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Piping for a front mount is more challenging with the big Vortech taking up a lot of space in the engine bay. The smaller Rotrex is easier to fit with intercooler piping. Both methods work and one is not universally better than the other. It is more a packaging issue. BMW, for example, used air to air on the turbo inline 6 motors, but uses air to water on the turbo V8 models. Most if not all factory positive displacement superchargers use air to water but that is also a packaging issue to conveniently fit the cooler between the supercharger and the motor. There are very few factory centrifugal superchargers, but like a turbo, there is more flexibility in mounting so either form of intercooling could be used depending on space for piping.
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09-07-2014, 12:13 PM | #423 |
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You must be confused. I don't blame you though, you guys drive on the wrong side of the road.
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09-07-2014, 02:35 PM | #424 | |
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Anything 600bhp and over will cause the problem. I also met a few guys at the Nurburgring who were running G power and ESS chargers complaining of the same issue. Don't get me wrong this is not an issue with the chargers themselves but the gearbox not being set up to handle the torque. I had 2 different chargers on my M3 and both did the same. I searched all over for someone who could map the gearbox but ended up with nothing. Even visited Manhart Racing in Germany and they could not do it either. I now drive a GTR which has been tuned to a stage 4 and even they have the same issue but the tuners know how to deal with it. It got so frustrating with the M3 that I ended up selling it for a GTR. I absolutely loved my M3 but enough was enough. |
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09-07-2014, 02:37 PM | #425 |
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nothing wrong with running many of the stage 1 or 2 kits available with stock DCT. We have a local with 80k, 60k supercharged miles and zero issues. Don't mislead people. Research... Don't talk out of your arse!
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Like I said... Stage one kits are completely safe. Many threads with useful information regarding this. Also the stock 6mt clutch can handle a good bit of power
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Yes there may be some stage 1 kits which are fine but they don't have enough power to cause the issue. Also.. no need to be a keyboard warrior and be rude. |
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09-07-2014, 05:07 PM | #430 | |
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If you think a stage 1 supercharger would cause issues to the DCT, you should really search and do some homework.
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09-07-2014, 05:15 PM | #431 | |
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Also if you read my post properly then you would see that I agreed with you on the stage 1. Now that is clear ... I can only hope you understand that I was talking from personal experience and the personal experience of many others that I have met and know that we're running 600bhp plus charger kits. |
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Read this one . Complete BS! I'm finished.
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My DCT is fine. The car drives EXACTLY like it did the day I picked it up from MRF engineering with 800 miles on the ODO with the supercharger installed. And how about DLSJ5? Makes 700 RWHP with the built motor ESS Stage 3 system and runs the STOCK DCT transmission. He races his car with no issues with the stock DCT at all.
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ESS also has a DVT tune specific for their 650 kits as well.
Which DCT tune were you running? Stock euro DCT? Did you go to the GTS tune by any chance? |
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It may be that ESS have found the right software to fix the issue which is great and I will glady hold my hands up. But I test drove a friends stage 2 ESS and his had the same issue although this was 2 years back. |
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And what about all the ESS 600+ kits with stock transmissions working perfectly? You have had a problem but that doesn't mean other people have had problems. Stop making an issue out of something that doesn't exist.
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I have nothing to lose nor gain by warning forum members of possible issues as I don't own an M3 anymore. |
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Let me remind you that you said all of this:
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I track my car and there are plenty of other S/C M3s making more than 600 HP that track all the time in SoCal with ZERO issues.
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