BMW M3 Forum (E90 E92)

BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read


Go Back   M3Post - BMW M3 Forum > M3 (E90 / E92 / E93) > New and Preowned M3 Pricing, Ordering, Tracking / European Delivery / Dealer Reviews
 
PYSPEED
Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      10-31-2007, 11:36 PM   #67
Hans Delbruck
BMW & MB - friends in my garage
 
Hans Delbruck's Avatar
 
Drives: C63, 135i, 1959 BUICK
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Huntington Beach, CA

Posts: 1,285
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by swamp2 View Post
You should know better. The markups may be higher sometimes and lower other times but in our market (So. Cal.) a new M will ALWAYS command a mark up for suckers who walk on to the lot and want the car NOW. I bet the new M3's will ocassionally sell for $10k over. Sure it won't last long but it will happen, mark my words. Heck E46 M3s went regularly for $5k over and sometimes as much as $15k over.
Of course they will mark them up, but yes, it won't last more than a few months and I don't think there will be many takers..... at MSRP, yes, people will buy. But even $5000 over, no. This is not 2001. I believe that was a unique time. Did people pay a markup for the E36 M3? Markups were a byproduct of IPO money and the NASDAQ bubble. There were many buyers competing for a limited number of cars, and they had unlimited funds.

This is an M3, not a GT3 RS!
Hans Delbruck is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      10-31-2007, 11:51 PM   #68
swamp2
Lieutenant General
 
swamp2's Avatar
 
Drives: E92 M3
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: San Diego, CA USA

Posts: 10,200
iTrader: (1)

Still disagree

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hans Delbruck View Post
Of course they will mark them up, but yes, it won't last more than a few months and I don't think there will be many takers..... at MSRP, yes, people will buy. But even $5000 over, no. This is not 2001. I believe that was a unique time. Did people pay a markup for the E36 M3? Markups were a byproduct of IPO money and the NASDAQ bubble. There were many buyers competing for a limited number of cars, and they had unlimited funds.

This is an M3, not a GT3 RS!
Although I agree with your opening statement my agreement ends there.

The state of the market at that time may have contributed to this effect. However, wouldn't you agree that in most metro areas there are plenty of folks with plenty of money to burn on cars, 2001 or 2008? There is always the folks who are more badge conscious, have lots of $ and too little time to plan ahead with research or deposits. I'd be willing to be the new M goes for $10k over somewhat commonly. Lastly isn't your closing sentence just a slight exaggeration, "unlimited funds"?
swamp2 is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      11-01-2007, 06:23 PM   #69
Hans Delbruck
BMW & MB - friends in my garage
 
Hans Delbruck's Avatar
 
Drives: C63, 135i, 1959 BUICK
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Huntington Beach, CA

Posts: 1,285
iTrader: (0)

It's certainly a matter of opinion, but I think there are more choices in the same price range this time around, and that will affect demand.
Hans Delbruck is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      11-01-2007, 07:08 PM   #70
Sedan_Clan
Banned
 
Drives: '14 335i(prev.IB,AW M3's & X5)
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: On 2 wheels clipping an apex!

Posts: 10,923
iTrader: (25)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hans Delbruck View Post
It's certainly a matter of opinion, but I think there are more choices in the same price range this time around, and that will affect demand.
The same choices that were available the last time around.
Sedan_Clan is offline   Brazil
0
Reply With Quote
      11-02-2007, 12:09 AM   #71
Hans Delbruck
BMW & MB - friends in my garage
 
Hans Delbruck's Avatar
 
Drives: C63, 135i, 1959 BUICK
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Huntington Beach, CA

Posts: 1,285
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan View Post
The same choices that were available the last time around.

I guess those choices just look more attractive to me now (in comparison)....

I have also considered that an M5 can be had with a considerable discount, whereas the M3 with decent options will go for full MSRP and be high 60's... putting it 10-15 away from an M5...
Hans Delbruck is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      11-02-2007, 11:36 AM   #72
Sedan_Clan
Banned
 
Drives: '14 335i(prev.IB,AW M3's & X5)
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: On 2 wheels clipping an apex!

Posts: 10,923
iTrader: (25)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hans Delbruck View Post
I guess those choices just look more attractive to me now (in comparison)....

I have also considered that an M5 can be had with a considerable discount, whereas the M3 with decent options will go for full MSRP and be high 60's... putting it 10-15 away from an M5...
+1 to the former. That is probably the reality. The competition has gotten better.

As to the latter, some ///M5's can be had at a discount, but most are still well above the ///M3's cost. I did see an 05 ///M5 at Riverside BMW about two months ago that was priced in the mid-40k range. It was IB, SMG, etc. Nice car too!
Sedan_Clan is offline   Brazil
0
Reply With Quote
      11-03-2007, 07:14 PM   #73
911 Now
Private First Class
 
Drives: 08 E92 m3
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Tampa

Posts: 125
iTrader: (0)

Dealer called today. (Tampa,FL) I'm going in for spec's on monday but no pricing info yet. It's about time. Anyone want to buy a pristine 02 911 ?
911 Now is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      11-05-2007, 12:23 AM   #74
Hans Delbruck
BMW & MB - friends in my garage
 
Hans Delbruck's Avatar
 
Drives: C63, 135i, 1959 BUICK
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Huntington Beach, CA

Posts: 1,285
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan View Post
I did see an 05 ///M5 at Riverside BMW about two months ago that was priced in the mid-40k range. It was IB, SMG, etc. Nice car too!
Hmm.. You mean 05 ///M3? The E60 M5's came out in '06....

BTW McKenna ran an ad in the LA Times yesterday... $10,000 off MSRP for a 2008 M5. I trolled the lot at Shelly and saw about 6 of them sitting there.
Hans Delbruck is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      11-05-2007, 07:28 AM   #75
Epacy
Reincarnated
 
Epacy's Avatar
 
Drives: 02 Maxima SE
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: IL

Posts: 4,227
iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2008 M3  [0.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hans Delbruck View Post
BTW McKenna ran an ad in the LA Times yesterday... $10,000 off MSRP for a 2008 M5. I trolled the lot at Shelly and saw about 6 of them sitting there.
Whoa!
Lets hope BMW lives and learns.
__________________
Epacy is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      11-05-2007, 02:54 PM   #76
SS32
Major
 
SS32's Avatar
 
Drives: 2008 M3
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Raleigh, NC

Posts: 1,431
iTrader: (0)

Did BMW ever fix the DSC problem with the 6 speed M5s?
SS32 is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
Post Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:46 AM.




m3post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST