell of it
its just too convincing
m3 ftw

southlight · 12-21-2007, 05:24 AM

Man, I love that new smiley:

Best regards, south

lucid · 12-21-2007, 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dazzler

What exactly is your point?

Doing a direct conversion between currencies is simplistic and inaccurate if you really are trying to judge the impact of puchasing this car on someone's budget (and calling them lucky). That's the point.

You might or might not be right on the margins. In some countries like Denmark, the car is expensive not because BMW is charging more, but because the government is taxing at an ugly rate.

I know for a fact that college doesn't cost zip over there for instance. You know what it costs here? And again, what is your salary now worth in dollars compared to 5 years ago? Etc.

NavM3 · 12-21-2007, 01:21 PM

1. C63
2. Z06

!Xoible · 12-21-2007, 02:06 PM

it's hard to be paying 70k and not be getting a p-car back... sad

BUT thanks for the GT-R!!!!!!!
GT-R or Z06.. no more, no less....

bulletproof · 12-21-2007, 03:48 PM

S5... Looks beautiful in Meteor Grey with Red Leather!

Voltigeur · 12-21-2007, 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UltimateBMW

MB C63
Nissan GTR

I seriously doubt GT-R will sell < $70K.

Mine would be:

* Cayman S (that chassis and steering, but underpowered)
* used RS4
* used 911
* S5
* 335i and mod the hell out of it

ruff · 12-21-2007, 03:58 PM

Three MX-5 Miatas. One for the track, one as a daily driver, the other for weekends, and the remaining 15k sitting in a IRA Roth.

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UltimateBMW Brigadier General Drives: MP4 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: South Posts: 3,290 iTrader: (0)	MB C63 Nissan GTR While the corvette is a great car I personally would never own one. The RS4 is amazing but it's on its way out so if I was into it I would probably tough it out and wait for the 8E chassis version. As for the infiniti... that car is just trying too hard. __________________

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mhutchins14 First Lieutenant Drives: Jet Black w/Beige 2008 e92 M3 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Houston, TX, United States Posts: 354 iTrader: (0)	I really wished I liked the Corvette more. Don't get me wrong, the performance of the Z06 is breathtaking for $75 large. However, I'm just not "that guy". Having owned a Boxster S before I'm somewhat drawn to the Cayman S, but it needs more power. None of the Audi's interest me nor does the hideous looking IS-F. For me it's either a Cayman S or the M. And since I'm still waiting..... __________________ HUTCH 2008 BMW e92 M3, Jet Black w/Bamboo 6sp M 2012 Aston Martin V12 Vantage Tungsten w/Chestnut

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JEllis Brigadier General Drives: E36 M3, 997S Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: San Diego Posts: 3,384 iTrader: (1)	C63 AMG ISF S5 Modded 335 IE. Dinan, KW, BBS __________________

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aerisolphaln First Lieutenant Drives: '05 G35 coupe 6MT Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Iowa City, IA Posts: 396 iTrader: (0)	C63 MB Cadillac CTS-V (supposed to have M5 beating performance at M3 beating price) S5 when dual clutch comes out 335 fully optioned w/ BMW 20-spoke rims and DINAN flash I would love to say Cayman S, but I need a back seat __________________ Now:'05 G35 6MT\Laser Red\Beige\Sport\Premium 06/2008: M3, 335+Dinan, or ...

12-20-2007, 10:48 PM	#6
Dazzler Private First Class Drives: E92 M3 Jerez 2007, 1M on order Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: New Zealand Posts: 119 iTrader: (0)	LOL if only we paid $70k for them here!! My theory is BMW makes nothing on the USA cars they sell then reams the rest of the world to cover it! M3 here in NZ is $125,800 USD before ANY options are applied. You guys are lucky!

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///MArdor Private First Class Drives: Jet Black E92 M3 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Dallas, Texas Posts: 147 iTrader: (0)	I am sold on the M3

12-21-2007, 02:31 AM	#13
mkoesel Moderator Drives: IB/PS M-DCT E93 M3 Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Canton, MI Posts: 11,745 iTrader: (1)	There are other cars I'd consider, but the primary alternative would be a 335i. What other 2-door, four seaters are there? Basically the GTR or G37, A5 or S5. Not much else out there. I suppose there is Mustang, Challenger and Camaro, but would prefer to stay in the entry luxury or above segments. If I could consider a two seater like the Corvette, Z4 or Cayman S, then I would have been in one long ago and never even considered the M3. __________________ 2008 Interlagos Blue E93 M3 - M-DCT 2011 Salsa Red Jetta TDI Sportwagen - DSG

12-21-2007, 02:32 AM	#14
Robert Major General Drives: 135i, current is350 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Socal Posts: 6,765 iTrader: (1)	GTR

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southlight Moderator / European Editor Drives: BMW Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 6,634 iTrader: (0)	Man, I love that new smiley: Best regards, south

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NavM3 M-Sport Drives: 2011 GT-R Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: DC area Posts: 171 iTrader: (0)	1. C63 2. Z06

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!Xoible Banned Drives: .... Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: . Posts: 46,045 iTrader: (4) Garage List 2008 M3 [3.50] 2007 335i [4.50] 2008 528i [4.00] 2006 Infiniti - G35 ... [4.00]	it's hard to be paying 70k and not be getting a p-car back... sad BUT thanks for the GT-R!!!!!!! GT-R or Z06.. no more, no less....

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bulletproof Private Drives: 09 E92 M3 Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 90 iTrader: (0)	S5... Looks beautiful in Meteor Grey with Red Leather!

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