Breaking News -M3 Base Price/Options Info -"Sourced Est." - Page 8

Technic · 12-04-2007, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Davo2003

Can you tell me how you arrived at this conclusion? I am interested in any more info on this subject. Thanks.

HiFi:

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AM/FM stereo/CD audio system with 10 speakers, Radio Data System (RDS), Auto-Store, MP3 capability and 3-channel FM diversity antenna system

Top HiFi:

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Logic7 Surround Sound anti-theft AM/FM stereo CD/MP3 player audio system with 13 upgraded speakers (including 2 subwoofers), Digital Sound Processing (DSP), Radio Data System (RDS), Auto-Store and 3-channel FM diversity antenna; displays MP3 song title and artist

Enhanced Premium Audio (Individual):

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... complete with 16 speakers and a high-end amplifier.

The M3 will not have the Top HiFi system, either standard or optional. The jump is from 10 speakers, analog amp, to 16 speakers, digital amp... expect something around $1900 ($1200 + $700) for this option.

Technic · 12-04-2007, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Epacy

Verified with my dealer as well, the premium sound if the individual sound.
In the brochure he linked to, it states the 10-speaker system is standard. Same thing as in the M5 and the upgrade there is $700. It's obviously reasonable to expect the same dollar amount for the M3.

The M5 standard audio system is Logic7...

Epacy · 12-04-2007, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Technic

The M5 standard audio system is Logic7...

Yup.

According to this brochure:

http://www.bmwusa.com/NR/rdonlyres/0...08M52007M6.pdf

Epacy · 12-04-2007, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Technic

The M3 will not have the Top HiFi system, either standard or optional. The jump is from 10 speakers, analog amp, to 16 speakers, digital amp... expect something around $1900 ($1200 + $700) for this option.

That might be accurate. Two level jump it looks like. Not cool. Wonder why they wouldn't make Logic7 standard on the M3? Then that makes you have to really fork over for anything above the cheesy base stereo. Unless they aren't planning on charging a crazy amount for the Premium?

Keto · 12-05-2007, 03:18 AM

Still bugs me that Logic7 is standard on the 335 but not the M3 according to the current brochure.

Either way, "premium" formeplz.

Technic · 12-05-2007, 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Keto

Still bugs me that Logic7 is standard on the 335 but not the M3 according to the current brochure.

Either way, "premium" formeplz.

It was the same "nickel and dime" in the E46 M3 and the Harman Kardon system...

Epacy · 12-05-2007, 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Keto

Still bugs me that Logic7 is standard on the 335 but not the M3 according to the current brochure.

Either way, "premium" formeplz.

Yes, that is total HS! So obvious.

Davo2003 · 12-05-2007, 01:40 PM

Technic

Arghhh, my badd...I wasn't talking about that, I was talking about this.

"Good news: for upgrading with aftermarket, the HiFi is perfect."

How did you arrive at this conclusion and can you provide details.
The base 10 speaker system also has two subs...
Thanks.

Davo2003 · 12-05-2007, 01:42 PM

And did you mean swapping the system out? Swapping amps and speakers or what? Have an idea on the cost range and who can perform this upgrade without tearing the car up?

Technic · 12-05-2007, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Davo2003

And did you mean swapping the system out? Swapping amps and speakers or what? Have an idea on the cost range and who can perform this upgrade without tearing the car up?

The good thing about the HiFi system is that regardless of having iDrive or not the OEM amp inputs are analog, therefore that amp can be easily replaced with aftermarket.

In the Top HiFi/Enhanced the amp inputs are digital, thus so far the only way of adding aftermarket amps is to tap at the amps analog outputs, sum channels and "de-EQ" the heavy processed sound into a flat, full signal before adding aftermarket amps. That "de-EQ" would require a professional with an RTA or if you are confident and skilled enough, this can be done DYI and automatically with the the JL Audio Cleansweep, the Alpine Imprint processor or the RF 3SIXTY.2 just before the aftermarket amp(s).

There is no aftermarket digital interface right now that can get the unprocessed signal before reaching the amp.

Other than this, the OEM speakers -all- are no problem replacing.

So my advice is to not get the Enhanced Audio if you are planning to upgrade the OEM audio deeper than just adding a sub in the trunk anyways. It will be not only a waste of money, but it will cost you more money to upgrade from that platform. At least that's what I'm doing...

NavNurs · 12-05-2007, 02:53 PM

Seriously, do you think adding a sub to the trunk is an "upgrade" to the indivudal audio?

If so, you better make sure it finds the natural frequency of the trunk lid to add to that high-end sound!

Technic · 12-05-2007, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by NavNurs

Seriously, do you think adding a sub to the trunk is an "upgrade" to the indivudal audio?

If so, you better make sure it finds the natural frequency of the trunk lid to add to that high-end sound!

With all due respect, I see neither the amusement or your point. Adding subs in the trunk is common in all type of vehicles, be low end or high end.

MrHarris · 12-06-2007, 05:56 AM

lol

devo · 12-06-2007, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Technic

With all due respect, I see neither the amusement or your point. Adding subs in the trunk is common in all type of vehicles, be low end or high end.

Whether common or not, doesn't mean that it's best for sound quality nor does it mean that it's not considered somewhat tacky.

To each his own, but I'm rather tired of the pimp my ride bass amplifiers.

Keto · 12-06-2007, 01:12 PM

There's a difference between aiming for high SPL bass and quality bass. Generally, manufacturer sound systems have neither. I don't want my "speakerbox to rattle like aluminum cans in a bag," I want clean, tight, accurate bass at a good volume relative to the rest of the sound. I replaced all the drivers and added a subwoofer/amp to my E46. What a PITA, cutting all the wires, etc. took all day and I was a master at breaking those little door clamp/peg gizmos. I don't want to do it again, but if I have to add a subwoofer, so be it.

Technic · 12-06-2007, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by devo

Whether common or not, doesn't mean that it's best for sound quality nor does it mean that it's not considered somewhat tacky.

To each his own, but I'm rather tired of the pimp my ride bass amplifiers.

Tacky like this...

... or this:

At the end of the day, is what you want that counts not somebody else opinion. However, there's a big difference in what is tacky and what is simply not.

Big Windy · 12-06-2007, 02:58 PM

i'll take the setup in pic #1. that looks HAWT!

ChitownM3 · 12-06-2007, 03:00 PM

Wasn't this a thread about the price of the M3???

Big Windy · 12-06-2007, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ChitownM3

Wasn't this a thread about the price of the M3???

the individual audio "de-railment" reminds me of a similar situation in a DCT/MT conversation somewhere else on this forum...hey Chi, care to elaborate?

bobr2001 · 12-06-2007, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ChitownM3

Wasn't this a thread about the price of the M3???

Yeah! WTF is up with this crap!

ChitownM3 · 12-06-2007, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by bobr2001

Yeah! WTF is up with this crap!

I don't know, but I'm sick of hearing about people's personal preference when it comes to subs in a trunk.

Big Windy · 12-06-2007, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ChitownM3

I don't know, but I'm sick of hearing about people's personal preference when it comes to subs in a trunk.

the same could be said about people's personal preference on DCT...

12-05-2007, 01:40 PM	#162
Davo2003 Captain Drives: 2008 M3 Coupe Jerez and loaded Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 652 iTrader: (0)	Technic Arghhh, my badd...I wasn't talking about that, I was talking about this. "Good news: for upgrading with aftermarket, the HiFi is perfect." How did you arrive at this conclusion and can you provide details. The base 10 speaker system also has two subs... Thanks. __________________ Crying is for babies, little girls, men who have just had their ears ripped off, and men who have toasted MDCT's due to service errors.

12-05-2007, 01:42 PM	#163
Davo2003 Captain Drives: 2008 M3 Coupe Jerez and loaded Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 652 iTrader: (0)	And did you mean swapping the system out? Swapping amps and speakers or what? Have an idea on the cost range and who can perform this upgrade without tearing the car up? __________________ Crying is for babies, little girls, men who have just had their ears ripped off, and men who have toasted MDCT's due to service errors.

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12-05-2007, 03:18 AM	#159
Keto Major Drives: 550i M-sport AW Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: N'awlins Posts: 1,089 iTrader: (1)	Still bugs me that Logic7 is standard on the 335 but not the M3 according to the current brochure. Either way, "premium" formeplz.

12-05-2007, 02:53 PM	#165
NavNurs First Lieutenant Drives: E92 / S2000 beater Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: San Diego Posts: 308 iTrader: (0)	Seriously, do you think adding a sub to the trunk is an "upgrade" to the indivudal audio? If so, you better make sure it finds the natural frequency of the trunk lid to add to that high-end sound!

12-06-2007, 05:56 AM	#167
MrHarris yodog Drives: '86 Corolla Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Diamond Bar, Ca Posts: 5,032 iTrader: (5) Garage List 2009 BMW [5.00]	lol

12-06-2007, 01:12 PM	#169
Keto Major Drives: 550i M-sport AW Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: N'awlins Posts: 1,089 iTrader: (1)	There's a difference between aiming for high SPL bass and quality bass. Generally, manufacturer sound systems have neither. I don't want my "speakerbox to rattle like aluminum cans in a bag," I want clean, tight, accurate bass at a good volume relative to the rest of the sound. I replaced all the drivers and added a subwoofer/amp to my E46. What a PITA, cutting all the wires, etc. took all day and I was a master at breaking those little door clamp/peg gizmos. I don't want to do it again, but if I have to add a subwoofer, so be it.

12-06-2007, 02:58 PM	#171
Big Windy Major General Drives: audi s4 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: seatac, wa Posts: 5,124 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2009 E92 M3 [4.50] 2000 Saleen S281 Su ... [0.00]	i'll take the setup in pic #1. that looks HAWT!

12-06-2007, 03:00 PM	#172
ChitownM3 Lieutenant Drives: 2001 SS Camaro Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Burbs of Chicago Posts: 489 iTrader: (0)	Wasn't this a thread about the price of the M3???