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      06-23-2014, 11:17 PM   #441
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It doesn't matter who is running them on their cars, money doesn't buy intelligence. Many of those people may not participate in forums or know about their sordid past.
Have you seen the quality of the wheels on this thread? Have you read the stories? Have you seen how these guys handled the entire situation with the lies, fake TUV paperwork, tapdancing shenanigans and other random acts? They are deceptive. I tell everyone to NOT buy ADV wheels because of this history. They are good salesmen; this is why their wheels (Which are really nice looking) continue to appear on all these cars.
Welcome to two years ago...should I find the HRE wheels crack incident from years ago and start a drama based on that? LOL

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ADV has really tapped the rich folks who really know nothing about wheels.
More money than brains... and yes, I could easily afford a set or two of ADV's, but why the hell would I do that??
Yeah, looks like you're the smartest person in the world. And people that work hard to be successful enough to be able to afford exotic cars are all dumb and certainly don't have brain, including me :P
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Welcome to two years ago...should I find the HRE wheels crack incident from years ago and start a drama based on that? LOL


Yeah, looks like you're the smartest person in the world. And people that work hard to be successful enough to be able to afford exotic cars are all dumb and certainly don't have brain, including me :P
Sigh... The difference is the way HRE handled the situation. Period. And I never called rich people dumb. I merely stated that having money doesn't necessarily make you intelligent. Kudos to you for working hard and making money. But I'm not here to pick a fight with any one individual, just to make sure people know about ADV and their shady methods. Word of mouth goes far. Enjoy your wheels... I wish you and your passengers luck.

Oh, and it should say "don't have a brain, including me :P"
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Welcome to the new America, it all started with Bill Clinton lying to the entire world on television about getting his crank pulled. The problem is nobody cares that he lied about it. Same as ADV1, I think the wheels look good but if you lie to me about the certification I just dont want to do business.
Makes you wonder how many of these so called "Rich" people do business through lie, cheat and steal just to get to that status.
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Thanks! I'm going to do some real photoshoots when the car is done 100%
My ADV.1 wheels look sick (and super light too)








Can VMR wheels make 20x12 weighing only 21.4 lbs for $1399/set? LOL
Let me be the first to say your car looks freaken gorgeous. I've been a fan of all your cars.

In regards to the wheels, you could get a set of fully custom wheels made by BC Forged for well under $5000.


Also with no TUV certificate if that's the kind of things that matter to you. Just because that F430 owner is running BC Forged doesn't mean I'm going to automatically trust them too (I actually almost bought brand new BC Forged before I went with a used set of HRE's that I couldn't turn down).

I don't know about ADV1, but HRE has a lifetime warranty on their wheels. When you are spending that much, this was a huge factor for me, not to mention I've never seen nothing but impeccable customer service.

Like I said, you have a gorgeous car. If you are happy with everything, that's really all that matters. But I personally won't be trusting ADV.1 anytime soon after the stunt they pulled before (and not just on this forum either).

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HRE wheel failures?: HRE has experienced wheel failures, particularly on older models from years ago. HRE has been in business for a long time and the strength and quality of our wheels is substantially different today then say in the 90s. Even today we challenge ourselves with our racing efforts and while we have and will continue to win championships, we recognize the possibility of having a potential failure in the future given the nature of pushing the limit in professional motorsport. In fact, a well designed motorsport wheel will eventually have its fatigue life run out of it and fail if it is not retired after its useful life. However, we do NOT expect to have wheel failures on the street. We have a LIFETIME STRUCTURAL WARRANTY for a reason. Our wheels are meant to be lightweight but they should still last the life of your vehicle so if it has our name on it we will take responsibility for it.
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Same as ADV1, I think the wheels look good but if you lie to me about the certification I just dont want to do business.
My point exactly. Even if they've straightened out their manufacturing issues, they STRAIGHT UP LIED about being TUV certified. So people can flash me pics of their cars with ADV1s on them all day long, the fact of the matter is they lied about a serious safety certification so they could convince people their wheels have met a safety standard. That act alone should speak for itself.

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ADV.1 wheels are so gorgeous they almost defy the laws of material physics and engineering. I have never seen spokes so thin and elegant on a 20" rim with such a small area of contact between the wheel outta barrel extending to the hub.

I don't know if these wheels will fail but I can tell you they look darn good.
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More information about ADV1's TUV status:

http://adv1wheels.com/technical/testdata.php
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More information about ADV1's TUV status:

http://adv1wheels.com/technical/testdata.php
So there still is no certification, just like it says. "Certified to manufacture- not certified products"
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ADV.1 wheels are so gorgeous they almost defy the laws of material physics and engineering. I have never seen spokes so thin and elegant on a 20" rim with such a small area of contact between the wheel outta barrel extending to the hub.

I don't know if these wheels will fail but I can tell you they look darn good.
Read the explanation from Jordan (owner of ADV.1 wheels) regarding my wheels.
My wheels were built using the same engineering and FEA analysis as Josh Cartu (race car driver) 458 Speciale ADV.1 wheels.
I had to show ADV.1 my GAWR stamp from my F430 last time for engineering.

BTW have you seen Aventador Dione wheels or the Ferrari F12 TRS wheels? The stock wheels on these cars are similar to mine with thin spokes.
And for sure Avent or F12 weigh a lot more than my F430 3200 lbs.

http://www.adv1wheels.com/blog/the-j...roject-update/

http://www.adv1wheels.com/blog/joshu...ect-completed/

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I see. Who has certified products for a wide range (configurations, styles, etc) of products? I know Advan and Volk do but they don't have nearly the same range of options as ADV1, HRE, etc..

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So there still is no certification, just like it says. "Certified to manufacture- not certified products"
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Read the explanation from Jordan (owner of ADV.1 wheels) regarding my wheels.
My wheels were built using the same engineering and FEA analysis as Josh Cartu (race car driver) 458 Speciale ADV.1 wheels.
I had to show ADV.1 my GAWR stamp from my F430 last time for engineering.

BTW have you seen Aventador Dione wheels or the Ferrari F12 TRS wheels? The stock wheels on these cars are similar to mine with thin spokes.
And for sure Avent or F12 weigh a lot more than my F430 3200 lbs.

http://www.adv1wheels.com/blog/the-j...roject-update/

http://www.adv1wheels.com/blog/joshu...ect-completed/




Read that post from ADV... I don't care either way, but one should know they're all semantics>>> "wheels manufactured to TUV specs", doesn't mean TUV cert at all. They build fashionable wheels, not performance wheels. And their track record speaks volumes.

There is NO set of wheels worth 10k period!!!!!! I don't care if it's BBS/HRE/ ADV whatever! Nothing worth that much... Talk about markup


(disclaimer: My wheels are 17.5 lb Volk Racing wheels)
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But, respectfully, people over spend on fashionable items all the time. Some people are happy with $15 jeans while other people easily shell out $250.

Again I ask, who has certified products for a wide range (configurations, styles, etc) of products? I know Advan and Volk do but they don't have nearly the same range of options as ADV1, HRE, etc..
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Read that post from ADV... I don't care either way, but one should know they're all semantics>>> "wheels manufactured to TUV specs", doesn't mean TUV cert at all. They build fashionable wheels, not performance wheels. And their track record speaks volumes.

There is NO set of wheels worth 10k period!!!!!! I don't care if it's BBS/HRE/ ADV whatever! Nothing worth that much... Talk about markup


(disclaimer: My wheels are 17.5 lb Volk Racing wheels)
lol HRE wheels can get to $10k also.

this thread is just a bunch of people holding onto some errors a company made a couple years ago. if there was something that happened recently, I can understand but years ago is pretty petty especially in it's more infant stages.

BTW your F430 looks great Ronnie.
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lol HRE wheels can get to $10k also.

this thread is just a bunch of people holding onto some errors a company made a couple years ago. if there was something that happened recently, I can understand but years ago is pretty petty especially in it's more infant stages.

BTW your F430 looks great Ronnie.


that's what I said, "no wheels are worth 10k", whether HRE, BBS, ADV etc.
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that's what I said, "no wheels are worth 10k", whether HRE, BBS, ADV etc.
Sorry but yea, there are a lot of wheels that are track or "fashion" that cost near $10k. It's pretty much the luxury tax since higher end cars run it. I gotten used to it now sadly
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Sorry but yea, there are a lot of wheels that are track or "fashion" that cost near $10k. It's pretty much the luxury tax since higher end cars run it. I gotten used to it now sadly

It's dumb that's all. My Volks are just as good if not better (plus lighter) than all those wheels and cost much, much less.
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Not sure if you guys follow Pertplus on Instagram... But he just ordered a set of ADV's for his car. This is the same guy that had a million sets of HRE and vowed to use nothing else. I am not saying anything bad about him so you guys don't take it the wrong way. All I'm saying is he spoke bad about them and is giving them a chance to make right. He said it himself, if they mess up, then lesson learned. But he's giving them a chance.

I know Jordan personally and also had a set on my E46 M3. Many people in this thread have never had any direct dealings with the company, but are quick to jump on the hate bandwagon. They are just going with the masses and saying the same thing. Like any business, there comes ups and downs. Were things dealt with incorrectly in the past. Yes I will agree. But ADV.1 has done what they could to make right and taking things in a different direction. I know it takes a long time to build back your reputation once it was tainted, but it is possible.
what was his IG? I used to follow him but I forgot why I stopped. Just noticed he's banned on here now, wonder why.
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It's dumb that's all. My Volks are just as good if not better (plus lighter) than all those wheels and cost much, much less.
Your Volks are not 20" right?
Why don't you just get a Mitsubishi Lancer Evo 8, put big turbos etc, it's cheap and faster than your BMW?
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Your Volks are not 20" right?
Why don't you just get a Mitsubishi Lancer Evo 8, put big turbos etc, it's cheap and faster than your BMW?
Been there done that. I had a couple Evos that with stock turbos would put bus lengths on your Ferrari. 20" no, I rock 18-19".. ADV makes beautiful looking wheels no doubt, but again no wheel is worth the coin they want... Whether it's BBS, HRE, ADV, etc.
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Been there done that. I had a couple Evos that with stock turbos would put bus lengths on your Ferrari. 20" no, I rock 18-19".. ADV makes beautiful looking wheels no doubt, but again no wheel is worth the coin they want... Whether it's BBS, HRE, ADV, etc.
My previous question to you is actually rhetorical, what I meant is there must be a reason you chose BMW instead of Civic, Evo8, STi. Those Japanese cars can be modded cheaply and be faster than your BMW or my Ferrari.
I don't care about who's the fastest or if you can put train lengths on my Ferrari with your modded Evo that cost 1/5th of the price.

And also, people with $200K+ Ferrari or Lambo for example, will only look at certain brands if they want to get aftermarket wheels, mostly either HRE or ADV1. They for sure won't choose $1399 a set of VMR/ebay wheels.
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Welcome to two years ago...should I find the HRE wheels crack incident from years ago and start a drama based on that? LOL


Yeah, looks like you're the smartest person in the world. And people that work hard to be successful enough to be able to afford exotic cars are all dumb and certainly don't have brain, including me :P
You're words... not mine.
If you took the time to learn about wheels and certification, it maybe a different story, but it's pretty obvious you're more concerned about appearances than structural integrity.

Still waiting on an explaination for the extra holes drilled in the wheels that could not be balanced... or all the claims about being TUV certified??
Small companies like RAC and APEX can make wheels that are JWL/VIA certified, so why can't ADV, which cost 2-4 times more and sells hundreds of wheels can't get JWL certified?? All they have to do is send a wheel to Japan to get tested. If they were JWL/VIA tested in the size I was looking for, I'd even consider them.

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It's dumb that's all. My Volks are just as good if not better (plus lighter) than all those wheels and cost much, much less.
I have both Volks and HREs, G2 from VR, P44SC from HRE. To be honest, the quality of the Volks is no where near HREs. For example, volks have wheel specs on the stickers, Hre wheel specs are engraved onto the wheel..
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