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      03-31-2014, 10:37 PM   #2179
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Haven't hit the S&P 1900 ceiling yet
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      04-01-2014, 12:46 AM   #2180
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What do people think about the latest on the companies that use supercomputers to do "high speed trading"?

Wall Street Journal article about FBI investigation.

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/...73874181722310

Book.

http://blogs.wsj.com/moneybeat/2014/...ket-is-rigged/

I had a bad feeling about the market about 15 years ago, and pulled every dime out. Much of it went into the then new "inflation indexed bonds", which gave me a very decent return. Although not so much lately, as worries about inflation have all but disappeared.

Whether or not you think that was a good move depends on whether or not you think the 16K Dow is real or a bubble. But I know I slept better once I was out.

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      04-01-2014, 06:58 AM   #2181
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Whether or not you think that was a good move depends on whether or not you think the 16K Dow is real or a bubble. But I know I slept better once I was out.
Everyone will always think the market is a bubble. 16k is very real as that is where it is right now Sounds like you are very risk adverse and are content with mild returns in safer investment options. But you missed out on a raging bull market for the last 5 years going...
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      04-01-2014, 06:23 PM   #2182
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Sounds like you are very risk adverse and are content with mild returns in safer investment options. But you missed out on a raging bull market for the last 5 years going...
And before that I missed two crashes. The last of which wiped out 50% of the value in the market in less than a year.

The Dow gained about 42% in the last 15 years. A little over 2.5%/year computed simply, a little under 2.5% compounded. My inflation indexed bonds did better.

I'll concede I'm risk averse, but I have a reason. The retired guy had enough to buy the BMW 1-series. If I invested now maybe I could have a new M. Or I could be driving a beat up Toyota Corolla. I'll take the 128.

OTOH, I did well in the market before I got out. The previous 15 years were strong, relatively uninterrupted growth. If I was a young man today, I'd probably be there now.
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      04-01-2014, 06:47 PM   #2183
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And before that I missed two crashes. The last of which wiped out 50% of the value in the market in less than a year.

The Dow gained about 42% in the last 15 years. A little over 2.5%/year computed simply, a little under 2.5% compounded. My inflation indexed bonds did better.

I'll concede I'm risk averse, but I have a reason. The retired guy had enough to buy the BMW 1-series. If I invested now maybe I could have a new M. Or I could be driving a beat up Toyota Corolla. I'll take the 128.

OTOH, I did well in the market before I got out. The previous 15 years were strong, relatively uninterrupted growth. If I was a young man today, I'd probably be there now.
It's understandable. My dad lived through 2 stock market crashes (2000 and 2008). He rode the bull till about mid 1700 for S&P500 and now he's sitting on a boatload of cash waiting for the market to crash again. He did enter the workforce at the heels of "black monday" (1987) so he started investing at a great time.

He's also kind of close to retirement age (57). The only good thing is that his liquid net worth is high enough such that a conservative 2% withdrawal would cover his annual expenses with a cushion of about 1.5x to 2x not including social security or pension so he can afford to be conservative.

I'll probably play it the same way. I'll play the market long sticking mostly to low or no load index funds but I might be a bit more risk averse when I hit my 50s.
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      04-03-2014, 12:11 PM   #2184
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So practically speaking for the typical investor what disadvantage (if any) is there with buying google's new class C shares?
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      04-03-2014, 02:02 PM   #2185
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I'm itching to get in and have been for a few years now. All these words you guys are saying have got me over here like
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      04-04-2014, 01:50 PM   #2186
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Interesting day today with SPX selling off so hard after making an ATH.
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      04-05-2014, 02:53 AM   #2187
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Interesting day today with SPX selling off so hard after making an ATH.
I wonder if reaching all time highs serves as a psychological trigger that forces people to strongly (re)-evaluate whether or not stocks are overvalued. I know there are a number of "fear and greed" indices that try and put a number to this kind of mentality.
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      04-07-2014, 02:13 PM   #2188
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Any thoughts on ddd? Could be a good buy at 50% off its Jan highs.
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      04-08-2014, 09:55 AM   #2189
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      04-08-2014, 03:43 PM   #2190
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In ddd as of yesterday am... Playing the bounce

3d sector broke down many weeks ago...wouldn't be looking here other than a bounce

Dont think it will see new all time highs anytime soon

We inch closer to the end but we still have some rallies to go before this tired bull run is over
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      04-08-2014, 08:47 PM   #2191
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In ddd as of yesterday am... Playing the bounce

3d sector broke down many weeks ago...wouldn't be looking here other than a bounce

Dont think it will see new all time highs anytime soon

We inch closer to the end but we still have some rallies to go before this tired bull run is over

I'm own some @ 53.22 and may add a bit more tommorow. What's your target price?
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      04-08-2014, 09:44 PM   #2192
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Speaking of the 3D sector, VJET ended down over 13% today.
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      04-09-2014, 11:50 AM   #2193
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Speaking of the 3D sector, VJET ended down over 13% today.
lol I'm short since $28
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      04-10-2014, 05:01 PM   #2194
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I'm own some @ 53.22 and may add a bit more tommorow. What's your target price?

Ok down like hell today I went in pretty big too.
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      04-10-2014, 05:45 PM   #2195
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      04-11-2014, 07:55 AM   #2196
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Speaking of the 3D sector, VJET ended down over 13% today.
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-16% pre-market
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      04-11-2014, 11:13 AM   #2197
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Anyone think DDD hit its bottom this morning at $47? I'm tempted to go long.
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      04-11-2014, 09:14 PM   #2198
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Anyone think DDD hit its bottom this morning at $47? I'm tempted to go long.
It could be the bottom but why risk catching a falling knife when there are other stocks with less risk?
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      04-11-2014, 09:57 PM   #2199
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Anyone think that the market's going to gap down Monday and then we'll get a RYFOR to ATHs?
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      04-11-2014, 10:29 PM   #2200
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Anyone think that the market's going to gap down Monday and then we'll get a RYFOR to ATHs?
IDK, IMPAHO TBID...WWBS ATHs AM
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