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      12-10-2007, 09:18 PM   #23
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I am really starting to dout we will see pricing this year. I think possibly late January or maybe early Feb.
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      12-10-2007, 09:53 PM   #24
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got a better one than that..how about release the fucking car....sound good to u guys....NA are a bunch of hooogies..ass holes
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      12-10-2007, 10:06 PM   #25
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got a better one than that..how about release the fing car....sound good to u guys....NA are a bunch of hooogies..a$$ holes
I know that the price will not be released until after January 2008, but this post is very entertaining!
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      12-10-2007, 10:29 PM   #26
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bernanke better do something smart.
I reckon they'll cut 25 bps - if they do 50 the market will celebrate for a short period then think, "oh shit, we have to worry about a recession.."

And there is the USD rein in... and labor market hasn't tanked yet.
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      12-10-2007, 10:32 PM   #27
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I doubt that Fed's decision will change BMW's thinking on price. Fed meets often, and they mess with the interest rates all the time, so I don't see how a company can base product pricing on a monthly decison associated with a variable that fluctuates.
I agree - but they will have a view on the EUR/USD w/ the associated likely 'rate spread / level of hedging that BMW AG will place over the next 12 - 24m.
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      12-11-2007, 02:31 AM   #28
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i love how instead of arguing and debating what the MSRP is going to be now we are debating what day and month the price is going to be released. hahah our lives are certainly desperate
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      12-11-2007, 09:33 AM   #29
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i love how instead of arguing and debating what the MSRP is going to be now we are debating what day and month the price is going to be released. hahah our lives are certainly desperate
I have to laugh at myself .. and agree. It's sad.
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      12-11-2007, 09:34 AM   #30
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we have to do something to keep ourselves occupied. God forbid we think about anything else..
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      12-11-2007, 09:40 AM   #31
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we have to do something to keep ourselves occupied. God forbid we think about anything else..
(In advance, this is only a joke)

This just in.... BMW is going against their normal tendencies, and is going to have some fun with us. At the end of the Top Gear TV episode featuring the M3, C63, and RS4 on 12/16/07, Tiff's going to open the glove box of the M3 and the price will be on an 8-1/2 x 11 piece of paper ..... $57,990.
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      12-11-2007, 09:45 AM   #32
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hell, it wouldn't shock me if they made us place our orders, and went ahead and wrote an unsigned check to themselves and left it in the car for us
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      12-11-2007, 03:10 PM   #33
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Top Gear is an English show, (so wouldn't be talking in dollars) and Tiff is not on it (he is on fifth gear). i know it was only a joke...but just to clear that up.
Thanks, I could be an ugly American and say all the English programs sound the same to me, but actually I'm just clueless.

The federal funds rate now stands at 4.25 percent. The central bank also cut its discount rate, which is what banks pay to borrow directly from the Fed, by a quarter-point to 4.75 percent on Tuesday

Not a good day to release M3 pricing.
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      12-11-2007, 04:07 PM   #34
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I like how the market went Tango Uniform after the announcement.
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      12-11-2007, 04:25 PM   #35
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They are not giving prices, because they will be giving them away. That's the magic of the US.
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      12-11-2007, 05:02 PM   #36
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I like how the market went Tango Uniform after the announcement.
I haven't heard JACK SQUAT from my MIL rep since that pricing sheet...not even returning my emails anymore.

Epacy, when did you get permission to use military lingo? Or are you still on that G-14 classified assignment shhhhhhh (I won't tell)

Ya, the pricing thing sucks. Someone please just hit me in the head with a 2x4 now
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      12-11-2007, 05:54 PM   #37
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Recession pricing. $10,000 off M3. $20,000 off Z4M.

I'm putting it out there: the M3 price will be the dow jones industrial average * 4. Somewhere around $49k.
Right, cheaper than the MSRP for the outdated M Coupe with the old engine.

What's up with our bet? Why haven't you identified a third party? Epacy seems to be willing to do it.
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      12-11-2007, 06:34 PM   #38
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MSRP means about as much on the M coupe as it does on the Chevy Suburban. The factory-to-dealer incentive on it is $7500. People are driving off the lot for $44k out the door on them. Look at the Zpost threads.
That's all very possible, but we are discussing the MSRP of the E92 M3 here, not how much you might be able to buy it for once the hype dies down.
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      12-11-2007, 10:27 PM   #39
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Recession pricing. $10,000 off M3. $20,000 off Z4M.

I'm putting it out there: the M3 price will be the dow jones industrial average * 4. Somewhere around $49k.
Verry funny! I would expect the price to be much lower based on what is happening here in Utah. Maybe, $39,000 for base and $54,000 fully loaded!
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      12-11-2007, 11:07 PM   #40
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I like how the market went Tango Uniform after the announcement.
I don't expect that to be the end of heightened volatility. It's relevant to the discussion as in 1H 2008 add in more negative housing wealth effects, a slower economy, more lay-offs in financial services and some stock downside for 'good' measure then this is a tougher pricing environment for high-end cars like the M3.

You can bet BMW AG would take '99 to launch a model like this over '08 (throwing in the USD as well...)
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      12-11-2007, 11:28 PM   #41
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They're not going to release the price until the 1st quarter of 08'.
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      12-12-2007, 08:50 AM   #42
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...which would be a solid month after orders are in and another month before the cars arrive; great. It pisses me off that they want everyone to place their orders without knowing price. Has any major car company done this in the past? What's worse (I'm guilty of it too) is that we're playing into it.
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      12-12-2007, 05:37 PM   #43
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BMW USA lurkers unite and pay heed to pricing angst

BMW USA Lurkers: please read all these "WTF is the price?" threads!!
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I guess waiting for the price is splitting up my anticipation. Sucks to think about it like this but it gives me something to do instead of worrying how far out US delivery is. I guess I am not too worried about price now with all the clues that MSRP won't be as ridiculous as previously speculated (hoping-never know).
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