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      10-26-2007, 10:43 PM   #23
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The rumored 3 level trim of the GT-R puts the base price at $55k.
Obviously not gospel. But we don't have that for either side yet.
But I am not debating the base level trim price with coaster. He did say "this car" and in this thread we surely ain't talking about the base GT-R. Are we coaster?...
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      10-26-2007, 11:15 PM   #24
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Also, the 3800lbs is meant to aid in the downforce needed to keep the GTR SUPER STABLE at top speeds.

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      10-26-2007, 11:15 PM   #25
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Very impressive. Especially for a car at this price or expected price.

Although I have order of a new M. I have started testing the waters at Nissan.

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But I am not debating the base level trim price with coaster. He did say "this car" and in this thread we surely ain't talking about the base GT-R. Are we coaster?...
All three trims are supposed to have the same engine. I "hear" the highest trim makes extensive use of CF. However, we cannot say which trim the 7:38 car falls into. If indeed there are differing trim levels.
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Excellent pics. Are those all you could find? What site are these from?

Love the cutaway shot.
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Very impressive. Especially for a car at this price or expected price.

Although I have order of a new M. I have started testing the waters at Nissan.

Jason
Wow, I am doing some more preliminary investigation as well. Amazing pics and technology. But the rumors and mag. quotes/estimates I have been reading on a GT-R forum suggests under $80k USD. Not sure what this means as far as trim levels and which price this is.

coaster: Hear that? Still want to do some betting? I do.
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      10-27-2007, 01:38 AM   #29
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Guys, I LOVE performance cars (M3, C63, IS-F, GTR, Z06, EVO, etc) these pictures are for you guys to comment on.
Wow, that 3/4 view from the rear looks great.
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Somebody asked me why the GTR was not branded Infinity.

Enlighten me.

I know the old one was Nissan.
I know its supposed to be performance, not luxury. but...

Neither seem like convincing reasons.

and $80k for a Nissan seems like bad marketing.
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Excellent pics. Are those all you could find? What site are these from?

Love the cutaway shot.
http://www.autoblog.com/photos/2008-...reveal/454768/
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Supercar.net has the tires for this run listed as slicks. What gives?
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      10-27-2007, 05:42 AM   #33
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Wow, my bad. I am truly shocked by how many of you guys are just finding out about the details released earlier this week in Tokyo. I even considered posting the links Wednesday morning, but I figured we had enough flaming without more GTR threads.

Is anyone considering this car? At low-$70k starting, I think its the bargain of the decade. I wonder if you can even get one? I think the production is much lower than the M3, and probably will have higher markups, and for a longer period than the M3. That said if this car comes in below $70k, it will definitely be added to the list.
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      10-27-2007, 07:00 AM   #34
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The Autoweek I received yesterday has a review of the car at a press-drive at the N-Ring. The article includes a quote by the chief engineer (IIRC) who says depending on the driver and conditions, the cars runs anywhere from a 7:44 to 7:58 on the Nordschleife.
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      10-27-2007, 07:47 AM   #35
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Guys, I LOVE performance cars (M3, C63, IS-F, GTR, Z06, EVO, etc) these pictures are for you guys to comment on.
Thanks for the pics. Looks great from the rear. The back seat does not seem functional...
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Swamp, whether you believe it or not, or it is just a marketing ploy, that statement is in the official press release and I believe that is what he was restating.
I agree with Swamp that it makes no sense from an engineering standpoint. Mostly likely a feeble justification for the reltively high weight considering the size of the car and the amount of plastic used in it.

If this car is indeed in the $70k range it should put pressure on BMW to keep the M3 at $60 or below; except for the name, the GT-r is more impressive than the M3 as a sports machine.
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shot of the car in half!
Where in the heck did thy hide the fuel tank?
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This is a perfect opportunity for the M division to build an M3 GTR or an M6 GTR to directly compete with this one. I certainly will not spend 70 - 80K on a nissan, but I think it looks good and from a performance stand point, this car is amazing.
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      10-27-2007, 11:33 AM   #39
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I love those shots of the car cut in half. Impressive!
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If only I could find that GT-R forum where they flamed people for not believing 7:15, not to mention 7:35. Oh I'd die laughing just lurking. Or, just block quoting text and not adding any of my own.
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All three trims are supposed to have the same engine. I "hear" the highest trim makes extensive use of CF. However, we cannot say which trim the 7:38 car falls into. If indeed there are differing trim levels.
"In Japan, the entry-level GT-R starts at $57,000 while V-spec trim adds $10,000 more. That lighter-weight, 530-horsepower Evo-spec model jumps to $94,000-exceptionally dear for a Nissan-but over $25,000 lower than the 911 Turbo." -Motortrend.

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...ogy_specs.html

It seems like there will be a different version of the base engine putting out 530hp, which might or might not be the one that did the 7:38.

The article has some interesting details about the manufacturing process (they are built on rigs), CF driveshaft, and AWD. I didn't realize the tranmission was mounted in the rear!

And I really like the instrument panel. They kept it to the point, and used a smart startegy to push the details to the medium size nav screen. Way to go Nissan! Much nicer than the M3 layout...
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Coaster and others with an interest in this achievement please have a look at the excellent work by lucid (and a couple minutes from me) to show that this GT-R time is what we call in science an "outlier". I'd be willing to place a bet with anyone that one or more of my 4 hypothesis in this link below are true.

Something is wrong with the GT-R time.

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The 7:38 time was on "cut slicks", according to the Chief Engineer in this article:

http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/news/de...?storyId=17066

But the track had some "semi-wet" areas.

This seems to be the only source reporting "cut-slicks" so it could be a true cut racing slick, could be "DOT" race rubber, or it could be a language translation issue, as the Chief Engineer goes on to explain they weren't interested in race slick times.

Even among cut slicks and street-legal race rubber, you can buy everything form a qualifying tire good for 1 hard lap to an endurance type tire harder than some street legal tires. I don't think we'll ever know exactly which tire everyone uses unless it's an official Sport-auto time where they specify OEM rubber
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